* looking for backup suggestions
@ Gregory Nowak
` Ameer Armaly
` Charles Hallenbeck
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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Hi all.
There are a good number of backup utilities out there, but none of the
ones I've found so far seem to be able to do what I'm looking for. So,
I thought I'd post what I'm looking for here, in the hope that someone
may know of something that I haven't stumbled across yet.
I'm looking for something that will create a list of all the packages
installed on my debian system, and put the list of installed packages,
along with any modified configuration files from the original debian
config files into a tar.bz2 file, which would then be uploaded to a
system via rsync over ssh, and then be compared to the file already on
the rsync system every 24 hours let's say.
The point here being that I could install a basic debian system onto a
empty box/drive, and have the backup utility fetch the tar archive
from the rsync system, install any packages that were installed on the
backed up system, but aren't installed yet on the new system, and copy
over the configuration files, thus giving me essentially the same
debian system as the one of which the backup was made.
Failing that, does anyone know of a utility that could archive a
mounted file system, with the exception of some directories into a
tar.bz2 file, and upload that to a rsync server over ssh? Then, say
every 24 hours or so, the program would make a new tar.bz2 archive,
and use rsync again to synchronize the differences between the 2
archives. When I say with the exception of some directories, I mean
that if for example /dev/hda2 was mounted on /mnt, I would want it
excluded out of the hda1 archive, which would be mounted under /. So
in short, every directory except /mnt would be archived in this
example.
In either case, I'm looking for something that will place most of the
burden on the machine being backed up, and will place no additional
burden (other then transferring the archive) on the rsync server. In
other words, I'm looking for all the cpu intensive stuff to be done on
the machine that's being backed up or restored.
If nothing like what I'm looking for exists, I might put together
something myself, but I didn't want to have to reinvent the wheel. I
also hope that this makes sense.
Greg
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* Re: looking for backup suggestions
looking for backup suggestions Gregory Nowak
@ ` Ameer Armaly
` Gregory Nowak
` tyler
` Charles Hallenbeck
1 sibling, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ameer Armaly @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I haven't heard of anything like what you're looking for, but would be glad
to help in the development of such a program.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: looking for backup suggestions
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> Hi all.
>
> There are a good number of backup utilities out there, but none of the
> ones I've found so far seem to be able to do what I'm looking for. So,
> I thought I'd post what I'm looking for here, in the hope that someone
> may know of something that I haven't stumbled across yet.
>
> I'm looking for something that will create a list of all the packages
> installed on my debian system, and put the list of installed packages,
> along with any modified configuration files from the original debian
> config files into a tar.bz2 file, which would then be uploaded to a
> system via rsync over ssh, and then be compared to the file already on
> the rsync system every 24 hours let's say.
>
> The point here being that I could install a basic debian system onto a
> empty box/drive, and have the backup utility fetch the tar archive
> from the rsync system, install any packages that were installed on the
> backed up system, but aren't installed yet on the new system, and copy
> over the configuration files, thus giving me essentially the same
> debian system as the one of which the backup was made.
>
> Failing that, does anyone know of a utility that could archive a
> mounted file system, with the exception of some directories into a
> tar.bz2 file, and upload that to a rsync server over ssh? Then, say
> every 24 hours or so, the program would make a new tar.bz2 archive,
> and use rsync again to synchronize the differences between the 2
> archives. When I say with the exception of some directories, I mean
> that if for example /dev/hda2 was mounted on /mnt, I would want it
> excluded out of the hda1 archive, which would be mounted under /. So
> in short, every directory except /mnt would be archived in this
> example.
>
> In either case, I'm looking for something that will place most of the
> burden on the machine being backed up, and will place no additional
> burden (other then transferring the archive) on the rsync server. In
> other words, I'm looking for all the cpu intensive stuff to be done on
> the machine that's being backed up or restored.
>
> If nothing like what I'm looking for exists, I might put together
> something myself, but I didn't want to have to reinvent the wheel. I
> also hope that this makes sense.
>
> Greg
>
>
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` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` tyler
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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If I ever start work on it, I'll certainly let you know. It does look
possible to do, and you could effectively backup a gigabyte-sized
debian system (and maybe other distros) in a few hundred megs or less.
Greg
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 08:51:56PM -0500, Ameer Armaly wrote:
> I haven't heard of anything like what you're looking for, but would be glad
> to help in the development of such a program.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:03 PM
> Subject: looking for backup suggestions
>
>
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> >Hi all.
> >
> >There are a good number of backup utilities out there, but none of the
> >ones I've found so far seem to be able to do what I'm looking for. So,
> >I thought I'd post what I'm looking for here, in the hope that someone
> >may know of something that I haven't stumbled across yet.
> >
> >I'm looking for something that will create a list of all the packages
> >installed on my debian system, and put the list of installed packages,
> >along with any modified configuration files from the original debian
> >config files into a tar.bz2 file, which would then be uploaded to a
> >system via rsync over ssh, and then be compared to the file already on
> >the rsync system every 24 hours let's say.
> >
> >The point here being that I could install a basic debian system onto a
> >empty box/drive, and have the backup utility fetch the tar archive
> >from the rsync system, install any packages that were installed on the
> >backed up system, but aren't installed yet on the new system, and copy
> >over the configuration files, thus giving me essentially the same
> >debian system as the one of which the backup was made.
> >
> >Failing that, does anyone know of a utility that could archive a
> >mounted file system, with the exception of some directories into a
> >tar.bz2 file, and upload that to a rsync server over ssh? Then, say
> >every 24 hours or so, the program would make a new tar.bz2 archive,
> >and use rsync again to synchronize the differences between the 2
> >archives. When I say with the exception of some directories, I mean
> >that if for example /dev/hda2 was mounted on /mnt, I would want it
> >excluded out of the hda1 archive, which would be mounted under /. So
> >in short, every directory except /mnt would be archived in this
> >example.
> >
> >In either case, I'm looking for something that will place most of the
> >burden on the machine being backed up, and will place no additional
> >burden (other then transferring the archive) on the rsync server. In
> >other words, I'm looking for all the cpu intensive stuff to be done on
> >the machine that's being backed up or restored.
> >
> >If nothing like what I'm looking for exists, I might put together
> >something myself, but I didn't want to have to reinvent the wheel. I
> >also hope that this makes sense.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread* Re: looking for backup suggestions
` Ameer Armaly
` Gregory Nowak
@ ` tyler
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From: tyler @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
count me in as well. I could use the experience, and it would be kind of
fun.
Tyler Littlefield.
Check out our website:
http://tysplace.the-leetest.net
check out my blog:
livejournal.com/~tylerrl
[my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features]
[failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!]
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From: "Ameer Armaly" <ameerarmaly@bellsouth.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: looking for backup suggestions
>I haven't heard of anything like what you're looking for, but would be glad
>to help in the development of such a program.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:03 PM
> Subject: looking for backup suggestions
>
>
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>> Hi all.
>>
>> There are a good number of backup utilities out there, but none of the
>> ones I've found so far seem to be able to do what I'm looking for. So,
>> I thought I'd post what I'm looking for here, in the hope that someone
>> may know of something that I haven't stumbled across yet.
>>
>> I'm looking for something that will create a list of all the packages
>> installed on my debian system, and put the list of installed packages,
>> along with any modified configuration files from the original debian
>> config files into a tar.bz2 file, which would then be uploaded to a
>> system via rsync over ssh, and then be compared to the file already on
>> the rsync system every 24 hours let's say.
>>
>> The point here being that I could install a basic debian system onto a
>> empty box/drive, and have the backup utility fetch the tar archive
>> from the rsync system, install any packages that were installed on the
>> backed up system, but aren't installed yet on the new system, and copy
>> over the configuration files, thus giving me essentially the same
>> debian system as the one of which the backup was made.
>>
>> Failing that, does anyone know of a utility that could archive a
>> mounted file system, with the exception of some directories into a
>> tar.bz2 file, and upload that to a rsync server over ssh? Then, say
>> every 24 hours or so, the program would make a new tar.bz2 archive,
>> and use rsync again to synchronize the differences between the 2
>> archives. When I say with the exception of some directories, I mean
>> that if for example /dev/hda2 was mounted on /mnt, I would want it
>> excluded out of the hda1 archive, which would be mounted under /. So
>> in short, every directory except /mnt would be archived in this
>> example.
>>
>> In either case, I'm looking for something that will place most of the
>> burden on the machine being backed up, and will place no additional
>> burden (other then transferring the archive) on the rsync server. In
>> other words, I'm looking for all the cpu intensive stuff to be done on
>> the machine that's being backed up or restored.
>>
>> If nothing like what I'm looking for exists, I might put together
>> something myself, but I didn't want to have to reinvent the wheel. I
>> also hope that this makes sense.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
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>> gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc
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>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first)
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* Re: looking for backup suggestions
looking for backup suggestions Gregory Nowak
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Charles Hallenbeck
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From: Charles Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Greg,
If you need a beta tester, I would volunteer. That would have been on my
Christmas list if I had thought of it.
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But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh
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