Pure Frustration!!!

Pure Frustration!!!

[Darragh]

Hello all,

I'm writing out of pure frustration, despiration, anger and well, there's probably a bit of insanity in here somewhere as well. I have been working with Linux now full time for the past two months and its getting on my nerves. I'm writing this with the hope someone can show me the error of my ways. right, here are the problems that I'm having.

1. with software speech I can not play music while its loded. Some might think this is a minor thing but without music keeping me sane I'd be completely crazy! 

Oh on the topic of music, why will playwave only play one track at a time? any other good players out there? I have to dig out the ftp address for mpg123 and its dependancies as if memory serves, and at this stage it probably doesn't it was a good application to have installed.

I've downloaded a package called msmtp which seemed easy enough to configure but I get a child error 78 in mutt while sending mail. If it would help I could send my .msmtprc and .muttrc files at some stage.

In Mutt my messages are organized by thread. This might be a nice feature but I'm not use to it so at the moment I want them organized by date. I suppose this is just a case of looking up the man page for creating the muttrc file but I'm sick of man pages as I think that's all I've read this week!

Finally, I'm thinking of either changing to fedora or gen2. Unfortunately though I'll have to use SuSE 10 and 9.3 a lot as their the operating distribution versions that I'm working with but for my own use what are the benefits of changing to one of these distrobutions? 

Will changing to these make it easier to send and recieve Email, play music as well as use software speech and install new software?

Thanks and sorry if that sounded like a rant. I'm going for a drink!

Darragh

Re: Pure Frustration!!!

[Raul A. Gallegos]

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Hello Darragh. As far as configuring packages and personal use software 
like Mutt it does not really matter which distribution you use. Sounds 
like for now you need to step back and take a deep breath. I just this 
week installed a new database virtual email system on my server and it 
surely caused headaches but I know in the end it will be worth it. What 
I'd recommend is is to maybe get a sample .muttrc file from a friend. As 
far as sorting the messages you put in a line like:

set_sort=date

Most configurations for defaults can be found in the master config file. 
For example sometimes mutt will have a file called /etc/Muttrc or 
something similar. Next, if you have any close friends using certain 
distributions I'd recommend going with what they use. No one 
distribution is better or worse than each other. In the end it's a 
matter of opinion. When I first learned Linux it was on a Slackware 3.5 
system. After Slackware I learned Debian, and now am using Fedora Core 
3. After using three distros now I have seen each has it's good and bad 
points. If you don't know anyone close to you who uses any Linux what so 
ever then you will have to rely on your virtual friends here on the 
list. I can tell you though, for most answers the answer is right there 
in the man page or in the -h parameter of a command line program. 
Reading a lot at one time can put you into information overload, trust 
me, I've felt that way these last coupld of days reading about postfix 
and greylisting emails.

I personally use mutt and love it. I'd be willing to help you out in how 
I can but I no nothing next to how Suse lays out their systems. I do 
know it uses rpms so that is at least one similarity with Fedora Core.

Cheers.

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Raul A. Gallegos ... IliwSsmc
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Re: Pure Frustration!!!

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

I've never heard of the media player you are using.  Have you tried
alsaplayer, mplayer, zinf, or totem?  All of these support play list
files, so you can set them up to play everything on the file system
(including streams). Mplayer and totem can play Windows media and Real
audio if you have the codecs installed, and you tell totem to use Xime
instead of gstreamer.

What sound card is in the box?  Your problem with no music while using
software speech is probably caused by your sound card not being multi
channel.

I believe you mentioned in an earlier post your job is now in Linux.  If
you hate Linux so much, can I have your job and you can go back to
Windows?

          Kenny
	  

Re: Pure Frustration!!!

[Ralph W. Reid]

Actually, a non-multichannel sound card can play multiple sounds
simultaneously by using something like the enhanced sound daemon
(esd). I use esd on my ancient systems all of the time, and am quite
happy with the way it works.  Mplayer can be compiled to support esd,
and other audio players support esd as well.  I listened to the
realtime audio from the last space shuttle mission on my system while
I was using the system for other things (including some things which
produced some sound effects), and had no trouble with the sounds all
playing through my old card at once.  HTH, and have a _great_ day!

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:11:08AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I've never heard of the media player you are using.  Have you tried
> alsaplayer, mplayer, zinf, or totem?  All of these support play list
> files, so you can set them up to play everything on the file system
> (including streams). Mplayer and totem can play Windows media and Real
> audio if you have the codecs installed, and you tell totem to use Xime
> instead of gstreamer.
> 
> What sound card is in the box?  Your problem with no music while using
> software speech is probably caused by your sound card not being multi
> channel.
> 
> I believe you mentioned in an earlier post your job is now in Linux.  If
> you hate Linux so much, can I have your job and you can go back to
> Windows?
> 
>           Kenny
> 	  
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
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_PI = 4 * ARCTAN (1)

Re: Pure Frustration!!!

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

The problem I've noticed with using esd is with software speech.  Most
software synths can't directly support it, and ones that do like
festival get unresponsive when using it.

          Kenny
	  
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 10:47:49AM -0700, Ralph W. Reid wrote:
> Actually, a non-multichannel sound card can play multiple sounds
> simultaneously by using something like the enhanced sound daemon
> (esd). I use esd on my ancient systems all of the time, and am quite
> happy with the way it works.  Mplayer can be compiled to support esd,
> and other audio players support esd as well.  I listened to the
> realtime audio from the last space shuttle mission on my system while
> I was using the system for other things (including some things which
> produced some sound effects), and had no trouble with the sounds all
> playing through my old card at once.  HTH, and have a _great_ day!
> 
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 07:11:08AM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > I've never heard of the media player you are using.  Have you tried
> > alsaplayer, mplayer, zinf, or totem?  All of these support play list
> > files, so you can set them up to play everything on the file system
> > (including streams). Mplayer and totem can play Windows media and Real
> > audio if you have the codecs installed, and you tell totem to use Xime
> > instead of gstreamer.
> > 
> > What sound card is in the box?  Your problem with no music while using
> > software speech is probably caused by your sound card not being multi
> > channel.
> > 
> > I believe you mentioned in an earlier post your job is now in Linux.  If
> > you hate Linux so much, can I have your job and you can go back to
> > Windows?
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 	  
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> Ralph.  N6BNO.  Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
> rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> ...passing through The City of Internet at the speed of light!
> _PI = 4 * ARCTAN (1)
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Pure Frustration!!!

[Darragh]

Hello all, 

sorry for my slightly unusual message last night. I was most definitly reaching my limit!

Shortly afterword I got pine working and I really like it.  I have just a few quick questions that hopefully someone can help me with.

1.  My SMTP server requires a log in.  How do I set this in pine?
2.  How do I configure more than one account? How can I then separate these accounts email lists etc into different folders?
3.  Are there any settings in mutt that can make speakup read it clearor?  

Just to clarify one point in my previous message: The laptop that I am using does have a multi track sound card and after reading a number of responses it seems that it is playwaves fault.

Thanks again.

Darragh