* Mutt Questions @ ace ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: ace @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello all, I was reading the Mutt user manual this morning and am noticing that some of the variables it discusses for the config file do not work. These include editheaders and fastreply. Could this be because I am using the latest CVS checkout and the manual has not yet been updated to reflect some updates? Also, I am using Nano as my email editor, if that makes a difference. I get config parsing errors when starting Mutt with those options, so I doubt my choice of editor is relevant. How does one go about getting a GPG key to encrypt email messages? Does Mutt have an address book so that I do not have to type full addresses each time I compose a message? I tried reading the manual but, as stated above, not all of its information seems to be accurate. Thanks all, Robby ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt Questions Mutt Questions ace @ ` Gregory Nowak ` ace 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In order to know how to use gpg, and how to create your own key, I'd recommend reading the gpg handbook (the gph), which you can find at http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/guides.html#gph . As for specifically using gnupg with mutt, I found this howto to be useful: http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto . Greg On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:32:22AM -0500, ace wrote: > Hello all, > > I was reading the Mutt user manual this morning and am noticing that > some of the variables it discusses for the config file do not work. > These include editheaders and fastreply. Could this be because I am > using the latest CVS checkout and the manual has not yet been updated to > reflect some updates? Also, I am using Nano as my email editor, if that > makes a difference. I get config parsing errors when starting Mutt with > those options, so I doubt my choice of editor is relevant. > > How does one go about getting a GPG key to encrypt email messages? > Does Mutt have an address book so that I do not have to type full > addresses each time I compose a message? > > I tried reading the manual but, as stated above, not all of its > information seems to be accurate. > > Thanks all, > Robby > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFECdIr7s9z/XlyUyARAjwwAKDUcM9KambdXLNGyNUuI61qJWaevACghrVm 7CoKknWSAFzw2iSicKMIXvk= =H6PM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt Questions ` Gregory Nowak @ ` ace ` Gregory Nowak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: ace @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. OK, now I'm pissed. It told me to do --gen-revoke to get a public certificate file and I did so. Now it says that my key is revoked! What did I do wrong here? I have a revoke.asc file. Thanks, Robby On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 10:45:15AM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > In order to know how to use gpg, and how to create your own key, I'd > recommend reading the gpg handbook (the gph), which you can find at > > http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/guides.html#gph > > . As for specifically using gnupg with mutt, I found this howto to be > useful: > > http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto > > . > > Greg > > > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 11:32:22AM -0500, ace wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I was reading the Mutt user manual this morning and am noticing that > > some of the variables it discusses for the config file do not work. > > These include editheaders and fastreply. Could this be because I am > > using the latest CVS checkout and the manual has not yet been updated to > > reflect some updates? Also, I am using Nano as my email editor, if that > > makes a difference. I get config parsing errors when starting Mutt with > > those options, so I doubt my choice of editor is relevant. > > > > How does one go about getting a GPG key to encrypt email messages? > > Does Mutt have an address book so that I do not have to type full > > addresses each time I compose a message? > > > > I tried reading the manual but, as stated above, not all of its > > information seems to be accurate. > > > > Thanks all, > > Robby > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFECdIr7s9z/XlyUyARAjwwAKDUcM9KambdXLNGyNUuI61qJWaevACghrVm > 7CoKknWSAFzw2iSicKMIXvk= > =H6PM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt Questions ` ace @ ` Gregory Nowak ` ace 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ok. The revocation stuff is only in the event that you lose your private key, and you need to revoke your old public key. So, you would then use the revoke.asc file to do that, without needing to know the password for your private key. Most likely, you didn't do any damage, if you were following the instructions exactly. If however, you view the info for your public key, and it actually tells you that this particular key is revoked, then you're screwed, create a new key in that case, and be more careful next time. Greg P.S. Actually, if you didn't publish your public key to a key server after it told you the key is revoked, then you're not really screwed. If I'm correct, you should just be able to wipe your old key from your keyring, and create it again. On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 03:15:33PM -0500, ace wrote: > OK, now I'm pissed. It told me to do --gen-revoke to get a public > certificate file and I did so. Now it says that my key is revoked! > What did I do wrong here? I have a revoke.asc file. > > Thanks, > Robby - -- web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc skype: gregn1 (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFECgKm7s9z/XlyUyARAp+VAKCMbb5n0AoiTQwgPOsI99ufCBWZggCfWqsg qRZVYbBVqIekPGWAVo0W17w= =vGLP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: Mutt Questions ` Gregory Nowak @ ` ace 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: ace @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Well, I recreated it. I am able to encrypt files and everythign now. I just need to publish it to a server and set Mutt up to work with it. On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ok. The revocation stuff is only in the event that you lose your > private key, and you need to revoke your old public key. So, you would > then use the revoke.asc file to do that, without needing to know the password > for your private key. Most likely, you didn't do any damage, if you > were following the instructions exactly. If however, you view the info > for your public key, and it actually tells you that this particular > key is revoked, then you're screwed, create a new key in that case, > and be more careful next time. > > Greg > > P.S. Actually, if you didn't publish your public key to a key server > after it told you the key is revoked, then you're not really > screwed. If I'm correct, you should just be able to wipe your old key > from your keyring, and create it again. > > > > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 03:15:33PM -0500, ace wrote: > > OK, now I'm pissed. It told me to do --gen-revoke to get a public > > certificate file and I did so. Now it says that my key is revoked! > > What did I do wrong here? I have a revoke.asc file. > > > > Thanks, > > Robby > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFECgKm7s9z/XlyUyARAp+VAKCMbb5n0AoiTQwgPOsI99ufCBWZggCfWqsg > qRZVYbBVqIekPGWAVo0W17w= > =vGLP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* mutt questions @ Sergey Fleytin ` Thomas Stivers 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Sergey Fleytin @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all! I have i question about mutt. I just made it running but i am wondering if it has a feature like "roles" in pine. My problem is that i have several mail accounts and am subscribed to some mailings list from those accounts. So when i write to a particular list, my 'from' header should contain the very address i was subscribing to the list from. As i mentioned above, pine has ability to handle this situation but by some reason i am interested in using mutt. So, if anyone can give me some advice concerning solving that problem in mutt, it will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Sergey. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions mutt questions Sergey Fleytin @ ` Thomas Stivers 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Thomas Stivers @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/03 9:10 PM +0300, Sergey Fleytin wrote: > Hi all! I have i question about mutt. I just made it running but i am > wondering if it has a feature like "roles" in pine. My problem is that > i have several mail accounts and am subscribed to some mailings list > from those accounts. So when i write to a particular list, my 'from' > header should contain the very address i was subscribing to the list > from. As i mentioned above, pine has ability to handle this situation > but by some reason i am interested in using mutt. So, if anyone can > give me some advice concerning solving that problem in mutt, it will > be highly appreciated. > Thanks in advance, It doesn't have rolls pers?, but it does have various kinds of hooks which can do what you want. Here is an example of what you mentioned above. send-hook . my_hdr From: user@domain # set the address for most messages sen-_hook speakup my_hdr From: user+speakup@domain # the address from #which you are subscribed. It is a lot more complicated than this, but you can figure it out fairly easily. This question is asked almost weekly on the mutt-users@mutt.org mailing list so you can look in its archives for all the responses. Be warned that that list is quite likely to tell you to RTFM, so you may want to do so. Good luck and happy mutting. - -- Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more carefully than others. Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/1N0d5JK61UXLur0RAkYAAJ47LKxi21mxwobb0OhbF/+11s1UJwCfbuUH k6vyDRe9HlKrUn6llfuTaus= =n9js -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* mutt questions @ Alex Snow ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi All, I'm thinking of switching to mutt for a mail client. I have one question: how can I turn off some of the headers displayed in the pager while viewing messages? I would like to disable showing of headers I dont care about like return-path, message-id, x-flags, etc etc. Is there any way to do this? Thanks! -- A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions Alex Snow @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Lorenzo Prince 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. You use ignore statments in your .muttrc file. If you put a line like ignore * mutt will weed out all headers. You can also tell mutt to ignore specific headers by listing them. This info is documented in the manual as well as the .muttrc file. The .muttrc file is in the user's home directory. On my Debian system, the system wide config file is /etc/Muttrc Note: Since Unix is case sensitive check this message carefully for correct file names. Kenny > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:00:33PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote: > Hi All, > I'm thinking of switching to mutt for a mail client. I have one question: > how can I turn off some of the headers displayed in the pager while > viewing messages? I would like to disable showing of headers I dont care > about like return-path, message-id, x-flags, etc etc. Is there any way to > do this? > Thanks! > > -- > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Lorenzo Prince ` Shaun Oliver ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Lorenzo Prince @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Does Mutt have a way to change the "from" header? I am collecting mail from a remote mailserver, and I need to change the "from" header to reflect the address of the box where the message came from when replying. Lorenzo E Pluribus Unix Kenny Hitt staggered into view and mumbled: > Hi. You use ignore statments in your .muttrc file. If you put a line > like > > ignore * > mutt will weed out all headers. You can also tell mutt to ignore > specific headers by listing them. This info is documented in the manual > as well as the .muttrc file. The .muttrc file is in the user's home > directory. On my Debian system, the system wide config file is > /etc/Muttrc > > Note: Since Unix is case sensitive check this message carefully for > correct file names. > Kenny > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:00:33PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm thinking of switching to mutt for a mail client. I have one question: > > how can I turn off some of the headers displayed in the pager while > > viewing messages? I would like to disable showing of headers I dont care > > about like return-path, message-id, x-flags, etc etc. Is there any way to > > do this? > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Lorenzo Prince @ ` Shaun Oliver ` Kenny Hitt ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Shaun Oliver @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup ok, to change the header you would use something like my_hdr From: xxx xxx@y.z here's a complete copy of my .muttrc file for your benifit set help=no ignore * unignore To Date From: Subject Reply-To X-Operating-System X-Useless-Header my_hdr From: Shaun Oliver <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au> my_hdr X-Useless-Header: Look ma, it's a \# sign! my_hdr X-Operating-System: `uname -a` hdr_order Date From: subject to cc Reply-To X-Useless-Header X-Operating-System -- Shaun Oliver "Before I knew the best part of my life had come, it had gone." EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: blindman_2001@hotmail.com AIM: captain nemo 200 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Lorenzo Prince ` Shaun Oliver @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. It's documented in the manual and the Muttrc file. You aren't really clear on what you are trying to do. You might not need to change anything in mutt, but change an option in your mta. Kenny On Sat, Apr 12, 2003 at 01:32:40AM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote: > Does Mutt have a way to change the "from" header? I am collecting mail > from a remote mailserver, and I need to change the "from" header to > reflect the address of the box where the message came from when replying. > > Lorenzo > > E Pluribus Unix ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Lorenzo Prince ` Shaun Oliver ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Try the domain var in the .muttrc file. a good example .muttrc is at www.dotfiles.com -- A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 1:32 AM Subject: Re: mutt questions > Does Mutt have a way to change the "from" header? I am collecting mail > from a remote mailserver, and I need to change the "from" header to > reflect the address of the box where the message came from when replying. > > Lorenzo > > E Pluribus Unix > > Kenny Hitt staggered into view and mumbled: > > > Hi. You use ignore statments in your .muttrc file. If you put a line > > like > > > > ignore * > > mutt will weed out all headers. You can also tell mutt to ignore > > specific headers by listing them. This info is documented in the manual > > as well as the .muttrc file. The .muttrc file is in the user's home > > directory. On my Debian system, the system wide config file is > > /etc/Muttrc > > > > Note: Since Unix is case sensitive check this message carefully for > > correct file names. > > Kenny > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2003 at 10:00:33PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > I'm thinking of switching to mutt for a mail client. I have one question: > > > how can I turn off some of the headers displayed in the pager while > > > viewing messages? I would like to disable showing of headers I dont care > > > about like return-path, message-id, x-flags, etc etc. Is there any way to > > > do this? > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > > > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* mutt questions
@ Janina Sajka
` Gregory Nowak
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation:
1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full
index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does?
2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing
a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way.
Thanks in advance.
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread* Re: mutt questions Janina Sajka @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Janina Sajka ` Steve Holmes ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Janina. This may not be the best way, but it works for me. When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. Greg On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes, Greg, this works if I know I'm going to abort before saving the message body in a tmp file. But, what about after that? In fact, this just happened to me. I was replying to your message, saved the tmp file , and pressed y to send. Mutt replied "no recipients specified." Well, excuse me, but I had used the reply command, so I don't understand why it would have lost that data. There are other ways and times in which I want to abort after writing the tmp file, but postponing seems to be the only option. Gregory Nowak writes: > From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > Hi Janina. > > This may not be the best way, but it works for me. > > When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. > Greg > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Janina Sajka @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Kenny Hitt ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. Control-g usually cancels most things in mutt. Kenny On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:49:38PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Yes, Greg, this works if I know I'm going to abort before saving the message body in a tmp file. But, what about after that? > > In fact, this just happened to me. I was replying to your message, saved the tmp file , and pressed y to send. Mutt replied "no recipients specified." > Well, excuse me, but I had used the reply command, so I don't understand why it would have lost that data. > > There are other ways and times in which I want to abort after writing the tmp file, but postponing seems to be the only option. > > Gregory Nowak writes: > > From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > > > Hi Janina. > > > > This may not be the best way, but it works for me. > > > > When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. > > Greg > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Gregory Nowak ` Steve Holmes 3 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Oopse, should have tested before I sent my last message. In most cases, using control-g will cancel the current command. In the example you give, you will have to use q to quit. Sorry about that. Kenny On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:49:38PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Yes, Greg, this works if I know I'm going to abort before saving the message body in a tmp file. But, what about after that? > > In fact, this just happened to me. I was replying to your message, saved the tmp file , and pressed y to send. Mutt replied "no recipients specified." > Well, excuse me, but I had used the reply command, so I don't understand why it would have lost that data. > > There are other ways and times in which I want to abort after writing the tmp file, but postponing seems to be the only option. > > Gregory Nowak writes: > > From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > > > Hi Janina. > > > > This may not be the best way, but it works for me. > > > > When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. > > Greg > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Janina Sajka ` Kenny Hitt ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Steve Holmes 3 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hmmm, in my 2 years or so of using mutt, I've never had what you describe happen. Greg On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:49:38PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Yes, Greg, this works if I know I'm going to abort before saving the message body in a tmp file. But, what about after that? > > In fact, this just happened to me. I was replying to your message, saved the tmp file , and pressed y to send. Mutt replied "no recipients specified." > Well, excuse me, but I had used the reply command, so I don't understand why it would have lost that data. > > There are other ways and times in which I want to abort after writing the tmp file, but postponing seems to be the only option. > > Gregory Nowak writes: > > From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > > > Hi Janina. > > > > This may not be the best way, but it works for me. > > > > When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. > > Greg > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Janina Sajka ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Steve Holmes ` Tommy Moore 3 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Even after saving the temporary file from emacs, I can still type 'q' instead of 'y' to cancel the message. Your error about missing address sounds strange to me. Can't say I'ver had that one happen to me. On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:49:38PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > Yes, Greg, this works if I know I'm going to abort before saving the message body in a tmp file. But, what about after that? > > In fact, this just happened to me. I was replying to your message, saved the tmp file , and pressed y to send. Mutt replied "no recipients specified." > Well, excuse me, but I had used the reply command, so I don't understand why it would have lost that data. > > There are other ways and times in which I want to abort after writing the tmp file, but postponing seems to be the only option. > > Gregory Nowak writes: > > From: Gregory Nowak <greg@romuald.net.eu.org> > > > > Hi Janina. > > > > This may not be the best way, but it works for me. > > > > When you decide that you don't want to send a message, exit the editor. It will ask you if you want to send, hit q. It will ask you if you want to postpone it, hit n, and it will throw it away. The only advantage to this method seems to be that you won't end up with a postponed file in your home dir. Hth. > > Greg > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Steve Holmes @ ` Tommy Moore ` ccrawford ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. Tommy ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Tommy Moore @ ` ccrawford ` Steve Holmes ` Tommy Moore ` Steve Holmes ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: ccrawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what features it has over pine. -- charlie. On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > Tommy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` ccrawford @ ` Steve Holmes ` Tommy Moore 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Configuring mutt is harder than pine but once your're done doing that, I can list some advantages: No more of those character set warnings when you aren't using the same character set as the original sender. I find it easier to skip around attachments. One thing I really like is being able to skip around previously quoted stuff in messages; If I get a message that has all the old stuff first and their reply at the end, I just hit 'S' - that's capital S, mutt puts the cursor on the first line of unquoted text. If there is more quoted text, you can hit the 'S' key again and it skips to the next block of unquoted text, and so on. I especially like this feature. In some respects, it may be more powerful and configurable than pine even though one has to edit a config file instead of menus like pine. On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 06:58:00AM -0400, ccrawford@acb.org wrote: > So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what > features it has over pine. > > -- charlie. > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` ccrawford ` Steve Holmes @ ` Tommy Moore ` Steve Holmes ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Tommy Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I like the idea that gpg works really nice with mutt out of the box so that's why I'd like to move just as long as I cna keep my current mail archive and be able to have the addressbook and everything. Tommy On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 ccrawford@acb.org wrote: > So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what > features it has over pine. > > -- charlie. > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Tommy Moore @ ` Steve Holmes ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup to get pine's address book into mutt, a simple conversion will be necessary. They are both text files but pine's has more fields in it. A simple perl script should do the job nicely. On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:06:55AM -0400, Tommy Moore wrote: > I like the idea that gpg works really nice with mutt out of the box so > that's why I'd like to move just as long as I cna keep my current mail > archive and be able to have the addressbook and everything. > > Tommy > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 ccrawford@acb.org wrote: > > > So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what > > features it has over pine. > > > > -- charlie. > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Tommy Moore ` Steve Holmes @ ` Igor Gueths ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Can pine be configured to use gpg? I know it can use pgp bc I saw a package for the plugin. I guess I'll have to take a look at the config settings and see if I can find something. microsoft dialogue This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux close button On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > I like the idea that gpg works really nice with mutt out of the box so > that's why I'd like to move just as long as I cna keep my current mail > archive and be able to have the addressbook and everything. > > Tommy > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 ccrawford@acb.org wrote: > > > So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what > > features it has over pine. > > > > -- charlie. > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Igor Gueths @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Check the gpg docs, and I'd also be interested in this since I'm using gpg. Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm sick of Winblows! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:10 PM Subject: Re: mutt questions > Can pine be configured to use gpg? I know it can use pgp bc I saw a > package for the plugin. I guess I'll have to take a look at the config > settings and see if I can find something. > > microsoft dialogue > This company has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. > If the problem persists, delete winblows and install linux > close button > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > I like the idea that gpg works really nice with mutt out of the box so > > that's why I'd like to move just as long as I cna keep my current mail > > archive and be able to have the addressbook and everything. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 ccrawford@acb.org wrote: > > > > > So what is the attraction to Mutt? I guess I have not heard what > > > features it has over pine. > > > > > > -- charlie. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Tommy Moore wrote: > > > > > > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Tommy Moore ` ccrawford @ ` Steve Holmes ` Alex Snow ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hey I converted from pine to mutt some while back and mutt reads them fine. What I actually did was set up mutt to access the old pine folders via imap since I use different machines to access my mail. I generally work on two machines separate from the mail server and they used to use pine - now using mutt. Just read the HTML manual that comes with mutt over and over if necessary to understand the variables that control the options you would be interested in and go for it. The IMAP folders are accessed by putting a plus sign (+) in front of the name of the folder. Feel free to ask more questions if you need to. Note that .muttrc file will be your friend:). On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 02:20:54AM -0400, Tommy Moore wrote: > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > Tommy > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Steve Holmes @ ` Alex Snow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yeah mutt isn't really that hard to configure. If you want I can send my .muttrc file Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll. I'm sick of Winblows! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:38 AM Subject: Re: mutt questions > Hey I converted from pine to mutt some while back and mutt reads them > fine. What I actually did was set up mutt to access the old pine > folders via imap since I use different machines to access my mail. I > generally work on two machines separate from the mail server and they > used to use pine - now using mutt. Just read the HTML manual that > comes with mutt over and over if necessary to understand the variables > that control the options you would be interested in and go for it. > The IMAP folders are accessed by putting a plus sign (+) in front of > the name of the folder. > > Feel free to ask more questions if you need to. Note that .muttrc > file will be your friend:). > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 02:20:54AM -0400, Tommy Moore wrote: > > Hi guys. I'm considering switching to mutt. Question I have is how do I > > convert all my mail solders from pine so that I can read the in mutt. > > Have lots and lots of messages that I'd still like to be able to read. > > > > Tommy > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Tommy Moore ` ccrawford ` Steve Holmes @ ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Doug Lawlor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup If Pine writes messages in mbox format you should have no problems. In mutt just type 'c' to change to a new mailbox and give the path to the mailbox file you are interested in. Doug -- Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Doug Lawlor <dlawlor@roadrunner.nf.net> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions Janina Sajka ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Steve Holmes ` Janina Sajka ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I don't know the answer to #1 below, but for #2 let me tell you what I do. I have emacs configured as my editor of choice so if I manage to get as far as typing a part of the message, I go ahead and exit out of emacs with the c-x c-c keys and it doesn't really matter if I answer yes or no to save the edited file. I then am sitting at the mail menu screen where I would usually type 'y' to send the message; here to cancel, I just type 'q' instead. I think if I remember right, I am asked if I want to postpone the thing and I usually say no to that one. Now another point of cancelation, if I go into the editor and don't type anything at all and want to cancel out, merely dumping out of the editor results in no new file to send and I am immediately dumpped out of the mail composition screen. Hope I got this all right. I'm too lazy at this moment to cancel out of this one to be sure:). On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Steve Holmes @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I'll try that q for quit. Not elegant, but if it works ... Steve Holmes writes: > From: Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com> > > I don't know the answer to #1 below, but for #2 let me tell you what I > do. > > I have emacs configured as my editor of choice so if I manage to get > as far as typing a part of the message, I go ahead and exit out of > emacs with the c-x c-c keys and it doesn't really matter if I answer > yes or no to save the edited file. I then am sitting at the mail menu > screen where I would usually type 'y' to send the message; here to > cancel, I just type 'q' instead. I think if I remember right, I am > asked if I want to postpone the thing and I usually say no to that > one. Now another point of cancelation, if I go into the editor and > don't type anything at all and want to cancel out, merely dumping out > of the editor results in no new file to send and I am immediately > dumpped out of the mail composition screen. > > Hope I got this all right. I'm too lazy at this moment to cancel out > of this one to be sure:). > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 04:54:58PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > I've been working in mutt recently. I have a few questions for which I have been unable to find answers in the documentation: > > > > 1.) Unsorting--or whatever it may be called--When I restrict my view using a semi-colon search, how do I undo it in order to return to the full > > index listing? Ctrl-t doesn't do it. What does? > > > > 2.) If I start to compose a message, or start to forward one, how can I change my mind and abort the procedure? I find I'm unable to exit composing > > a message. I am hacking around this problem by using capital P for postpone, but this surely isn't the proper way. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions Janina Sajka ` Gregory Nowak ` Steve Holmes @ ` Doug Lawlor ` Doug Lawlor 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Doug Lawlor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup To get out of a message you don't want to send just exit the editor and press 'q' to quit. If you are asked if you want to postpone the message (you can change this I believe in your .mutrc file) just say 'n' and you will be aborted. Doug -- Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Doug Lawlor <dlawlor@roadrunner.nf.net> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: mutt questions ` Doug Lawlor @ ` Doug Lawlor 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Doug Lawlor @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup To change weather or not Mutt askes you if you want to postpone a message just set postpone=no in your .muttrc file. When you do this and press 'q' to cancel a message you will see a message something like 'Mail not sent' and you will be returned to the message you were viewing. Pressing capitle P will still postpone your message if you want to do so. Doug -- Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Doug Lawlor <dlawlor@roadrunner.nf.net> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
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