Pine, exim, and authentication

Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, as advised, I reinstalled exim. I filled in the passwd.client file and 
tried to configure exim; got no errors with the update and restarting. 
However, whatever I do, I still get errors about insecure server and unable 
to authenticate to smtp server. obviously I'm missing something here but I 
haven't really found a step-by-step description of what I'm supposed to do 
so it's hard to know what I might have skipped.




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Cheryl

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Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

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Cheryl,

Look at /etc/exim4/passwd.client

It has an example of what to enter there. 

Chuck

On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:59:18PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Ok, as advised, I reinstalled exim. I filled in the passwd.client file and 
> tried to configure exim; got no errors with the update and restarting. 
> However, whatever I do, I still get errors about insecure server and unable 
> to authenticate to smtp server. obviously I'm missing something here but I 
> haven't really found a step-by-step description of what I'm supposed to do 
> so it's hard to know what I might have skipped.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
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> there will your heart be also."
> 
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Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Chuck.

Yes, I think I already did the passwd.client file; I did smtp.att.yahoo.com 
followed by a colon and my username and a colon and my password. But I must 
be missing something in the configuration of exim itself.

Thanks.




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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

This is just a guess.  I've seen other DSL providers who require authentication, but there server doesn't support secure authentication.
I had to tell exim to send user ID and password in plain text to get things to work.  Linux assumes it should send
passwords securely, but some ISPs are brain dead.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

Kenny:
How did you tell exim to do this? I see areas in the conf.template but they 
appear to already be uncommented.
Thanks.




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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Christopher Moore]

Cheryl,
I found some stuff in the manual under /usr/doc/exim4.
To tell exim4 to allow staright text passwords, I created a
/etc/exim4/exim4.conf.localmacros file containing the following line:
AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS = 1

They don't advise messing with the template file.  
Let us know what kinds of authentication errors you are getting if this 
doesn't work.  Also if you can find the email settings for outlook 
express, we should be able to determine whether you need ssl 
authentication.

Chris
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 04:31:24PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Kenny:
> How did you tell exim to do this? I see areas in the conf.template but they 
> appear to already be uncommented.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is,
> there will your heart be also."
> 
> 
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Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

Thanks so much. I will try adding this file and line.

As for my Outlook Express settings for outgoing mail:
password authentication is required but secure login is unchecked. Under 
"advanced" secure connection sslq is checked.




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there will your heart be also."

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

When I sent my OE settings, I forgot to mention that the smtp port is 465. 
The port for incoming mail is 995. I mention the incoming port because the 
pop and smtp settings are the same except for the port number, and I have no 
problem getting my mail with getmail. As for outgoing mail, I am still 
getting "530: authentication required" even after adding the line to the 
macros file, which btw needs to be in all caps. I did remember to update and 
invoke. Somehow, smtp authentication seems to be the problem but I'm 
wondering how to make sure this is working on port 465.

thanks.




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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Christopher Moore]

Cheryl,
One issue is using port 465.  We need to tell exim4 to use port 465 
rather than the default port 25 to send mail.  I'll see whether I can 
find anything in the exim4 docs on how to do this.
Chris
On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:40:56AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> When I sent my OE settings, I forgot to mention that the smtp port is 465. 
> The port for incoming mail is 995. I mention the incoming port because the 
> pop and smtp settings are the same except for the port number, and I have no 
> problem getting my mail with getmail. As for outgoing mail, I am still 
> getting "530: authentication required" even after adding the line to the 
> macros file, which btw needs to be in all caps. I did remember to update and 
> invoke. Somehow, smtp authentication seems to be the problem but I'm 
> wondering how to make sure this is working on port 465.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is,
> there will your heart be also."
> 
> 
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Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Christopher Moore]

Cheryl,
You should also read section 2.2 in the debian docs for exim4
/usr/share/doc/exim4
README.Debian.html (using your favorite browser).
Chris

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Cheryl Homiak]

Thanks so much, Chris. I've been looking for this too. One thing that's hard 
is always having to sort out whether what you are reading is for the server 
side or client side.




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Cheryl

"Where your treasure is,
there will your heart be also."

Re: Pine, exim, and authentication

[Christopher Moore]

Cheryl,
Think "client".  You're basically sending mail to a mail server.

Chris