* Problem installing Debian
@ Debee Norling
` Willem van der Walt
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I haven't posted in a while, but I've been reading the list off and on. I
finally got tired of fighting package dependencies with slackware and
decided to try Debian.
I downloaded the latest speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso from
http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/.
The Dell laptop I'm using is unable to boot directly from a CD, but runs
NetBSD fine. (When I installed NetBSD I was able to boot CD drivers from a
floppy and then access the CD without a problem.)
I put in the boot disk and type
linux speakup_synth=bns
There is no speakup target; I had my husband read the screen to confirm.
and it boots, prompts for root and CD driver disks fine but doesn't speak.
The install starts to run, asking you to select your keyboard so we know the
floppies are OK. I created them from the CD's /install/floppy images.
It looks like there isn't a speakup kernel on these floppies. The above URL
used to contain the Debian access floppies which were speakup-enabled, but
only contains CD ISOS now, so I presumed that the correct floppy images
would be on the CD.
This little laptop has only 2GB of hard drive and 32MB of RAM so it isn't
suitable for a bountiful distro. My only issue with NetBSD was that I had to
access everything with a terminal and missed speakup. I do have to say
though that NetBSD is very thrifty with memory and disk space and feels like
an old-fashioned UNIX! But I'd like to get Debian running on this little
beastie.
Any thoughts?
--Debee
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* Re: Problem installing Debian Problem installing Debian Debee Norling @ ` Willem van der Walt ` Kenny Hitt ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Willem van der Walt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: debee, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. If you have sighted assistence, I would suggest that you do the basic install without speech and then put the correct line into /etc/apt/sources.list for the latest kernel. run apt-get update and apt-get install with the kernel image name. That will install the speakup-enabled kernel and you should be ok. HTH Willem On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Debee Norling wrote: > I haven't posted in a while, but I've been reading the list off and on. I > finally got tired of fighting package dependencies with slackware and > decided to try Debian. > > I downloaded the latest speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso from > http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/. > > The Dell laptop I'm using is unable to boot directly from a CD, but runs > NetBSD fine. (When I installed NetBSD I was able to boot CD drivers from a > floppy and then access the CD without a problem.) > > I put in the boot disk and type > linux speakup_synth=bns > > There is no speakup target; I had my husband read the screen to confirm. > > and it boots, prompts for root and CD driver disks fine but doesn't speak. > > The install starts to run, asking you to select your keyboard so we know the > floppies are OK. I created them from the CD's /install/floppy images. > > It looks like there isn't a speakup kernel on these floppies. The above URL > used to contain the Debian access floppies which were speakup-enabled, but > only contains CD ISOS now, so I presumed that the correct floppy images > would be on the CD. > > This little laptop has only 2GB of hard drive and 32MB of RAM so it isn't > suitable for a bountiful distro. My only issue with NetBSD was that I had to > access everything with a terminal and missed speakup. I do have to say > though that NetBSD is very thrifty with memory and disk space and feels like > an old-fashioned UNIX! But I'd like to get Debian running on this little > beastie. > > Any thoughts? > > --Debee > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright, terms and conditions and e-mail legal notice. Views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the views of the CSIR. CSIR E-mail Legal Notice http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_eMail_Legal_Notice.html CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions http://mail.csir.co.za/CSIR_Copyright.html For electronic copies of the CSIR Copyright, Terms and Conditions and the CSIR Legal Notice send a blank message with REQUEST LEGAL in the subject line to HelpDesk@csir.co.za. This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks Transtec Computers for their support. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem installing Debian Problem installing Debian Debee Norling ` Willem van der Walt @ ` Kenny Hitt ` Sean McMahon ` Debee Norling 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: debee, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. Since you are booting from floppy, you should consider using the Debian access floppies. You can get them from the Debian site or my site. The URL for my site is: http://hittsjunk.net I am in the process of moving, but the site should be up today. I should only be off line for a day, if you can't get them today. For the record, today here is Dec 08. I'm in the U. S. Hope this helps. Kenny On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:29:10PM -0800, Debee Norling wrote: > I haven't posted in a while, but I've been reading the list off and on. I > finally got tired of fighting package dependencies with slackware and > decided to try Debian. > > I downloaded the latest speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso from > http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/. > > The Dell laptop I'm using is unable to boot directly from a CD, but runs > NetBSD fine. (When I installed NetBSD I was able to boot CD drivers from a > floppy and then access the CD without a problem.) > > I put in the boot disk and type > linux speakup_synth=bns > > There is no speakup target; I had my husband read the screen to confirm. > > and it boots, prompts for root and CD driver disks fine but doesn't speak. > > The install starts to run, asking you to select your keyboard so we know the > floppies are OK. I created them from the CD's /install/floppy images. > > It looks like there isn't a speakup kernel on these floppies. The above URL > used to contain the Debian access floppies which were speakup-enabled, but > only contains CD ISOS now, so I presumed that the correct floppy images > would be on the CD. > > This little laptop has only 2GB of hard drive and 32MB of RAM so it isn't > suitable for a bountiful distro. My only issue with NetBSD was that I had to > access everything with a terminal and missed speakup. I do have to say > though that NetBSD is very thrifty with memory and disk space and feels like > an old-fashioned UNIX! But I'd like to get Debian running on this little > beastie. > > Any thoughts? > > --Debee > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem installing Debian Problem installing Debian Debee Norling ` Willem van der Walt ` Kenny Hitt @ ` Sean McMahon ` Debee Norling 3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: debee, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The target for speakup on the speakup-enabled boot iso should be the following command at the boot prompt speakup speakup_synth=<synthname> where <synthname> is the string corrisponding to that of your synthesiser.for the 2.6 kernel, you replace speakup with speakup26 Are you saying that the speakup and speakup26 boot perameters don't work on the iso? I assume you've read the readme on the iso about the sbm or smart boot manager which will allow you to boot from the cd drive of a system with a bios which doesn't support booting off a cd drive? Your space constraints shouldn't pose a problem. I have debian on a system with less then a gig of space and 40MB of ram. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debee Norling" <debee@jfcl.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:29 PM Subject: Problem installing Debian > I haven't posted in a while, but I've been reading the list off and on. I > finally got tired of fighting package dependencies with slackware and > decided to try Debian. > > I downloaded the latest speakup_netinst-3.1r0a-1.iso from > http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/. > > The Dell laptop I'm using is unable to boot directly from a CD, but runs > NetBSD fine. (When I installed NetBSD I was able to boot CD drivers from a > floppy and then access the CD without a problem.) > > I put in the boot disk and type > linux speakup_synth=bns > > There is no speakup target; I had my husband read the screen to confirm. > > and it boots, prompts for root and CD driver disks fine but doesn't speak. > > The install starts to run, asking you to select your keyboard so we know the > floppies are OK. I created them from the CD's /install/floppy images. > > It looks like there isn't a speakup kernel on these floppies. The above URL > used to contain the Debian access floppies which were speakup-enabled, but > only contains CD ISOS now, so I presumed that the correct floppy images > would be on the CD. > > This little laptop has only 2GB of hard drive and 32MB of RAM so it isn't > suitable for a bountiful distro. My only issue with NetBSD was that I had to > access everything with a terminal and missed speakup. I do have to say > though that NetBSD is very thrifty with memory and disk space and feels like > an old-fashioned UNIX! But I'd like to get Debian running on this little > beastie. > > Any thoughts? > > --Debee > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* RE: Problem installing Debian Problem installing Debian Debee Norling ` (2 preceding siblings ...) ` Sean McMahon @ ` Debee Norling ` Scott Howell 3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. To clarify, the Debian access floppies work fine, they boot up talking with "linux speakup_synth .." as documented. But when the cd-drivers cd detects my debian CD, they complain about module mismatches. So that's why I wanted to boot from the floppy images provided on the same CD, which is supposedly speakup-enabled. Only those floppy images appear not to be. As for sighted help, he's happier if I figure out things myself unless of course not being able to do so would affect my job or something. He'll read the screen for my hobby stuff when he has time, but he usually wanders off so it's a bad idea to depend on it. I married him because he doesn't hover over me after all. --Debee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem installing Debian ` Debee Norling @ ` Scott Howell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Scott Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: debee, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Funny you mention problems with the Debian floppies. I did briefly attempt to use the floppies and couldn't get them to speak on boot either. I noticed it didn't really give any errors on the screen according to my wife, but nor did it come up speaking with the normal linux speakup_synth=synthname. I thought perhaps I had some bad floppy images and I hadn't had time to dig into this further. Perhaps there is a problem with the images? On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:19 AM, Debee Norling wrote: > To clarify, the Debian access floppies work fine, they boot up > talking with > "linux speakup_synth .." as documented. > > But when the cd-drivers cd detects my debian CD, they complain > about module > mismatches. So that's why I wanted to boot from the floppy images > provided > on the same CD, which is supposedly speakup-enabled. Only those floppy > images appear not to be. > > As for sighted help, he's happier if I figure out things myself > unless of > course not being able to do so would affect my job or something. > He'll read > the screen for my hobby stuff when he has time, but he usually > wanders off > so it's a bad idea to depend on it. I married him because he > doesn't hover > over me after all. > > --Debee > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* problem installing debian @ ` jaffar ` Tyler Littlefield ` Samuel Thibault 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: jaffar @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Folks. I cannot tell at which point of the boot process do i need to enter the command to activate my speech synth to begin the install process. Well, i reboot my pc, then insert the debian netinst disk that i have made from the iso image. The pc speaker beeps, then there's a whole lot of activity, and then the disk spins for about a minute and stops. I would have thought that tha'ts the point at which i would type the speech install command, so i type install speakup.synth=dectlk which is my external synth, then press enter. The disk spins again, but no speech. When it stops and i press the enter key again, the disk spins again, but with no speech guidance whatsoever. So, at which point of the boot process do i issue the install with speech command? Cheers! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: problem installing debian ` problem installing debian jaffar @ ` Tyler Littlefield ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. hello, I've never had to type install when I had a synth. try: speakup26 speakup_synth=... that may or may not work, but... that's what I had to do before. HTH, Thanks, _|_|_|_|_| _| _|_|_|_| _| _|_|_| _| _|_|_| _| _| _| _|_|_| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _|_|_|_| _|_|_| Visit TDS for quality software and website production http://tysdomain.com msn: tyler@tysdomain.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: <jaffar@ecstatico.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: problem installing debian > Hi Folks. I cannot tell at which point of the boot process do i need to > enter the command to activate my speech synth to begin the install > process. > Well, i reboot my pc, then insert the debian netinst disk that i have made > from the iso image. The pc speaker beeps, then there's a whole lot of > activity, and then the disk spins for about a minute and stops. I would > have thought that tha'ts the point at which i would type the speech > install command, so i type > install speakup.synth=dectlk which is my external synth, then press enter. > The disk spins again, but no speech. When it stops and i press the enter > key again, the disk spins again, but with no speech guidance whatsoever. > So, at which point of the boot process do i issue the install with speech > command? Cheers! > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3457 (20080919) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: problem installing debian ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Tyler, What you recommended worked with shanes's sarge installer. The poster was using the lenny installer in a windows environment. Chuck On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 08:03:34PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote: > hello, > I've never had to type install when I had a synth. > try: > speakup26 speakup_synth=... > that may or may not work, but... that's what I had to do before. > HTH, > > Thanks, > _|_|_|_|_| _| _|_|_|_| > _| _|_|_| _| _|_|_| > _| _| _| _|_|_| _| > _| _| _| _| _| > _| _| _| _|_|_|_| _|_|_| > Visit TDS for quality software and website production > http://tysdomain.com > msn: tyler@tysdomain.com > aim: st8amnd2005 > skype: st8amnd127 > ----- Original Message ----- From: <jaffar@ecstatico.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:53 PM > Subject: problem installing debian > > >> Hi Folks. I cannot tell at which point of the boot process do i need >> to enter the command to activate my speech synth to begin the install >> process. >> Well, i reboot my pc, then insert the debian netinst disk that i have >> made from the iso image. The pc speaker beeps, then there's a whole >> lot of activity, and then the disk spins for about a minute and stops. >> I would have thought that tha'ts the point at which i would type the >> speech install command, so i type >> install speakup.synth=dectlk which is my external synth, then press >> enter. The disk spins again, but no speech. When it stops and i press >> the enter key again, the disk spins again, but with no speech guidance >> whatsoever. So, at which point of the boot process do i issue the >> install with speech command? Cheers! >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> __________ NOD32 3457 (20080919) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (60% of Full) My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. -------- Monogamy is the Western custom of one wife and hardly any mistresses. -- H. H. Munro ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: problem installing debian ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Tyler Littlefield 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Tyler Littlefield @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. my appologies. wasn't sure, figured it was worth a go, anyway. Thanks, _|_|_|_|_| _| _|_|_|_| _| _|_|_| _| _|_|_| _| _| _| _|_|_| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _|_|_|_| _|_|_| Visit TDS for quality software and website production http://tysdomain.com msn: tyler@tysdomain.com aim: st8amnd2005 skype: st8amnd127 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh@ftml.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 2:32 AM Subject: Re: problem installing debian > Tyler, > > What you recommended worked with shanes's sarge installer. The poster > was using the lenny installer in a windows environment. > > Chuck > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 08:03:34PM -0600, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >> hello, >> I've never had to type install when I had a synth. >> try: >> speakup26 speakup_synth=... >> that may or may not work, but... that's what I had to do before. >> HTH, >> >> Thanks, >> _|_|_|_|_| _| _|_|_|_| >> _| _|_|_| _| _|_|_| >> _| _| _| _|_|_| _| >> _| _| _| _| _| >> _| _| _| _|_|_|_| _|_|_| >> Visit TDS for quality software and website production >> http://tysdomain.com >> msn: tyler@tysdomain.com >> aim: st8amnd2005 >> skype: st8amnd127 >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <jaffar@ecstatico.net> >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:53 PM >> Subject: problem installing debian >> >> >>> Hi Folks. I cannot tell at which point of the boot process do i need >>> to enter the command to activate my speech synth to begin the install >>> process. >>> Well, i reboot my pc, then insert the debian netinst disk that i have >>> made from the iso image. The pc speaker beeps, then there's a whole >>> lot of activity, and then the disk spins for about a minute and stops. >>> I would have thought that tha'ts the point at which i would type the >>> speech install command, so i type >>> install speakup.synth=dectlk which is my external synth, then press >>> enter. The disk spins again, but no speech. When it stops and i press >>> the enter key again, the disk spins again, but with no speech guidance >>> whatsoever. So, at which point of the boot process do i issue the >>> install with speech command? Cheers! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> __________ NOD32 3457 (20080919) Information __________ >>> >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (60% of Full) > > My web site: http://hallenbeck.ftml.net -- my telephone: 1-518-334-9022. > -------- > Monogamy is the Western custom of one wife and hardly any mistresses. > -- H. H. Munro > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > __________ NOD32 3458 (20080921) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: problem installing debian ` problem installing debian jaffar ` Tyler Littlefield @ ` Samuel Thibault 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Samuel Thibault @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. jaffar@ecstatico.net, le Sun 21 Sep 2008 09:53:21 +0800, a �crit : > install speakup.synth=dectlk That was correct with previous accessibility disks. With Lenny, you need to press tab and then speakup.synth=dectlk, i.e. instead of typing install, press the tab key. Samuel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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