getting started with speakup out of git

getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

Hi,

I applied speakup to a kernel out of debian sid (2.6.25-6) I believe it
was.

First, uname -a only says 2.6.25 it doesn't mention -6. But here are my
speakup problems:

- Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
- When speakup is talking away numpad enter doesn't shut it up. I must
do insert numpad enter and then turn it back on.
- Sometimes speakup won't respond, eg. in mutt and I must kill
speechd-up to shut it up and then restart speechd-up to get speakup
going again.
Anyone know how I can fix these?

The next thing I was wondering: How do I load synths that are built in
the kernel? eg. not modules?
And just out of curiosity, how would one start a synth built as a module
automatically?
So at boot up say just before the log in screen?

Thanks for any help,

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Willem van der Walt]

Not sure I'll answer all of your questions, but I would say to start the 
synth in the kernel you should echo the correct name to 
/sys/speakup/modules/parameters/synth_name or whatever the correct new 
path is.
There are many ways of starting modules automaticly on startup.
Distributions usually have a /etc/modules.conf or modprobe.conf file where 
it can be done.
What I use specificly for speech is the rc.local file.  Just put your 
modprobe in their.


On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I applied speakup to a kernel out of debian sid (2.6.25-6) I believe it
> was.
> 
> First, uname -a only says 2.6.25 it doesn't mention -6. But here are my
> speakup problems:
> 
> - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
> - When speakup is talking away numpad enter doesn't shut it up. I must
> do insert numpad enter and then turn it back on.
> - Sometimes speakup won't respond, eg. in mutt and I must kill
> speechd-up to shut it up and then restart speechd-up to get speakup
> going again.
> Anyone know how I can fix these?
> 
> The next thing I was wondering: How do I load synths that are built in
> the kernel? eg. not modules?
> And just out of curiosity, how would one start a synth built as a module
> automatically?
> So at boot up say just before the log in screen?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Dalton
> 
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> <d.dalton@iinet.net.au>
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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Daniel Dalton, le Tue 08 Jul 2008 21:58:14 +1000, a écrit :
> - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.

Is that a whole box crash or just a speechd-up crash?

> - When speakup is talking away numpad enter doesn't shut it up. I must
> do insert numpad enter and then turn it back on.

Mmm, my guess would be that speechd-up doesn't listen to our 0x18, was
it working before?

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:41:01AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> Hello,

Hi,

> 
> Daniel Dalton, le Tue 08 Jul 2008 21:58:14 +1000, a écrit :
> > - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
> 
> Is that a whole box crash or just a speechd-up crash?

Just a speechd-up crash. Speakup is fine and brltty continues to  work.
WilliamH on irc said he could reproduce the second bug, but not this
one...
So, perhaps I have a bad lib or something?

> 
> > - When speakup is talking away numpad enter doesn't shut it up. I must
> > do insert numpad enter and then turn it back on.
> 
> Mmm, my guess would be that speechd-up doesn't listen to our 0x18, was

WilliamH said he could reproduce this one.

> it working before?

Well, I haven't used speakup in a long time, but it worked on my 23
kernel, I must try again though to be sure my speechd-up isn't buggy.

Thanks for the reply.

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Daniel Dalton

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

Hi Samuel 

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:41:01AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> > - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
> 
> Is that a whole box crash or just a speechd-up crash?

Ok, on my .23 kernel, with the same speechd-up, I can use mutt fine, no
crashes.

So either:
- speakup out of git is buggy
- Or the new kernel does something different.

Do you run debian?
If so would it be worth you trying my kernel deb file and seeing if you
have the same errors?
I could also send along .config and maybe I made a mistake somewhere?

One thing I wasn't sure about: should speakup core be built in the
kernel or as a module? I said built-in...

Thanks,

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

Daniel Dalton, le Wed 09 Jul 2008 18:11:49 +1000, a écrit :
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:41:01AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> 
> > > - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
> > 
> > Is that a whole box crash or just a speechd-up crash?
> 
> Ok, on my .23 kernel, with the same speechd-up,

And same speakup?

> Do you run debian?
> If so would it be worth you trying my kernel deb file and seeing if you
> have the same errors?

Yep, please do.

> One thing I wasn't sure about: should speakup core be built in the
> kernel or as a module? I said built-in...

The only change is that in the kernel you'll get boot up messages.

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 11:55:00AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> > Ok, on my .23 kernel, with the same speechd-up,
> 
> And same speakup?

No, an old one from fedora.
But I patched it in debian.

Also, 
apt-get install speakup-source
and building with m-a that speakup works fine...
version 3.0.2.
So I guess the bug has been introduced or my kernel is buggy.

> 
> > Do you run debian?
> > If so would it be worth you trying my kernel deb file and seeing if you
> > have the same errors?
> 
> Yep, please do.

I'll send out an url when I get a chance to upload it to my website.

> 
> > One thing I wasn't sure about: should speakup core be built in the
> > kernel or as a module? I said built-in...
> 
> The only change is that in the kernel you'll get boot up messages.

So no differents for a software speech user?
Like building it in the kernel isn't a problem?

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Daniel Dalton

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

Daniel Dalton, le Wed 09 Jul 2008 22:27:00 +1000, a écrit :
> Also, 
> apt-get install speakup-source
> and building with m-a that speakup works fine...
> version 3.0.2.

With the same kernel as the one that poses problem then?

> > > One thing I wasn't sure about: should speakup core be built in the
> > > kernel or as a module? I said built-in...
> > 
> > The only change is that in the kernel you'll get boot up messages.
> 
> So no differents for a software speech user?

Since you can not run the software speech synthesis before some point in
the boot, that doesn't make any indeed.

> Like building it in the kernel isn't a problem?

Shouldn't.

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[William Hubbs]

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On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 02:41:01AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > - Using speechd-up (soft synth) I get crashes every 5 minutes or so.
> 
> Is that a whole box crash or just a speechd-up crash?
> 
> > - When speakup is talking away numpad enter doesn't shut it up. I must
> > do insert numpad enter and then turn it back on.
> 
> Mmm, my guess would be that speechd-up doesn't listen to our 0x18, was
> it working before?

All,

I just got this to happen by pressing numpad enter with the softsynth.

Here is what showed up in my syslog:

Jul  9 09:21:42 linux1 sd_espeak[20877]: segfault at 813c000 ip b7cffcbc sp b684f05c error 4 in libc-2.6.1.so[b7c92000+12a000]

Is this an issue with speakup or speechd-up?

Thanks,
William

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

William Hubbs, le Wed 09 Jul 2008 09:29:56 -0500, a écrit :
> I just got this to happen by pressing numpad enter with the softsynth.
> 
> Here is what showed up in my syslog:
> 
> Jul  9 09:21:42 linux1 sd_espeak[20877]: segfault at 813c000 ip b7cffcbc sp b684f05c error 4 in libc-2.6.1.so[b7c92000+12a000]
> 
> Is this an issue with speakup or speechd-up?

Well, a program is not supposed to crash, whatever it is fed with by
another...

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

Samuel Thibault, le Wed 09 Jul 2008 15:36:29 +0100, a écrit :
> William Hubbs, le Wed 09 Jul 2008 09:29:56 -0500, a écrit :
> > I just got this to happen by pressing numpad enter with the softsynth.
> > 
> > Here is what showed up in my syslog:
> > 
> > Jul  9 09:21:42 linux1 sd_espeak[20877]: segfault at 813c000 ip b7cffcbc sp b684f05c error 4 in libc-2.6.1.so[b7c92000+12a000]
> > 
> > Is this an issue with speakup or speechd-up?
> 
> Well, a program is not supposed to crash, whatever it is fed with by
> another...

However it looks like we are missing a break in the while loop. Pushed a
fix.

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:43:22PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> > Well, a program is not supposed to crash, whatever it is fed with by
> > another...
> 
> However it looks like we are missing a break in the while loop. Pushed a
> fix.

Works here, (no crashes!) the only issue is with numpad enter not shutting speakup up.
Works in all other versions of speakup and kernels.
But they are older speakups.
So I suspect there must be another bug in speakup? (the recent versions)

Thanks for the fix!

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Daniel Dalton

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Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Daniel Dalton, le Thu 10 Jul 2008 10:15:40 +1000, a écrit :
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 03:43:22PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > > Well, a program is not supposed to crash, whatever it is fed with by
> > > another...
> > 
> > However it looks like we are missing a break in the while loop. Pushed a
> > fix.
> 
> Works here, (no crashes!)

Ok, cool!

> the only issue is with numpad enter not shutting speakup up.

With the soft synth I guess?  I've just pushed a fix (01:17 GMT+01)

Samuel

Re: getting started with speakup out of git

[Daniel Dalton]

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:28:09AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:

> > the only issue is with numpad enter not shutting speakup up.
> 
> With the soft synth I guess?

yep

> I've just pushed a fix (01:17 GMT+01)

Cool, will try it as soon as I get some of my work done... And I'll let
you know how it goes...

Thanks!

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Daniel Dalton

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