Compiling Under Debian

Compiling Under Debian

[Steve Holmes]

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I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
    What you need to look for are packages like libstdc++-dev.  In general, 
there are two packages for a lot of libraries: the ones without dev in the 
name just contain the shared library itself, the dev ones will have headers 
and other things a developer using the library would need.
Hope this helps,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Compiling Under Debian


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> I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Steve,

On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).

So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.

Chuck


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Steve Holmes]

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Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
libstd-6.4.3.  

This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
> sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
> containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
> second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
> parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
> 
> So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
> various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
> missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[John covici]

Try libc6-dev  that should have a lot of those headers, but you may
specific ones for espeak.

on Friday 10/17/2008 Chuck Hallenbeck(chuckh@ftml.net) wrote
 > Steve,
 > 
 > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
 > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
 > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
 > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
 > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
 > 
 > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
 > various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
 > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
 > 
 > Chuck
 > 
 > 
 > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
 > > Hash: RIPEMD160
 > > 
 > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
 > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
 > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
 > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
 > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
 > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
 > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
 > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
 > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
 > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Try these:

deb http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free



On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 02:42:14PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> 
> Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
> easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
> lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
> libstd-6.4.3.  
> 
> This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
> mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
> that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
> good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
> around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > Steve,
> > 
> > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
> > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
> > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
> > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
> > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
> > 
> > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
> > various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
> > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
> > 
> > Chuck
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: RIPEMD160
> > > 
> > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Erik Heil]

Hi, Steve.
If you want to reconfigure the mirrors that Apt and friends use for
repositories, you can manually edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and
just replace the name of the machine with whatever mirror you want.  For
me, mirrors.kernel.org is a really good site--I will see on a regular
basis speeds in excess of 10mbits/sec.  This is because at any one given
time, the machine is not using no where near the bandwidth it is
provisioned for.  That machine has an 100mbit connection to the outside
world.
Bare in mind that all the configuration scripts do in installation is to
just script and write the sources.list(5) file from whatever mirror the
user chooses.  So its not that hard to do.  Hope this helps.
user choose during

--Erik

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:

> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:42:14 -0700
> From: Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
>
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> Hash: RIPEMD160
>
> Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
> easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
> lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
> libstd-6.4.3.
>
> This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
> mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
> that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
> good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
> around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > Steve,
> >
> > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
> > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
> > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
> > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
> > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
> >
> > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
> > various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
> > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: RIPEMD160
> > >
> > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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> >
> > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[John covici]

Look at your /etc/apt/sources.list -- everything is in there and once
you change anything be sure to do an apt-get update.

on Friday 10/17/2008 Steve Holmes(steve@holmesgrown.com) wrote
 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
 > Hash: RIPEMD160
 > 
 > Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
 > easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
 > lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
 > libstd-6.4.3.  
 > 
 > This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
 > mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
 > that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
 > good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
 > around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.
 > 
 > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
 > > Steve,
 > > 
 > > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
 > > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
 > > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
 > > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
 > > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
 > > 
 > > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
 > > various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
 > > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
 > > 
 > > Chuck
 > > 
 > > 
 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
 > > > Hash: RIPEMD160
 > > > 
 > > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
 > > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
 > > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
 > > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
 > > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
 > > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
 > > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
 > > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
 > > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
 > > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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 > > 
 > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022.
 > >                                 --------
 > > Sarah Palin: At last, a Beauty Queen who doesn't want World Peace.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Steve Holmes]

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Yeah, the sources list is easy enough.  I just liked the original list
I got at installation time where I could pick from valid list
addresses.  You and Chuck gave me a couple solutions.  I saw
kernel.org on there before and that was a likely alternate choice as I
have always had screaming speeds from there when downloading kernel
sources.

Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:52:14PM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
> Hi, Steve.
> If you want to reconfigure the mirrors that Apt and friends use for
> repositories, you can manually edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and
> just replace the name of the machine with whatever mirror you want.  For
> me, mirrors.kernel.org is a really good site--I will see on a regular
> basis speeds in excess of 10mbits/sec.  This is because at any one given
> time, the machine is not using no where near the bandwidth it is
> provisioned for.  That machine has an 100mbit connection to the outside
> world.
> Bare in mind that all the configuration scripts do in installation is to
> just script and write the sources.list(5) file from whatever mirror the
> user chooses.  So its not that hard to do.  Hope this helps.
> user choose during
> 
> --Erik
> 
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:42:14 -0700
> > From: Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: RIPEMD160
> >
> > Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
> > easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
> > lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
> > libstd-6.4.3.
> >
> > This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
> > mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
> > that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
> > good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
> > around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
> > > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
> > > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
> > > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the first
> > > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
> > >
> > > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
> > > various packages associated with a given library, then just install the
> > > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > Hash: RIPEMD160
> > > >
> > > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> > > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> > > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> > > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> > > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
> > > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
> > > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> > > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
> > > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> > > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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> > >
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> > >
> > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022.
> > >                                 --------
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Gregory Nowak]

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You may also be interested in the packages netselect, and
netselect-apt.

Greg


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 03:28:28PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Yeah, the sources list is easy enough.  I just liked the original list
> I got at installation time where I could pick from valid list
> addresses.  You and Chuck gave me a couple solutions.  I saw
> kernel.org on there before and that was a likely alternate choice as I
> have always had screaming speeds from there when downloading kernel
> sources.
> 
> Thanks.


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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Kerry Hoath]

apt-get install build-essential
or
apt-get install libc6-dev

Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: Compiling Under Debian


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I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c headers
but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I also
installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I really
wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Kerry Hoath]

And who says the options at install time are necessarily valid?
I've had some of those choices non-functional.
The only way to get a high probability working mirror is to actually look up 
mirrors.html on the website.

Luckily the big sites like kernel.org and mirrors.aarnet and debian.org 
usually work.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian


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Yeah, the sources list is easy enough.  I just liked the original list
I got at installation time where I could pick from valid list
addresses.  You and Chuck gave me a couple solutions.  I saw
kernel.org on there before and that was a likely alternate choice as I
have always had screaming speeds from there when downloading kernel
sources.

Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:52:14PM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
> Hi, Steve.
> If you want to reconfigure the mirrors that Apt and friends use for
> repositories, you can manually edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file and
> just replace the name of the machine with whatever mirror you want.  For
> me, mirrors.kernel.org is a really good site--I will see on a regular
> basis speeds in excess of 10mbits/sec.  This is because at any one given
> time, the machine is not using no where near the bandwidth it is
> provisioned for.  That machine has an 100mbit connection to the outside
> world.
> Bare in mind that all the configuration scripts do in installation is to
> just script and write the sources.list(5) file from whatever mirror the
> user chooses.  So its not that hard to do.  Hope this helps.
> user choose during
>
> --Erik
>
> On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:42:14 -0700
> > From: Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> > Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: RIPEMD160
> >
> > Well I guess I have to go and find another mirror!!! I like
> > easynews.com for its speed but I keep getting '404' errors on these
> > lib dev packages.  I can't even lookup the change logs on
> > libstd-6.4.3.
> >
> > This brings me to another question.  Since I picked the appropriate
> > mirror during installation, I don't know how to pick a new one now
> > that I have a running system.  I've been generally using aptitude with
> > good results up til now but these 404's got me down.  I'll be looking
> > around for a way to reconfigure this thing <sigh>.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 04:01:28PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > On Debian, the library packages often come in two parts, one part is
> > > sufficient to support precompiled applications, and the other part
> > > containing the necessary headers etc. needed to compile sources. Those
> > > second parts are often not automatically installed along with the 
> > > first
> > > parts. They will end with "-dev" (for development).
> > >
> > > So type "aptcache search <library name>" and you will be shown all the
> > > various packages associated with a given library, then just install 
> > > the
> > > missing "-dev" package, and your compiles will work fine.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:46:51PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > Hash: RIPEMD160
> > > >
> > > > I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C 
> > > > standard
> > > > headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
> > > > and friends but when I go to compile any c programs like espeakup, I
> > > > get not found errors all over the place for simple header files like
> > > > stdio.h, errno.h, and so forth.  I know these to be standard c 
> > > > headers
> > > > but the basic gcc package in debian doesn't seem to have them.  I 
> > > > also
> > > > installed libstd-6-4-3... but still no joy.  What the hell am I
> > > > missing here? I like Debian's package management strategy but I 
> > > > really
> > > > wish they wouldn't split up some critical packages this way.  As far
> > > > as right now is concerned, I cannot compile any c programs.
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> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (88% of Full)
> > >
> > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 
> > > 1-518-334-9022.
> > >                                 --------
> > > Sarah Palin: At last, a Beauty Queen who doesn't want World Peace.
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Steve Holmes]

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Well, kernel.org won out.  I got all my packages installed and I even
had to go after espeak-dev to make things all right.  It would be nice
if all mirrors were complete and not have these broken links.

Anyway when the packages are available the system works pretty cool.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Kerry Hoath]

often 404 errors are caused by either an out of date mirror, or one that is 
in the mids of syncing.
It can also be caused by not running an apt-get update before you install 
your packages.
Lenny is a moving target so if you want reliable mirrors run testing.

Packages change so often in lenny that the packages files and the package 
pool can be out of date for a time.

Testing tends to be less of a moving target; although not as up to date as 
unstable.
I run Ubuntu here these days as I like the 6 monthly release cycle but i'm 
not running speakup on my boxes; I ssh in from Windows boxes as the servers 
are behind a closed door.
Regards, Kerry.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian


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Well, kernel.org won out.  I got all my packages installed and I even
had to go after espeak-dev to make things all right.  It would be nice
if all mirrors were complete and not have these broken links.

Anyway when the packages are available the system works pretty cool.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Erik Heil]

Hi,
Just wondering, what do you use under Windows that will give you decent
cursor tracking abilities within an ssh session?  Because in my
experiences, cursor tracking and terminal support have major suckage in
Windows.

--Erik

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Kerry Hoath wrote:

> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:36:29 +0800
> From: Kerry Hoath <kerry@gotss.net>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
>
> often 404 errors are caused by either an out of date mirror, or one that is
> in the mids of syncing.
> It can also be caused by not running an apt-get update before you install
> your packages.
> Lenny is a moving target so if you want reliable mirrors run testing.
>
> Packages change so often in lenny that the packages files and the package
> pool can be out of date for a time.
>
> Testing tends to be less of a moving target; although not as up to date as
> unstable.
> I run Ubuntu here these days as I like the 6 monthly release cycle but i'm
> not running speakup on my boxes; I ssh in from Windows boxes as the servers
> are behind a closed door.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: RIPEMD160
>
> Well, kernel.org won out.  I got all my packages installed and I even
> had to go after espeak-dev to make things all right.  It would be nice
> if all mirrors were complete and not have these broken links.
>
> Anyway when the packages are available the system works pretty cool.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Kerry Hoath]

I use Jaws, UTF8-Teraterm pro and a small script works well.
doesn't track highlights like speakup does but it's not a pain to build into 
distribution kernels like speakup is either.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian


Hi,
Just wondering, what do you use under Windows that will give you decent
cursor tracking abilities within an ssh session?  Because in my
experiences, cursor tracking and terminal support have major suckage in
Windows.

--Erik

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008, Kerry Hoath wrote:

> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:36:29 +0800
> From: Kerry Hoath <kerry@gotss.net>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
>
> often 404 errors are caused by either an out of date mirror, or one that 
> is
> in the mids of syncing.
> It can also be caused by not running an apt-get update before you install
> your packages.
> Lenny is a moving target so if you want reliable mirrors run testing.
>
> Packages change so often in lenny that the packages files and the package
> pool can be out of date for a time.
>
> Testing tends to be less of a moving target; although not as up to date as
> unstable.
> I run Ubuntu here these days as I like the 6 monthly release cycle but i'm
> not running speakup on my boxes; I ssh in from Windows boxes as the 
> servers
> are behind a closed door.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Compiling Under Debian
>
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: RIPEMD160
>
> Well, kernel.org won out.  I got all my packages installed and I even
> had to go after espeak-dev to make things all right.  It would be nice
> if all mirrors were complete and not have these broken links.
>
> Anyway when the packages are available the system works pretty cool.
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Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Tony Baechler]

I know this isn't the "recommended" solution, but I just do:

aptitude -q install build-essential

That pulls in necessary dependencies. That's also necessary if you wish 
to compile your own Speakup modules, which it sounds like you might want 
to do since you keep running into bugs. I was using the standard 3.0.3 
20080724 which comes with Lenny and ran into problems adjusting 
parameters, so I compiled my own from source with much better results. 
If you're going to compile any kernel modules, you should also install 
the module-assistant package.

Steve Holmes wrote:
> I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
> headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
>   

Re: Compiling Under Debian

[Steve Holmes]

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Oh, is that the problem with parameters? When I ran the version script
in the git directory of speakup, it just said 3.03 but didn't give any
dates.  I'll definitely have to give that a look.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 02:52:55AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
> I know this isn't the "recommended" solution, but I just do:
>
> aptitude -q install build-essential
>
> That pulls in necessary dependencies. That's also necessary if you wish  
> to compile your own Speakup modules, which it sounds like you might want  
> to do since you keep running into bugs. I was using the standard 3.0.3  
> 20080724 which comes with Lenny and ran into problems adjusting  
> parameters, so I compiled my own from source with much better results.  
> If you're going to compile any kernel modules, you should also install  
> the module-assistant package.
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
>> I've got a testing version of Lenny here but can't find the C standard
>> headers.  I've installed every imaginable package pertaining to gcc
>>   
>
> _______________________________________________
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