* packet sniffers
@ Jude DaShiell
` Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
>From reading I've done I've learned if you get one or more of these on
your system it's because your ethernet card is running in promiscuous mode
long enough for the packet sniffer to be installed. When you do something
like ifconfig eth0 -promisc up you're telling your ethernet card to only
listen for frames broadcast specifically to it and not to listen for any
other frames being broadcast to the left or right of your computer's
network connection. Unfortunately, the Linux default is to come up in
promiscuous mode when going onto the internet especially so with Debian.
If you get a packet sniffer the three things you can try from easiest to
hardest are: 1) install a network switch and replace any hubs with that
switch, 2) encrypt all internet connections including and especially
fetchmail, 3) do a complete system reinstall and arrange for encrypted
connections before going out onto the internet. I use a netup script:
#!/bin/sh poff dsl-provider ifconfig eth0 down ifconfig eth0 -promisc up
dhclient eth0 to go onto the internet anymore. The thing is I do the pon
dsl-provider back in my own user account so root isn't logged in. I can
do most of this now with the exception of a good .fetchmailrc file. I
have information on doing an encrypted connection with that but am going
to get some local linux help to make sure I'm translating it correctly for
my own needs. Once I get it working, I'll put the sanitized .fetchmailrc
file up on speakup for anyone else who needs it or may need it in the
future. Oh, the only ways I knew the packet sniffers were there was
because I had chkrootkit installed and running when it got installed and I
got the email describing the system compromise. Forewarned is forearmed.
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* Re: packet sniffers
packet sniffers Jude DaShiell
@ ` Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 01:43:15AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> When you do something
> like ifconfig eth0 -promisc up you're telling your ethernet card to only
> listen for frames broadcast specifically to it and not to listen for any
> other frames being broadcast to the left or right of your computer's
> network connection.
Quite the opposite is true actually. Putting the nic in promisc mode
tells it to listen for all packets on the network. Not putting the nic
into promisc mode tells it to just listen for packets meant for that
nic's IP address specifically.
> Unfortunately, the Linux default is to come up in
> promiscuous mode when going onto the internet especially so with Debian.
Wrong again. The gnu/linux default is to *not* bring up the interfaces
in promisc mode on startup. I've installed slackware, and debian on a
number of systems a number of times, and even installed gentoo
once. At no time did these installs result in bringing up the nics in
promisc mode at startup.
If what you're saying is actually what you've read, then I'd like to
have a look at the documents in question, so that I can either correct
my misinformation, or fire off an email to the authors responsible for
spreading such misinformation. Otherwise, I must conclude that you're
misinterpreting what you've read, in which case, it's no surprise to
me at all that you're dealing with packet sniffers and successful
cracking attempts on your system(s).
Greg
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* packet sniffers
@ Jude DaShiell
` Tyler Littlefield
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jude DaShiell @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I've had two different instances of them put on this system in the last 3
days. I know this because I have chkrootkit installed and I read the
email chkrootkit generates. The last install of packet sniffer didn't
take more than an hour to accomplish either. Other than removing dhclient
and reinstalling it and changing all passwords on the system what else
needs to be done to get a better control over this problem. I leave the
system on and logged into a user account only since I'm downloading
podcasts with it during the day while I'm away from the system.
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* Re: packet sniffers
Jude DaShiell
@ ` Tyler Littlefield
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
kill the users who are running them, and I don't mean just kill there
accounts, literally kill them. lol.
Later,
~~TheCreator~~
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 3:47 AM
Subject: packet sniffers
> I've had two different instances of them put on this system in the last 3
> days. I know this because I have chkrootkit installed and I read the
> email chkrootkit generates. The last install of packet sniffer didn't
> take more than an hour to accomplish either. Other than removing dhclient
> and reinstalling it and changing all passwords on the system what else
> needs to be done to get a better control over this problem. I leave the
> system on and logged into a user account only since I'm downloading
> podcasts with it during the day while I'm away from the system.
>
>
>
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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