* speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 @ Adam Myrow ` Igor Gueths ` Michael Whapples 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. I just wanted to make anybody who uses Slackware, and is planning to upgrade to Slackware 12.2 aware of a nasty conflict between Speakup and the HAL daemon (AKA hald.) After I installed Slackware 12.2, and rebooted, Speakup came up with incredibly slow response times! It took up to 5 seconds to respond to any key press. This is with a Dectalk USB in serial mode, so it emulates a Dectalk Express. Since this did not happen on the install CD, I did some tests, and eventually found out that this didn't happen if I removed the execute bit on /etc/rc.d/rc.hald. This prevents the HAL daemon from starting up at boot time. As long as it isn't running, Speakup will respond normally. So far as I know, only X applications use this daemon to automount CD ROMs and other removable disks when they are inserted. So, as long as you don't run X, this should be OK. Has anybody else ran into this problem? Or, is it a bug specific to Slackware? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 Adam Myrow @ ` Igor Gueths ` Gregory Nowak ` Michael Whapples 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Adam. That seems to be specific to Slackware, since I have run Hald on my DIY-based laptop, and it co-exists with Speakup just fine. On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:27:47PM -0600, Adam Myrow wrote: > Hi. I just wanted to make anybody who uses Slackware, and is planning to > upgrade to Slackware 12.2 aware of a nasty conflict between Speakup and the > HAL daemon (AKA hald.) > > After I installed Slackware 12.2, and rebooted, Speakup came up with > incredibly slow response times! It took up to 5 seconds to respond to any > key press. This is with a Dectalk USB in serial mode, so it emulates a > Dectalk Express. Since this did not happen on the install CD, I did some > tests, and eventually found out that this didn't happen if I removed the > execute bit on /etc/rc.d/rc.hald. This prevents the HAL daemon from > starting up at boot time. As long as it isn't running, Speakup will > respond normally. So far as I know, only X applications use this daemon to > automount CD ROMs and other removable disks when they are inserted. So, as > long as you don't run X, this should be OK. Has anybody else ran into this > problem? Or, is it a bug specific to Slackware? > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > - -- Igor -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBSUXJ9qe2pgKIdGq4AQqhshAAqu/fc0fb5SFU0nbnIEZV4V3no79w2r2V +xxXMpJTuJmigBGiuGQCBPdnp/TIQj24b3aSZdCZRs70gNmXucdBIQcYNORX0GMY +O7UbNAe90xXC3dhdSjK4RYbycOzs9LKkXaS7YIX6n6VqXXwqm6e8uc9rC4G+hz5 imIEoHEsruvUs/6Gj5pcvUQWOd5f87s4wYiMPIlGtwsqQuptFhVPcqTeB2/0z5Og v0uC44E9WCeiAwrymPkHcJEShtDTkimDkdGZrXVBbanFSyahyl8ffmVI/cTf8z4C yUDnu7052NGY8KQ4I3iYtsfDZutLR1SRs8s3zM1Vf/dpde3gis3o6kB8DbwUmlR5 qDHcO4tnmLUFY3FJ/713GMhIhxLJT8mC+jyjxh8ZWTxDXLdpJgbcX8pYZzNBD+So W3w9zQwGb7WsADPrD58ddrytSEIWTMW5UJaGqJRDFqU6KaY10m2/lS8/4GqUTyj9 uh8ioWThykI4Ic4D7JkHlh2rJAjamDjQe5C7Jg93kgYYdRrI304j0+HhjOGWaqym v6bNzGW5sY1sCsq6ZGY6KXxULQ1USs0zY8HJ1UbHKltNkROI7pzx6DHw689Q7nQ6 +S2EXuJOP+cmhcyDjcRwK8atvAHIrLpoWs2Y6JTSqsqF229QR/ziXBp6IBoyPAp7 kjaWfM2KLoo= =ew+y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Igor Gueths @ ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 For what it's worth, running hald together with a bns as the synth, under debian works here just fine. Greg On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:07:34PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote: > Hi Adam. That seems to be specific to Slackware, since I have run Hald on my > DIY-based laptop, and it co-exists with Speakup just fine. - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklF1fIACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyCRyACg153imx9P99oaf7ICJ2AKoDbq VbgAn330sVsFwKxSlunQQuDldP5tVJp4 =JhLj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 Adam Myrow ` Igor Gueths @ ` Michael Whapples ` Adam Myrow ` Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Michael Whapples @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, I am using an apollo synth on my slackware system and notice no such delay. Have you tried it with another synth (eg. software synths)? Is this synth specific? Michael Whapples On 23/12/42 20:59, Adam Myrow wrote: > <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Hi. I > just wanted to make anybody who uses Slackware, and is planning to > upgrade to Slackware 12.2 aware of a nasty conflict between Speakup > and the HAL daemon (AKA hald.) > > After I installed Slackware 12.2, and rebooted, Speakup came up with > incredibly slow response times! It took up to 5 seconds to respond to > any key press. This is with a Dectalk USB in serial mode, so it > emulates a Dectalk Express. Since this did not happen on the install > CD, I did some tests, and eventually found out that this didn't happen > if I removed the execute bit on /etc/rc.d/rc.hald. This prevents the > HAL daemon from starting up at boot time. As long as it isn't > running, Speakup will respond normally. So far as I know, only X > applications use this daemon to automount CD ROMs and other removable > disks when they are inserted. So, as long as you don't run X, this > should be OK. Has anybody else ran into this problem? Or, is it a > bug specific to Slackware? > > </div> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Michael Whapples @ ` Adam Myrow ` Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I don't have any other synthesizers set up, but will give it a try with a software synthesizer and get back. If that works, then I'll know it's specific to the Dectalk Express driver. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Michael Whapples ` Adam Myrow @ ` Adam Myrow ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline 1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I tested with Espeak as my software synthesizer, and espeakup driving it. There were no problems with hald. I then went back to the Dectalk, and the problem came back. Further, stopping hald after the fact didn't help. Even going into single-user mode didn't make Speakup respond normally. Only after disabling the startup script and rebooting did Speakup return to normal. Thus, I wonder if the problem is that hald is doing something on the serial port that the Dectalk isn't liking? I don't have any other serial synthesizers to test with. Also, I noticed that speakupconf doesn't work correctly. The command "speakupconf save" gives an error "cp: omitting directory `.'" Running speakupconf load, returns "cat: write error: Invalid argument." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Adam Myrow @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 08:49:13PM -0600, Adam Myrow wrote: > Also, I noticed that speakupconf doesn't work correctly. The command > "speakupconf save" gives an error "cp: omitting directory `.'" Running > speakupconf load, returns "cat: write error: Invalid argument." Yes, I noticed this too when trying to use the speakupconf in the contrib directory from the git tree. I had a look at the speakupconf file from git, and the one I used to use, but saw no obvious differences, other than the copyright line 2008 by Steve in the newer speakupconf. So, I went back to the speakupconf I used to use. It loads fine, but has a problem with saving. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklHGrYACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyBeugCgpKUML97pr96L064rtr+MVXpj cmgAn3aa0tvfxKuBtBMtPZWn4EunhGbq =hbS9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Adam Myrow ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Zachary Kline ` Gregory Nowak 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, For what it's worth, this problem isn't specific to Slackware. Today, on Debian Lenny Rc 1, I ran into the same issue. I installed Gnome and found that along with the other dependencies it pulled in Hal. Low and behold, rebooting my machine gave me sluggish performance. I, too, am using a Dectalk USB in serial mode, with VirtualBox, for what that's worth. Best, Zack. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Myrow" <myrowa@bellsouth.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:49 PM Subject: Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 >I tested with Espeak as my software synthesizer, and espeakup driving it. >There were no problems with hald. I then went back to the Dectalk, and the >problem came back. Further, stopping hald after the fact didn't help. Even >going into single-user mode didn't make Speakup respond normally. Only >after disabling the startup script and rebooting did Speakup return to >normal. Thus, I wonder if the problem is that hald is doing something on >the serial port that the Dectalk isn't liking? I don't have any other >serial synthesizers to test with. > > Also, I noticed that speakupconf doesn't work correctly. The command > "speakupconf save" gives an error "cp: omitting directory `.'" Running > speakupconf load, returns "cat: write error: Invalid argument." > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Zachary Kline @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:36:54PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: > I, too, am > using a Dectalk USB in serial mode, with VirtualBox, for what that's > worth. Well, I've got gnome, and hal too, running under debian testing in virtualbox, and am not seeing sluggish response, when using the bns as the synth. So, I'd say that whether running under virtualbox, or on actual iron probably doesn't make a difference here, since using the bns on a real box is fine here, in both cases (except for vbox's serial port issues), as I've said before. BTW, speaking of virtualbox, how are you managing to use the dectalk, given vbox's serial port issues? http://vbox.innotek.de/ticket/812 I can use the bns with it in an emergency, if I read line by line literally, but I go right back to software speech whenever I can, until that serial bug is resolved. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklHTdAACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyALaACeO1qAVSG56iIr1Ri8KbD4xiaU drEAmQFGXmUmTBa1tajK0Fp2dOgxO+Rc =NWHq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Zachary Kline ` Garrett Klein ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:42 PM Subject: Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:36:54PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: >> I, too, am >> using a Dectalk USB in serial mode, with VirtualBox, for what that's >> worth. > > Well, I've got gnome, and hal too, running under debian testing in > virtualbox, and am not seeing sluggish response, when using the bns as > the synth. So, I'd say that whether running under virtualbox, or on > actual iron probably doesn't make a difference here, since using the > bns on a real box is fine here, in both cases (except for vbox's > serial port issues), as I've said before. > > BTW, speaking of virtualbox, how are you managing to use the dectalk, > given vbox's serial port issues? > > http://vbox.innotek.de/ticket/812 > Hi Greg, I'm using Virtualbox 2.0.6 under a Windows XP host. I haven't noticed any serial port issues, certainly not as described in the above ticket. (Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that by default the Dectalk USB in serial mode seems to use Xon/Xoff handshaking?) I use a USB-to-serial converter on both my desktop and laptop with the Dectalk this way. VirtualBox doesn't react oddly at all, and the unit just works. I must confess, though, that the intricacies of serial communications are for the most part beyond me. I'm just glad to be able to say that it works for me, though I don't know why. Hope this helps, somehow. Best, Zack. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Zachary Kline @ ` Garrett Klein ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How are you using VirtualBox 2,6? QT4 doesn't read at all with JAWS. Zachary Kline wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" > <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:36:54PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: >>> I, too, am >>> using a Dectalk USB in serial mode, with VirtualBox, for what that's >>> worth. >> >> Well, I've got gnome, and hal too, running under debian testing in >> virtualbox, and am not seeing sluggish response, when using the bns as >> the synth. So, I'd say that whether running under virtualbox, or on >> actual iron probably doesn't make a difference here, since using the >> bns on a real box is fine here, in both cases (except for vbox's >> serial port issues), as I've said before. >> >> BTW, speaking of virtualbox, how are you managing to use the dectalk, >> given vbox's serial port issues? >> >> http://vbox.innotek.de/ticket/812 >> > Hi Greg, > I'm using Virtualbox 2.0.6 under a Windows XP host. I haven't > noticed any serial port issues, certainly not as described in the above > ticket. (Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that by default > the Dectalk USB in serial mode seems to use Xon/Xoff handshaking?) > I use a USB-to-serial converter on both my desktop and laptop with > the Dectalk this way. VirtualBox doesn't react oddly at all, and the > unit just works. I must confess, though, that the intricacies of serial > communications are for the most part beyond me. I'm just glad to be > able to say that it works for me, though I don't know why. > Hope this helps, somehow. > Best, > Zack. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Garrett Klein @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 02:55:24PM -0600, Garrett Klein wrote: > How are you using VirtualBox 2,6? QT4 doesn't read at all with JAWS. Neither does it work with wineyes, nor with nvda, since they upgraded to qt4 in 2.0.2 I think it was. I was wondering that myself. There is good news here though. They released 2.1.0 today, and one of the fixes is the ability to once more use vboxmanage to attach a virtual serial port to a physical one. I haven't had a chance yet to upgrade to 2.1.0, so can't confirm whether that's actually been fixed, or not. Greg - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAklJamMACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyB13wCgzzTV7NQ7zBH1dyiPsCaYJb7A l64AoMuY5zPjNNb1K31gllKlb6A+LgYm =wuIX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Alex Snow ` Zachary Kline 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 2.0.6 is marginally useable. I was able to create a virtual machine using the Gui though I had a lot of trouble navigating. Seems to work better with older versions of Jaws (5.0) for whatever reason. Nice to have vboxmanage working again... On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 02:08:52PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 02:55:24PM -0600, Garrett Klein wrote: > > How are you using VirtualBox 2,6? QT4 doesn't read at all with JAWS. > > Neither does it work with wineyes, nor with nvda, since they upgraded > to qt4 in 2.0.2 I think it was. I was wondering that myself. There is > good news here though. They released 2.1.0 today, and one of the fixes > is the ability to once more use vboxmanage to attach a virtual serial > port to a physical one. I haven't had a chance yet to upgrade to > 2.1.0, so can't confirm whether that's actually been fixed, or not. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAklJamMACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyB13wCgzzTV7NQ7zBH1dyiPsCaYJb7A > l64AoMuY5zPjNNb1K31gllKlb6A+LgYm > =wuIX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Manchmal stehe nachts auf und installier's mir einfach... -- H0arry @ IRC ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Alex Snow @ ` Zachary Kline 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, I've found the GUI useable with Window-Eyes via repeated presses of the Speak Summary hotkey in dialogues. That will sometimes indicate the state of a control where mere tabbing won't. Also, the menu bar itself works pretty well without much help from me. That being said, I do like vboxmanage better myself. It's a very useful interface. Best, Zack. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 > 2.0.6 is marginally useable. I was able to create a virtual machine > using the Gui though I had a lot of trouble navigating. Seems to work > better with older versions of Jaws (5.0) for whatever reason. > Nice to have vboxmanage working again... > On Wed, Dec > 17, 2008 at 02:08:52PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 02:55:24PM -0600, Garrett Klein wrote: >> > How are you using VirtualBox 2,6? QT4 doesn't read at all with JAWS. >> >> Neither does it work with wineyes, nor with nvda, since they upgraded >> to qt4 in 2.0.2 I think it was. I was wondering that myself. There is >> good news here though. They released 2.1.0 today, and one of the fixes >> is the ability to once more use vboxmanage to attach a virtual serial >> port to a physical one. I haven't had a chance yet to upgrade to >> 2.1.0, so can't confirm whether that's actually been fixed, or not. >> >> Greg >> >> >> - -- >> web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org >> gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc >> skype: gregn1 >> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >> >> - -- >> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAklJamMACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyB13wCgzzTV7NQ7zBH1dyiPsCaYJb7A >> l64AoMuY5zPjNNb1K31gllKlb6A+LgYm >> =wuIX >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Manchmal stehe nachts auf und installier's mir einfach... > -- H0arry @ IRC > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Gregory Nowak ` Zachary Kline @ ` Alex Snow ` Zachary Kline 1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Is this with the latest virtualbox? I've tried using 2.0.6 I think it is and I can't even get it to configure a serial port. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:42:24PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 07:36:54PM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: > > I, too, am > > using a Dectalk USB in serial mode, with VirtualBox, for what that's > > worth. > > Well, I've got gnome, and hal too, running under debian testing in > virtualbox, and am not seeing sluggish response, when using the bns as > the synth. So, I'd say that whether running under virtualbox, or on > actual iron probably doesn't make a difference here, since using the > bns on a real box is fine here, in both cases (except for vbox's > serial port issues), as I've said before. > > BTW, speaking of virtualbox, how are you managing to use the dectalk, > given vbox's serial port issues? > > http://vbox.innotek.de/ticket/812 > > I can use the bns with it in an emergency, if I read line by line > literally, but I go right back to software speech whenever I can, > until that serial bug is resolved. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAklHTdAACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyALaACeO1qAVSG56iIr1Ri8KbD4xiaU > drEAmQFGXmUmTBa1tajK0Fp2dOgxO+Rc > =NWHq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Actually, typing random strings in the Finder does the equivalent of filename completion. -- Discussion on file completion vs. the Mac Finder ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Alex Snow @ ` Zachary Kline ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Zachary Kline @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Alex, Yes, this is with Virtualbox 2.0.6. If I may ask, how are you trying to get it to use a serial port? vboxmanage is currently broken in that regard. I used the GUI settings pages to configure mine. It's a little difficult: the QT accessibility library is somewhat lacking. Nevertheless, I got it working. Essentially, you have to go into the VM settings dialogue and use the tab control to get over to the serial ports section. It starts off with a checkbox to decide whether to activate the ports. Actually, this part is quite doable with vboxmanage. If you prefer that, you want a command something like: vboxmanage modifyvm "Vmname" -uart1 0x3f8 4. The only part that requires the GUI is assigning the port to a physical device. Go into that settings panel as above mentioned and you'll eventually find that serial tab. The checkbox and port number are already set, so tab over until you find a series of what are essentially radio buttons. There's one about connecting to a pipe, which you'll recognize because once you select that there's another checkbox which becomes active asking if you want Virtualbox to create the pipe itself. At any rate, you want the other radio button: there's only a box asking for "Port Path" with that one. Just put in the device name, e.g. COM3 in my case, and you should be set. Hope this helps. Best, Zack. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: speakup and hald conflict in Slackware 12.2 ` Zachary Kline @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi, Thanks for the info. I was using VBoxManage to configure my serial devices, which probably explains the problem I was having. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 09:27:45AM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Alex, > Yes, this is with Virtualbox 2.0.6. If I may ask, how are you trying to > get it to use a serial port? vboxmanage is currently broken in that > regard. I used the GUI settings pages to configure mine. It's a little > difficult: the QT accessibility library is somewhat lacking. Nevertheless, > I got it working. > Essentially, you have to go into the VM settings dialogue and use the > tab control to get over to the serial ports section. It starts off with a > checkbox to decide whether to activate the ports. > Actually, this part is quite doable with vboxmanage. If you prefer > that, you want a command something like: > vboxmanage modifyvm "Vmname" -uart1 0x3f8 4. > The only part that requires the GUI is assigning the port to a physical > device. Go into that settings panel as above mentioned and you'll > eventually find that serial tab. The checkbox and port number are already > set, so tab over until you find a series of what are essentially radio > buttons. There's one about connecting to a pipe, which you'll recognize > because once you select that there's another checkbox which becomes active > asking if you want Virtualbox to create the pipe itself. At any rate, you > want the other radio button: there's only a box asking for "Port Path" with > that one. Just put in the device name, e.g. COM3 in my case, and you > should be set. > Hope this helps. > Best, > Zack. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- > The day people think linux would be better served by somebody else (FSF > being the natural alternative), I'll "abdicate". I don't think that > it's something people have to worry about right now - I don't see it > happening in the near future. I enjoy doing linux, even though it does > mean some work, and I haven't gotten any complaints (some almost timid > reminders about a patch I have forgotten or ignored, but nothing > negative so far). > > Don't take the above to mean that I'll stop the day somebody complains: > I'm thick-skinned (Lasu, who is reading this over my shoulder commented > that "thick-HEADED is closer to the truth") enough to take some abuse. > If I weren't, I'd have stopped developing linux the day ast ridiculed me > on c.o.minix. What I mean is just that while linux has been my baby so > far, I don't want to stand in the way if people want to make something > better of it (*). > > Linus > > (*) Hey, maybe I could apply for a saint-hood from the Pope. Does > somebody know what his email-address is? I'm so nice it makes you puke. -- Taken from Linus's reply to someone worried about the future of Linux ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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