Slight speech irregularity with grml

Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Jim Wantz]

Hi,
When I boot up GRML and I get speech working, I hear double keystrokes 
when I type the first two times after the prompt.  When I hit the 3rd 
keystroke, the first two characters are pronounced.  This behavior is 
exhibited with both software speech and  the Doubletalk lt.  I have no 
reason to think it wouldn't be the same with another hardware synthesizer 
like my Transport Classic.  I have tried the cheat codes of:
vga=15440, vga=15492 and vga=normal with no obvious results.  Has anyone 
solved this problem?  Hardly a show stopper, but its slightly irritating.
Thanks.

      Jim Wantz

Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, I think this is a shell issue, I've certainly seen it with ksh,
and didn't see it with bash. I can't say anything about other
shells. If the grml cd comes with bash, which it most likely does, try invoking that, and see if
the problem goes away.

Greg


On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 02:46:53PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> Hi,
> When I boot up GRML and I get speech working, I hear double keystrokes 
> when I type the first two times after the prompt.  When I hit the 3rd 
> keystroke, the first two characters are pronounced.  This behavior is 
> exhibited with both software speech and  the Doubletalk lt.  I have no 
> reason to think it wouldn't be the same with another hardware synthesizer 
> like my Transport Classic.  I have tried the cheat codes of:
> vga=15440, vga=15492 and vga=normal with no obvious results.  Has anyone 
> solved this problem?  Hardly a show stopper, but its slightly irritating.
> Thanks.
> 
>       Jim Wantz
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Jim Wantz]

Hi Greg,
I didn't even think to check what their default shell was--but something 
makes me think it might be zsh.  I am fairly sure that bash is included so 
I'll give it a whirl.

      Jim Wantz

Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Dan Murphy]

Unfortunately I can't go into details as to why, but as I am more 
comfortable with bash, I think the behavior has to do with the zsh 
shell, which is the grml default.
I simply went to bash and the problem went away.
I don't know what to tell you if you want to use zsh, though.
On Sat, 11 
Mar 2006, Jim 
Wantz wrote:

> Hi,
> When I boot up GRML and I get speech working, I hear double keystrokes
> when I type the first two times after the prompt.  When I hit the 3rd
> keystroke, the first two characters are pronounced.  This behavior is
> exhibited with both software speech and  the Doubletalk lt.  I have no
> reason to think it wouldn't be the same with another hardware synthesizer
> like my Transport Classic.  I have tried the cheat codes of:
> vga=15440, vga=15492 and vga=normal with no obvious results.  Has anyone
> solved this problem?  Hardly a show stopper, but its slightly irritating.
> Thanks.
>
>      Jim Wantz
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Garrett Klein]

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The pertinant option is, I believe, setopt singlelinezle. HTH.

Garrett

On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 05:54:00PM -0500, Dan Murphy wrote:
> Unfortunately I can't go into details as to why, but as I am more 
> comfortable with bash, I think the behavior has to do with the zsh 
> shell, which is the grml default.
> I simply went to bash and the problem went away.
> I don't know what to tell you if you want to use zsh, though.
> On Sat, 11 
> Mar 2006, Jim 
> Wantz wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > When I boot up GRML and I get speech working, I hear double keystrokes
> > when I type the first two times after the prompt.  When I hit the 3rd
> > keystroke, the first two characters are pronounced.  This behavior is
> > exhibited with both software speech and  the Doubletalk lt.  I have no
> > reason to think it wouldn't be the same with another hardware synthesizer
> > like my Transport Classic.  I have tried the cheat codes of:
> > vga=15440, vga=15492 and vga=normal with no obvious results.  Has anyone
> > solved this problem?  Hardly a show stopper, but its slightly irritating.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >      Jim Wantz
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Tyler Spivey]

The problem you're having is zsh. This turned me off of the shell, until
I found:
setopt singlelinezle
which fixed the problem. I've been using zsh ever since. In the debian
version (4.3 or something) you also need:
unsetopt prompt_cr
or else the shell will write a percent or a number sign, delete it, and
print the prompt (which speakup will, if course, read).
also, grml does some weird things with the prompt, using ansi color or
the like, so
export PS1='%m%# ' should do the trick.
If I could get grml to boot off my usb stick, I'd put all that in a
config file. I don't want to cary around a floppy, though, so that won't
work for the cd. It'll boot off the stick, but the kernel takes 2
minutes to load, then grml another 2.
Hope this helps, and if you have any other zsh questions, I'll try to
help.

Here is my .zshrc file. Under Arch (the distro I'm using now) prompt_cr
doesn't need to be unset because it's using zsh 4.2, or something to do
with the terminal, not sure.

#unsetopt prompt_cr
export PS1='%m%# '
autoload -U zmv
export PATH=$PATH:/home/tyler/bin:/usr/local/bin:/home/tyler/cdrutils
setopt singlelinezle autocd
setopt menucomplete 
unsetopt listbeep autolist
source ~/.zshalias
bindkey    "^[[3~"          delete-char
bindkey    "^[3;5~"         delete-char
	bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line
	bindkey "\e[4~" end-of-line

Re: Slight speech irregularity with grml

[Michael Prokop]

* Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

> The problem you're having is zsh. This turned me off of the shell, until
> I found:
> setopt singlelinezle
> which fixed the problem. I've been using zsh ever since. In the debian
> version (4.3 or something) you also need:
> unsetopt prompt_cr
> or else the shell will write a percent or a number sign, delete it, and
> print the prompt (which speakup will, if course, read).
> also, grml does some weird things with the prompt, using ansi color or
> the like, so
> export PS1='%m%# ' should do the trick.

Thanks for reporting this issue. I'll take a closer look at it.
I'd be glad if you report such issues to me or other grml-developers
so we can fix it and other users don't have to debug it on their
own. ;)

> If I could get grml to boot off my usb stick, I'd put all that in a
> config file. I don't want to cary around a floppy, though, so that won't
> work for the cd. It'll boot off the stick, but the kernel takes 2
> minutes to load, then grml another 2.

JFYI: You don't have to boot from USB to use your own configuration
files.  Take a look at the powerful config-framework:
http://grml.org/config/

regards,
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