Linux Programming

Linux Programming

[Radical NetSurfer]

Perhaps someone can please sterr me in the right
direction with this request:

I have the standard Fedora Core 5 working just fine
for me on 2 different machines.

As I have mentioned earlier, I happen to have both a
Double Talk ISA and a Dec Talk ISA card.

I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text to
an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with Doubletalk
ISA.

I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears to
work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA card,
the Xchat abruptly closes.

I suspect that I need to ask permission from Linux to
be allowed to access the DMA address space that the
Doubletalk ISA card is using, and since I did not make
formal request to use these memory addresses, Linux
responds by totally shutting down Xchat IRC client.

My question is simply this:
Could I find help from someone who would be willing to
point to books on how to write proper modern linux
drivers (under Fedora Core), or to another mailing
list 
where we can chat purely about programming issues.

I also have gaim, and use AOL's Instant Messenger.
If you would love to discuss either installation
issues 
with Speakup or Linux Programming issues, please let
me know.

Let me just mention that I have a working version of a
DLL plugin for Xchat IRC Clinet under Windows 98SE for
both the Doubletalk and the DecTalk Cards... so based
on that I know I must be on the correct track. The
situation is of course, Windows 98SE is not picky
about allowing software to access hardware without
getting special permission from the operating system.
But at least I know the inline assembly code does
indeed work properly by themselves.  My goal is to
learn how to achieve this 
success with Linux.

Thank you.

//Rich//




 
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Re: Linux Programming

[Luke Yelavich]

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On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:34:19AM EST, Radical NetSurfer wrote:
> I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
> Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text to
> an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with Doubletalk
> ISA.
> 
> I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
> perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears to
> work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA card,
> the Xchat abruptly closes.

How about you just use the dtlk module in the kernel, make the /dev/dtlk 
device, and send your text to that?

I think that would be a lot easier.
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Re: Linux Programming

[Kirk Reiser]

First of all, there is no problem discussing programming topics on
this list so don't be concerned about that.  Secondly, I agree with
Luke the source for the dtlk module which you can find in your linux
source tree under drivers/char/dtlk.c is a good place to start if you
want info.  As Luke also points out however it is a complete driver
therefore there is no need to write your own other than for the pure
joy of it.

O'Reilly has quite a few books on writing drivers under gnu/linux and
at least one book on the linux kernel internals both good reads.

You can also look at the speakup drivers for the DoubleTalk and
DECTalk which will also give you more insight so there is a lot of
information available.

Now to answer your specific issue, to access any hardware as you have
surmised one must register the request to talk to that hardware with
the appropriate registration routines for the hardware you wish to
address.  You will see how that is done in all of the above mentioned
code routines.

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Re: Linux Programming

[Radical NetSurfer]

This is what I have discovered so far:

ISA slot #1: 56k Modem
ISA slot #2: DoubleTalk
PCI sound/network/etc.

Activate a terminal.
Become super-user.
type:
/sbin/modprobe dtlk
and immediately I hear these words coming out of the
doubletalk card:
"Doubletalk Found."

Ok. So far so good you would think.
echo 'Hello World!' >/dev/dtlk
echo 'Hello World!' 1>/dev/dtlk
result in nothing being heard.

If I exit super-user, I get Permission Denied.
I know one has to be very careful as super user and
where you redirect things.

I wrote me a little gcc program that attempts to
dtlk = open('/dev/dtlk',O_RDWR);
and dtlk is always -1, meaning it couldn't find and/or
open the device
so that stops me cold.

On the one hand, apparently Fedora see's my Doubletalk
card,
on the other hand, I find no way to access it.
I do not want to be in super-user mode all the time
just to access the card, and that should not be
necessary.

I did also discover the, as yet not too helpful, 
C header file located here:
/usr/include/linux/dtlk.h

and the modproble module is located where it should
be:
/lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/kernel/drivers/char/dtlk.ko

What I would greatly appreciate is a gcc code snippet
I could compile that would cause any string I send to
a function to simply goto the card...

I am working on downloading what source I get.

Thanks for the assist.

//Rich//

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> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:34:19AM EST, Radical
> NetSurfer wrote:
> > I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
> > Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text
> to
> > an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with
> Doubletalk
> > ISA.
> > 
> > I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
> > perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears
> to
> > work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA
> card,
> > the Xchat abruptly closes.
> 
> How about you just use the dtlk module in the
> kernel, make the /dev/dtlk 
> device, and send your text to that?
> 
> I think that would be a lot easier.
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Re: Linux Programming

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi. Just a suggestion; try doing ls /dev/dtlk and see what you get. It's entirely possible that the device node doesn't exist, in which case you will have to manually create it.
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 06:08:53AM -0800, Radical NetSurfer wrote:
> This is what I have discovered so far:
> 
> ISA slot #1: 56k Modem
> ISA slot #2: DoubleTalk
> PCI sound/network/etc.
> 
> Activate a terminal.
> Become super-user.
> type:
> /sbin/modprobe dtlk
> and immediately I hear these words coming out of the
> doubletalk card:
> "Doubletalk Found."
> 
> Ok. So far so good you would think.
> echo 'Hello World!' >/dev/dtlk
> echo 'Hello World!' 1>/dev/dtlk
> result in nothing being heard.
> 
> If I exit super-user, I get Permission Denied.
> I know one has to be very careful as super user and
> where you redirect things.
> 
> I wrote me a little gcc program that attempts to
> dtlk = open('/dev/dtlk',O_RDWR);
> and dtlk is always -1, meaning it couldn't find and/or
> open the device
> so that stops me cold.
> 
> On the one hand, apparently Fedora see's my Doubletalk
> card,
> on the other hand, I find no way to access it.
> I do not want to be in super-user mode all the time
> just to access the card, and that should not be
> necessary.
> 
> I did also discover the, as yet not too helpful, 
> C header file located here:
> /usr/include/linux/dtlk.h
> 
> and the modproble module is located where it should
> be:
> /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/kernel/drivers/char/dtlk.ko
> 
> What I would greatly appreciate is a gcc code snippet
> I could compile that would cause any string I send to
> a function to simply goto the card...
> 
> I am working on downloading what source I get.
> 
> Thanks for the assist.
> 
> //Rich//
> 
> --- Luke Yelavich <themuso@themuso.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:34:19AM EST, Radical
> > NetSurfer wrote:
> > > I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
> > > Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text
> > to
> > > an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with
> > Doubletalk
> > > ISA.
> > > 
> > > I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
> > > perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears
> > to
> > > work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA
> > card,
> > > the Xchat abruptly closes.
> > 
> > How about you just use the dtlk module in the
> > kernel, make the /dev/dtlk 
> > device, and send your text to that?
> > 
> > I think that would be a lot easier.
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Re: Linux Programming

[Igor Gueths]

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Sorry I forgot to mention how you should attempt creating the device. Use mknod (man mknod) for more info.
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 06:08:53AM -0800, Radical NetSurfer wrote:
> This is what I have discovered so far:
> 
> ISA slot #1: 56k Modem
> ISA slot #2: DoubleTalk
> PCI sound/network/etc.
> 
> Activate a terminal.
> Become super-user.
> type:
> /sbin/modprobe dtlk
> and immediately I hear these words coming out of the
> doubletalk card:
> "Doubletalk Found."
> 
> Ok. So far so good you would think.
> echo 'Hello World!' >/dev/dtlk
> echo 'Hello World!' 1>/dev/dtlk
> result in nothing being heard.
> 
> If I exit super-user, I get Permission Denied.
> I know one has to be very careful as super user and
> where you redirect things.
> 
> I wrote me a little gcc program that attempts to
> dtlk = open('/dev/dtlk',O_RDWR);
> and dtlk is always -1, meaning it couldn't find and/or
> open the device
> so that stops me cold.
> 
> On the one hand, apparently Fedora see's my Doubletalk
> card,
> on the other hand, I find no way to access it.
> I do not want to be in super-user mode all the time
> just to access the card, and that should not be
> necessary.
> 
> I did also discover the, as yet not too helpful, 
> C header file located here:
> /usr/include/linux/dtlk.h
> 
> and the modproble module is located where it should
> be:
> /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/kernel/drivers/char/dtlk.ko
> 
> What I would greatly appreciate is a gcc code snippet
> I could compile that would cause any string I send to
> a function to simply goto the card...
> 
> I am working on downloading what source I get.
> 
> Thanks for the assist.
> 
> //Rich//
> 
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> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 11:34:19AM EST, Radical
> > NetSurfer wrote:
> > > I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
> > > Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text
> > to
> > > an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with
> > Doubletalk
> > > ISA.
> > > 
> > > I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
> > > perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears
> > to
> > > work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA
> > card,
> > > the Xchat abruptly closes.
> > 
> > How about you just use the dtlk module in the
> > kernel, make the /dev/dtlk 
> > device, and send your text to that?
> > 
> > I think that would be a lot easier.
> > - -- 
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> 
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Re: Linux Programming

[Radical NetSurfer]

I read both the man page and info page on mknod,
the only problem is I have no idea exactly what the
major/minor version of this doubletalk should be
offhand.
the other problem is what little experiment I did try
did not result in anything being recognized by my gcc
program of by re-directing using >/dev/dtlk

The mknod commands executed with no error messages,
and then a /dev/dtlk appeared where none existed
before.  Of course I am not absolutely certain what
the best choice of options would be.  
Seems like I'd want some kind of Read/Write mode? at
least Write makes sense to send data to the card.
And the equivalent of what a standard file handle type
device would use for a default mode, unbuffered
character stream.

I am probably correct when I'm thinking of this as
having to probably send one character at a time from a
C-String while uses something like:
while ( *str != 0 ) { wrtie(dtlk, *str++, 1); }
assuming the device node was properly created using
mknod.... which is a new one on me, and we accept we
have to send a single character at a time.

The issue of when the card responds is one of internal
buffering and any need to see a period and/or carriage
return / line feed combination to trigger a
text-to-speech to actually occur.

Am I at least close to understanding the particualrs?

At the rate I'm going it might be another month before
I see a breakthrough.  Surely there has to be a more
direct route here.  I feel like there might be someone
out there to see that I am very serious about my
programming and just need a little guidance to get
over this one little problem.

I also have not yet found a dtlk.c program which
fedora  
wants to compile for me. I get a huge list of errors,
mostly about not finding the required include files.

//Rich//

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> creating the device. Use mknod (man mknod) for more
> info.
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 06:08:53AM -0800, Radical
> NetSurfer wrote:
> > This is what I have discovered so far:
> > 
> > ISA slot #1: 56k Modem
> > ISA slot #2: DoubleTalk
> > PCI sound/network/etc.
> > 
> > Activate a terminal.
> > Become super-user.
> > type:
> > /sbin/modprobe dtlk
> > and immediately I hear these words coming out of
> the
> > doubletalk card:
> > "Doubletalk Found."
> > 
> > Ok. So far so good you would think.




 
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Re: Linux Programming

[Luke Yelavich]

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On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 10:43:27AM EST, Radical NetSurfer wrote:
> I read both the man page and info page on mknod,
> the only problem is I have no idea exactly what the
> major/minor version of this doubletalk should be
> offhand.

Check the output of dmesg. As far as I can remember, the dtlk driver 
uses major 253, and I think you use minor 0. SO the command would look 
something like the following:

mknod /dev/dtlk c 253 0

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Re: Linux Programming

[Janina Sajka]

I am in no way able to discourse these programming details. However, I
would suggest that you disable se-linux, if you haven't already. Edit
/etc/sysconfig/selinux and reboot. You might similarly dismiss iptables,
though I don't really think it's implicated:

service iptables stop

Part of the job of both se-linux and iptables is to control who/what
gets access to who/what. So, the principal I'm recommending is to
eliminate the obvious filters first.

PS: Are you aware that the gui screen reader, orca, has speech enable
gaim?

Radical NetSurfer writes:
> Perhaps someone can please sterr me in the right
> direction with this request:
> 
> I have the standard Fedora Core 5 working just fine
> for me on 2 different machines.
> 
> As I have mentioned earlier, I happen to have both a
> Double Talk ISA and a Dec Talk ISA card.
> 
> I have tried all by myself to create a plugin for
> Xchat for Linux that would send all the chat text to
> an appropriate card. Lets concentrate with Doubletalk
> ISA.
> 
> I am using an inline assembly block. It compiles
> perfectly fine. The plugin is accepted and appears to
> work only until I initialized the Doubletalk ISA card,
> the Xchat abruptly closes.
> 
> I suspect that I need to ask permission from Linux to
> be allowed to access the DMA address space that the
> Doubletalk ISA card is using, and since I did not make
> formal request to use these memory addresses, Linux
> responds by totally shutting down Xchat IRC client.
> 
> My question is simply this:
> Could I find help from someone who would be willing to
> point to books on how to write proper modern linux
> drivers (under Fedora Core), or to another mailing
> list 
> where we can chat purely about programming issues.
> 
> I also have gaim, and use AOL's Instant Messenger.
> If you would love to discuss either installation
> issues 
> with Speakup or Linux Programming issues, please let
> me know.
> 
> Let me just mention that I have a working version of a
> DLL plugin for Xchat IRC Clinet under Windows 98SE for
> both the Doubletalk and the DecTalk Cards... so based
> on that I know I must be on the correct track. The
> situation is of course, Windows 98SE is not picky
> about allowing software to access hardware without
> getting special permission from the operating system.
> But at least I know the inline assembly code does
> indeed work properly by themselves.  My goal is to
> learn how to achieve this 
> success with Linux.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> //Rich//
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Re: Linux Programming

[Radical NetSurfer]

With the advice given to me so far, I have been
able to accomplish the following:

echo 'Now is the time for all good men to come to the
aid of your country' >/dev/dtlk

now works.

My original gcc program to send text data to the
Doubletalk now functions.  My Xchat plugin should work
now.

It comes down to knowing the proper arguments to
mknod, and also the proper order of doing things.

I would still love to learn how to directly access the
ISA card just to prove I can do it.

SeLinux apparently was never an issue.

Thanks everyone!

//Rich//

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> > the only problem is I have no idea exactly what
> the
> > major/minor version of this doubletalk should be
> > offhand.
> 
> Check the output of dmesg. As far as I can remember,
> the dtlk driver 
> uses major 253, and I think you use minor 0. SO the
> command would look 
> something like the following:
> 
> mknod /dev/dtlk c 253 0
> 
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installing remotely

[Butch Bussen]

I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a 
"serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the 
first prompt to do this?
I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but 
always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and 
running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp to 
do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

RE: installing remotely

[Tom Moore]

If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
/dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora detects.
I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have to
hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp server
so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine is.

Tom
 
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On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
Subject: installing remotely

I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a 
"serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the 
first prompt to do this?
I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but 
always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and 
running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp to 
do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
73s
Butch Bussen
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RE: installing remotely

[Butch Bussen]

Thanks.  I'd probably use dhcp as this seems easier.  I know where my 
router starts numbering machines, so it isn't hard to find as I have the 
other machines on the network set to static ip addresses.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

On Thu, 9 Nov 
2006, Tom Moore wrote:

> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora detects.
> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have to
> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp server
> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine is.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
> Subject: installing remotely
>
> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a
> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the
> first prompt to do this?
> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but
> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and
> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp to
> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
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Re: Linux Programming (DecTalk)

[Radical NetSurfer]

Can you please provide me with the mknod values needed
for the DecTalk PC ISA card...
Since it didn't plug/play the DoubleTalk, I should be
ready with the proper values.

Another question:
Can I get someone to just send me the Compiled 
start-up package for DecTalk ISA for Fedora Core 5?
I am hoping I'll be most impressed to see that work
the first time.
Unlike the smart design of the DoubleTalk, DecTalk
requires these external files be loaded into it, which
is a mixed blessing as far as I'm concerned.
I have also discovered it does indeed use more
conventional memory then I think it should. 
DoubleTalk doesn't rob you of any conventional memory
whatsoever. But, I actually prefer the DecTalk voice,
DoubleTalk tens to slur just a tad, as excellent as it
is in many other respects.

//Rich//

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> > I read both the man page and info page on mknod,
> > the only problem is I have no idea exactly what
> the
> > major/minor version of this doubletalk should be
> > offhand.
> 
> Check the output of dmesg. As far as I can remember,
> the dtlk driver 
> uses major 253, and I think you use minor 0. SO the
> command would look 
> something like the following:
> 
> mknod /dev/dtlk c 253 0
> 
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Re: installing remotely

[Janina Sajka]

This is mostly correct. One suggestion:

Rather than ksdevice=eth0, use the mac address to be very certain telnet
will talk to the device you intend:

ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff

PS: The advice here references Fedora, none others.

Tom Moore writes:
> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora detects.
> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have to
> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp server
> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine is.
> 
> Tom
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
> Subject: installing remotely
> 
> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a 
> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the 
> first prompt to do this?
> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but 
> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and 
> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp to 
> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
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Re: installing remotely

[Butch Bussen]

What would you type if you wanted to use dhcp?
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

On Sat, 11 Nov 2006, 
Janina Sajka wrote:

> This is mostly correct. One suggestion:
>
> Rather than ksdevice=eth0, use the mac address to be very certain telnet
> will talk to the device you intend:
>
> ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
>
> PS: The advice here references Fedora, none others.
>
> Tom Moore writes:
>> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
>> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
>> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora detects.
>> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have to
>> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp server
>> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine is.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
>> Subject: installing remotely
>>
>> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a
>> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the
>> first prompt to do this?
>> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but
>> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and
>> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp to
>> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
>> 73s
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>>
>>
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Re: installing remotely

[Chris Norman]

What would be the point? You wouldn't know where the DHCP had put the 
computer... :-D

Cheers,

Chris Norman
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: installing remotely


> What would you type if you wanted to use dhcp?
> 73s
> Butch Bussen
> wa0vjr
>
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006,
> Janina Sajka wrote:
>
>> This is mostly correct. One suggestion:
>>
>> Rather than ksdevice=eth0, use the mac address to be very certain telnet
>> will talk to the device you intend:
>>
>> ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
>>
>> PS: The advice here references Fedora, none others.
>>
>> Tom Moore writes:
>>> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
>>> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
>>> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>>> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>>> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora 
>>> detects.
>>> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have 
>>> to
>>> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp 
>>> server
>>> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine 
>>> is.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
>>> Subject: installing remotely
>>>
>>> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a
>>> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the
>>> first prompt to do this?
>>> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but
>>> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and
>>> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp 
>>> to
>>> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
>>> 73s
>>> Butch Bussen
>>> wa0vjr
>>>
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Re: installing remotely

[Butch Bussen]

I would have a fairly good idea.  I've done it with windows machines.  I 
have my router set to start numbering at 100,  and my other machines on 
the network are numbered with static addresses below this, so first is 
101.  It comes up this way at firs anyhow when I install it with sighted 
help and do my first login as root.  Should work the same.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

On Mon, 13 Nov 
2006, Chris Norman wrote:

> What would be the point? You wouldn't know where the DHCP had put the
> computer... :-D
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Norman
> <!-- cnorman@rnibncw.ac.uk -->
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: installing remotely
>
>
>> What would you type if you wanted to use dhcp?
>> 73s
>> Butch Bussen
>> wa0vjr
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2006,
>> Janina Sajka wrote:
>>
>>> This is mostly correct. One suggestion:
>>>
>>> Rather than ksdevice=eth0, use the mac address to be very certain telnet
>>> will talk to the device you intend:
>>>
>>> ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
>>>
>>> PS: The advice here references Fedora, none others.
>>>
>>> Tom Moore writes:
>>>> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
>>>> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
>>>> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>>>> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
>>>> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora
>>>> detects.
>>>> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have
>>>> to
>>>> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp
>>>> server
>>>> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine
>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
>>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>>> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
>>>> Subject: installing remotely
>>>>
>>>> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a
>>>> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the
>>>> first prompt to do this?
>>>> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but
>>>> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and
>>>> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp
>>>> to
>>>> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
>>>> 73s
>>>> Butch Bussen
>>>> wa0vjr
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: installing remotely

[Janina Sajka]

Chris Norman writes:
> What would be the point? You wouldn't know where the DHCP had put the 
> computer... :-D

You should be able to find it pretty easily by pinging the broadcast
address.


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris Norman
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> From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: installing remotely
> 
> 
> > What would you type if you wanted to use dhcp?
> > 73s
> > Butch Bussen
> > wa0vjr
> >
> > On Sat, 11 Nov 2006,
> > Janina Sajka wrote:
> >
> >> This is mostly correct. One suggestion:
> >>
> >> Rather than ksdevice=eth0, use the mac address to be very certain telnet
> >> will talk to the device you intend:
> >>
> >> ksdevice=aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
> >>
> >> PS: The advice here references Fedora, none others.
> >>
> >> Tom Moore writes:
> >>> If my memory serves me right the instructions are:
> >>> At the boot prompt once you put the cd in the drive type:
> >>> Text telnet ksdev=/dev/eth0 ip=www.xxx.yyy.zzz netmask=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> >>> gateway=www.xxx.yyy.zzz
> >>> /dev/eth0 being the first network card in the machine that Fedora 
> >>> detects.
> >>> I believe you can use dhcp as well, but if you do that then you'll have 
> >>> to
> >>> hunt around for the machine to see what ip it was given by the dhcp 
> >>> server
> >>> so when I do an install like this I can always know where the machine 
> >>> is.
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> >>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> >>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:34 AM
> >>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >>> Cc: RadSurfer@yahoo.com
> >>> Subject: installing remotely
> >>>
> >>> I've seen references on thist occasionally on either using telnet or a
> >>> "serial console" to install from another machine.  What do I type at the
> >>> first prompt to do this?
> >>> I run an i r l p ham radio Linux box and have done four of these, but
> >>> always needed sighted help to do the initial install.  Once I get up and
> >>> running I can use my windows machine witha terminal program and winscp 
> >>> to
> >>> do what I need.  Hoping there is a way to do this without sighted help.
> >>> 73s
> >>> Butch Bussen
> >>> wa0vjr
> >>>
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re: linux programming

[Jude DaShiell]

users need access to the audio group for them to be able to use audio 
resources on linux systems.  Something like usermod <user> -G audio if I 
remember the command format correctly should solve that problem.