OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Gaijin]

     Hello,
	
     I was wondering if there was still any old-fashioned, direct,
computer to computer VOIP clients out there that  *don't* go through
some 3rd-party service like Skype, that will run on both Windows and
Linux, or at least Windows, so a friend can do some remote
troubleshooting of my WinXP box.  I was hoping to just email or phone
this friend our IP numbers, input it into a simple VOIP client, and be
able to speak to each other while he troubleshoots my system.  I only
have a cell phone, and the battery is only good for about an hour per
day, leaving me up the creek if I ever need to dial 911.  All the client
needs to do is create a voice connection between two computers, without
any frils, IP to IP.  We both can't afford 20-odd phone systems, just to
stay in touch, and everything out there now seems to require that
everything pass through some middle-man or service that now has to be
paid for.  I'm wondering whatever happened to software like
see-you-see-mee, or whatever that video-chat program was called, that
was being used on IRC, or the old I-Phone software...wherever they went.
  I'm looking for the cheapest, free voice communications software that
there is for Windows, and if possible, that will also work on Linux.
Any clues would be appreciated.  TIA,

         Michael

Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Nick Stockton]

Well as far as skype goes pc to pc calls are free and if you want to get 
unlimited pc to phone calls in the U.S and Canada you can pay about $2.50 a 
month.
as far as a linux based console client I only know of one called linphone 
but don't know how hard it is to get working.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gaijin" <gaijin@clearwire.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?


>     Hello,
>
>     I was wondering if there was still any old-fashioned, direct,
> computer to computer VOIP clients out there that  *don't* go through
> some 3rd-party service like Skype, that will run on both Windows and
> Linux, or at least Windows, so a friend can do some remote
> troubleshooting of my WinXP box.  I was hoping to just email or phone
> this friend our IP numbers, input it into a simple VOIP client, and be
> able to speak to each other while he troubleshoots my system.  I only
> have a cell phone, and the battery is only good for about an hour per
> day, leaving me up the creek if I ever need to dial 911.  All the client
> needs to do is create a voice connection between two computers, without
> any frils, IP to IP.  We both can't afford 20-odd phone systems, just to
> stay in touch, and everything out there now seems to require that
> everything pass through some middle-man or service that now has to be
> paid for.  I'm wondering whatever happened to software like
> see-you-see-mee, or whatever that video-chat program was called, that
> was being used on IRC, or the old I-Phone software...wherever they went.
>  I'm looking for the cheapest, free voice communications software that
> there is for Windows, and if possible, that will also work on Linux.
> Any clues would be appreciated.  TIA,
>
>         Michael
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Janina Sajka]

Skype is a proprietary protocol. In other words, it has a license that
makes most of us rather ill. Therefore, I don't believe you'll find it
supported by linphone or twinkle.

If you want low cost, you can look at Free World Dialup or Ekiga. But,
you should forget Skype.

Janina

Nick Stockton writes:
> Well as far as skype goes pc to pc calls are free and if you want to get 
> unlimited pc to phone calls in the U.S and Canada you can pay about $2.50 a 
> month.
> as far as a linux based console client I only know of one called linphone 
> but don't know how hard it is to get working.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gaijin" <gaijin@clearwire.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:17 PM
> Subject: OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?
> 
> 
> >     Hello,
> >
> >     I was wondering if there was still any old-fashioned, direct,
> > computer to computer VOIP clients out there that  *don't* go through
> > some 3rd-party service like Skype, that will run on both Windows and
> > Linux, or at least Windows, so a friend can do some remote
> > troubleshooting of my WinXP box.  I was hoping to just email or phone
> > this friend our IP numbers, input it into a simple VOIP client, and be
> > able to speak to each other while he troubleshoots my system.  I only
> > have a cell phone, and the battery is only good for about an hour per
> > day, leaving me up the creek if I ever need to dial 911.  All the client
> > needs to do is create a voice connection between two computers, without
> > any frils, IP to IP.  We both can't afford 20-odd phone systems, just to
> > stay in touch, and everything out there now seems to require that
> > everything pass through some middle-man or service that now has to be
> > paid for.  I'm wondering whatever happened to software like
> > see-you-see-mee, or whatever that video-chat program was called, that
> > was being used on IRC, or the old I-Phone software...wherever they went.
> >  I'm looking for the cheapest, free voice communications software that
> > there is for Windows, and if possible, that will also work on Linux.
> > Any clues would be appreciated.  TIA,
> >
> >         Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Dawes, Stephen]

Not true.

Read the sip to skype article at:
http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/skype/sip-to-skype-gateway-break
s-skypes-great-wall-of-voip.asp 

It tells you what you need to access skype from this the sip protocol,
including how it was accomplished in both windows and linux. Asterisk
has the ability of interfacing with skype, which is also discussed in
this article.



Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca


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Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Janina Sajka]

OK, so someone has a sip gateway into Skype? Cool, I suppose. Still
doesn't interest me, but perhaps one could access Skype clients via it
using command line twinkle, for instance.

I still see no reason to bother with Skype, but that's just my view. I
also don't see what part isn't true? That you can access Skype from
Linux using a screen reader? Knock yourself out, I suppose. At $1.49
U.S. per phone number from Vitelity, and a cost of 1.1 cents per minute,
I am quite happy with my pstn interconnection. And, that's for people I
can't call for free using my voip client and server on Linux. Speaking
for myself, you can keep your Skype, along with flash, pdf, etc., etc.

Janina

Dawes, Stephen writes:
> Not true.
> 
> Read the sip to skype article at:
> http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/skype/sip-to-skype-gateway-break
> s-skypes-great-wall-of-voip.asp 
> 
> It tells you what you need to access skype from this the sip protocol,
> including how it was accomplished in both windows and linux. Asterisk
> has the ability of interfacing with skype, which is also discussed in
> this article.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> 
> 
> NOTICE -
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> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Nick Stockton]

hmmm does fwd have unlimited pc to phone in the U.S?
I'll look at their site again.
Not used them or any other voip services in a couple of years now.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?


> Skype is a proprietary protocol. In other words, it has a license that
> makes most of us rather ill. Therefore, I don't believe you'll find it
> supported by linphone or twinkle.
>
> If you want low cost, you can look at Free World Dialup or Ekiga. But,
> you should forget Skype.
>
> Janina
>
> Nick Stockton writes:
>> Well as far as skype goes pc to pc calls are free and if you want to get
>> unlimited pc to phone calls in the U.S and Canada you can pay about $2.50 
>> a
>> month.
>> as far as a linux based console client I only know of one called linphone
>> but don't know how hard it is to get working.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gaijin" <gaijin@clearwire.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:17 PM
>> Subject: OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?
>>
>>
>> >     Hello,
>> >
>> >     I was wondering if there was still any old-fashioned, direct,
>> > computer to computer VOIP clients out there that  *don't* go through
>> > some 3rd-party service like Skype, that will run on both Windows and
>> > Linux, or at least Windows, so a friend can do some remote
>> > troubleshooting of my WinXP box.  I was hoping to just email or phone
>> > this friend our IP numbers, input it into a simple VOIP client, and be
>> > able to speak to each other while he troubleshoots my system.  I only
>> > have a cell phone, and the battery is only good for about an hour per
>> > day, leaving me up the creek if I ever need to dial 911.  All the 
>> > client
>> > needs to do is create a voice connection between two computers, without
>> > any frils, IP to IP.  We both can't afford 20-odd phone systems, just 
>> > to
>> > stay in touch, and everything out there now seems to require that
>> > everything pass through some middle-man or service that now has to be
>> > paid for.  I'm wondering whatever happened to software like
>> > see-you-see-mee, or whatever that video-chat program was called, that
>> > was being used on IRC, or the old I-Phone software...wherever they 
>> > went.
>> >  I'm looking for the cheapest, free voice communications software that
>> > there is for Windows, and if possible, that will also work on Linux.
>> > Any clues would be appreciated.  TIA,
>> >
>> >         Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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>
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> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and 
> Canada
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>
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>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Janina Sajka]

If by 'phone' you mean an interconnect with the public switched network,
I don't know. I never found fwd all that reliable a service, and at the
cheap prices I can get for pstn interconnect, plus having my own number
in any area code, I stopped trying to work fwd much beyond the proof of
concept stage.

Janina

Nick Stockton writes:
> hmmm does fwd have unlimited pc to phone in the U.S?
> I'll look at their site again.
> Not used them or any other voip services in a couple of years now.

Re: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Doug Smith]

Ok, I have this linphone program.  I found it on the old Oralux project, which
I plan to take over and start maintaining again.  Linphone comes with this.  I
have installed the debian binary package of it several times, and there is no
problem getting it going.  Just google for linphone and see if it's still out
there.  



Hope this helps. 

Re: OT: VOIP clients for Windows and Linux?

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:17:31PM +0100, Gaijin wrote:
>      Hello,
> 	
>      I was wondering if there was still any old-fashioned, direct,
> computer to computer VOIP clients out there that  *don't* go through
> some 3rd-party service like Skype, that will run on both Windows and
> Linux, or at least Windows, so a friend can do some remote
> troubleshooting of my WinXP box.  I was hoping to just email or phone
> this friend our IP numbers, input it into a simple VOIP client, and be
> able to speak to each other while he troubleshoots my system.  I only
> have a cell phone, and the battery is only good for about an hour per
> day, leaving me up the creek if I ever need to dial 911.  All the client
> needs to do is create a voice connection between two computers, without
> any frils, IP to IP.  We both can't afford 20-odd phone systems, just to
> stay in touch, and everything out there now seems to require that
> everything pass through some middle-man or service that now has to be
> paid for.  I'm wondering whatever happened to software like
> see-you-see-mee, or whatever that video-chat program was called, that
> was being used on IRC, or the old I-Phone software...wherever they went.
>   I'm looking for the cheapest, free voice communications software that
> there is for Windows, and if possible, that will also work on Linux.
> Any clues would be appreciated.  TIA,
> 
>          Michael
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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