* OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? [not found] ` <20050912154644.GB2076@director> @ ` Karen Lewellen ` Sean McMahon ` OT: " Ann K. Parsons 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Linux for blind general discussion Cc: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Greetings all, I did not at first rase this issue here, but on the speakup list. now that i have additional information, I want to reach out to a broader source of guidance. I am a member of a professional media organization called AIR airmedia.org the group provides information to producers and broadcasters serving the public radio community, and the general public. One of their services is a monthly online conference called the air spotlight. This is accessed via a chat client which is a part of the hosting service used by AIR. It is my understanding, although I am seeking more direct information, that this is only a Java protocol system which has cost the organization nothing thus far as it is thrown in with their hosting options. I am getting more direct information for the company so I can confirm this. Interestingly enough the Java structure is presenting barriers for more than just me, it is not javascript and apparently even those using windows and macs have trouble. I am suggesting that an IRC portal be created that can be accessed at the same time as the regular conference, which are monthly. this will not only alow me to join, I am joining the organization's board, but anyone else who can access mirc, the windows client for IRC. I want to learn how difficult it is to create such a portal, and what is required. or would it be easier to enable javascript to go along with their Java setup? anyone with serious knowledge, can you write me off list? i want to present as factual an option as i can for this. Thanks very much, Karen lewellen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? Karen Lewellen @ ` Sean McMahon ` Karen Lewellen ` OT: " Ann K. Parsons 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. ok, first of all, java has nothing at all to do with javascript. If in fact, this client is java, java apps are supported in linux. Whether you can use a java-based client depends on whether you have a compatible jvm and whether you have an accessible means of accessing the application. For example, if you personally couldn't access a java-based gui, and the application in question only had a gui, then this is the fault of the applications author. If you can't run the java-based application because you don't have one or the permissions to use one on your linux system, then that is something which you or your system administrator can solve. Of course any of us here would agree that this organization would do best not to re-invent the wheel, however, you don't want to suggest a solution if it is the incorrect one. In short, stick to your core competencies and your current role when reporting a problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@shellworld.net> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@redhat.com> Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:32 PM Subject: OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? > Greetings all, > I did not at first rase this issue here, but on the speakup list. now > that i have additional information, I want to reach out to a broader source > of guidance. > I am a member of a professional media organization called AIR > airmedia.org > > the group provides information to producers and broadcasters serving the > public radio community, and the general public. One of their services is > a monthly online conference called the air spotlight. > This is accessed via a chat client which is a part of the hosting service > used by AIR. It is my understanding, although I am seeking more direct > information, that this is only a Java protocol system which has cost the > organization nothing thus far as it is thrown in with their hosting > options. I am getting more direct information for the company so I can > confirm this. > > Interestingly enough the Java structure is presenting barriers for more > than just me, it is not javascript and apparently even those using windows > and macs have trouble. > I am suggesting that an IRC portal be created that can be accessed at the > same time as the regular conference, which are monthly. this will not only > alow me to join, I am joining the organization's board, but anyone else > who can access mirc, the windows client for IRC. > > I want to learn how difficult it is to create such a portal, and what is > required. or would it be easier to enable javascript to go along with > their Java setup? > anyone with serious knowledge, can you write me off list? i want to > present as factual an option as i can for this. > Thanks very much, > Karen lewellen > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Sean McMahon @ ` Karen Lewellen ` Charles Hallenbeck ` Kenny Hitt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Okay, this brings up a new question then. It has been my understanding that e-links is the only Java oriented browser, as lynx does not support Java. I am using the lynx shell at shellworld, and e-links is here exactly because it is supposed to access Java, or at least javascript. I agree with you that i would rather not ask them to ree vent the wheel, but what other options do I have to access this client? when i raised the question before, someone referenced irc, which is why i asked about this option. I do not have my own Linux system, but again use shellworld. Thanks, Karen On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Sean McMahon wrote: > ok, first of all, java has nothing at all to do with javascript. If in fact, > this client is java, java apps are supported in linux. Whether you can use a > java-based client depends on whether you have a compatible jvm and whether you > have an accessible means of accessing the application. For example, if you > personally couldn't access a java-based gui, and the application in question > only had a gui, then this is the fault of the applications author. If you can't > run the java-based application because you don't have one or the permissions to > use one on your linux system, then that is something which you or your system > administrator can solve. Of course any of us here would agree that this > organization would do best not to re-invent the wheel, however, you don't want > to suggest a solution if it is the incorrect one. In short, stick to your core > competencies and your current role when reporting a problem. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@shellworld.net> > To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@redhat.com> > Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:32 PM > Subject: OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? > > >> Greetings all, >> I did not at first rase this issue here, but on the speakup list. now >> that i have additional information, I want to reach out to a broader source >> of guidance. >> I am a member of a professional media organization called AIR >> airmedia.org >> >> the group provides information to producers and broadcasters serving the >> public radio community, and the general public. One of their services is >> a monthly online conference called the air spotlight. >> This is accessed via a chat client which is a part of the hosting service >> used by AIR. It is my understanding, although I am seeking more direct >> information, that this is only a Java protocol system which has cost the >> organization nothing thus far as it is thrown in with their hosting >> options. I am getting more direct information for the company so I can >> confirm this. >> >> Interestingly enough the Java structure is presenting barriers for more >> than just me, it is not javascript and apparently even those using windows >> and macs have trouble. >> I am suggesting that an IRC portal be created that can be accessed at the >> same time as the regular conference, which are monthly. this will not only >> alow me to join, I am joining the organization's board, but anyone else >> who can access mirc, the windows client for IRC. >> >> I want to learn how difficult it is to create such a portal, and what is >> required. or would it be easier to enable javascript to go along with >> their Java setup? >> anyone with serious knowledge, can you write me off list? i want to >> present as factual an option as i can for this. >> Thanks very much, >> Karen lewellen >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Karen Lewellen @ ` Charles Hallenbeck ` Karen Lewellen ` Kenny Hitt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Charles Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Karen, Anne, and all, Others have had more experience with text mode conferencing in Linux than I, but for what it's worth, here is my experience: There are numerous IRC clients that work well enough in Linux. I have used BitchX to participate in text mode conferences with little or not difficulty, after tweaking the default configuration a bit. I have been told that there are better clients than BitchX for the purpose, but never moved on up to another. Currently I am using jabber very successfully for instant messaging, relying on the client called "imcom" for the purpose. There are conferences available on the jabber network, and I have also successfully participated in one of them using imcom. In addition to providing instant messaging and conferencing, jabber supports gateways to the major proprietary conferencing and messaging services such as ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, and the rest, but I have not attempted to use those gateways (or transports in jabberese). I know of at least one serious speakup user who uses them happily, and at least one other who has had enormous difficulty doing so. I also understand that the new Google Talk service relies on the jabber protocol, or a jabber-like protocol, but again I have not attempted to interact with it, and do not know if they do conferences anyway. Jabber uses the terms "MUC" (multi user chat) and "conference" interchangeably. The various IRC services and the jabber network are all GPL, and there are client programs to access them for all the major platforms, Windows, Mac, and Linux. While it is possible to do text mode conferencing in Linux, my experience has been that it is usually a very rapid fire experience that challenges my reaction time to participate effectively. In short, it is no fun! But it is do-able. That's it, you have just picked my brain clear to the bone. Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (72% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh or you could Jabber me, using JID chuckh@hhs48.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Charles Hallenbeck @ ` Karen Lewellen ` Charles Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Charles, I am trying to follow this in the context of my question. Are you suggesting that one of these avenues, one of the networks you referenced, may have a portal structure in place that might let me visit. interact.airmedia.org and access their chat/conference client there, which is proprietory java based, and not a messing service? I realize you have said you do not know much, but is this in part what you are suggesting I need no irc client there is a fine one here at shellworld. However at the moment there is no irc portal that connects to this site, and i am not sure if one can be created. That falls under the reeventing the wheel category perhaps. thanks, Karen On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > Karen, Anne, and all, > > Others have had more experience with text mode conferencing in Linux > than I, but for what it's worth, here is my experience: > > There are numerous IRC clients that work well enough in Linux. I have > used BitchX to participate in text mode conferences with little or not > difficulty, after tweaking the default configuration a bit. I have been > told that there are better clients than BitchX for the purpose, but > never moved on up to another. > > Currently I am using jabber very successfully for instant messaging, > relying on the client called "imcom" for the purpose. There are > conferences available on the jabber network, and I have also > successfully participated in one of them using imcom. > > In addition to providing instant messaging and conferencing, jabber > supports gateways to the major proprietary conferencing and messaging > services such as ICQ, Yahoo Messenger, AOL Instant Messenger, and the > rest, but I have not attempted to use those gateways (or transports in > jabberese). I know of at least one serious speakup user who uses them > happily, and at least one other who has had enormous difficulty doing > so. I also understand that the new Google Talk service relies on the > jabber protocol, or a jabber-like protocol, but again I have not > attempted to interact with it, and do not know if they do conferences > anyway. Jabber uses the terms "MUC" (multi user chat) and "conference" > interchangeably. > > The various IRC services and the jabber network are all GPL, and there > are client programs to access them for all the major platforms, Windows, > Mac, and Linux. > > While it is possible to do text mode conferencing in Linux, my > experience has been that it is usually a very rapid fire experience that > challenges my reaction time to participate effectively. In short, it is > no fun! But it is do-able. > > That's it, you have just picked my brain clear to the bone. > > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (72% of Full) > But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > or you could Jabber me, using JID chuckh@hhs48.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Karen Lewellen @ ` Charles Hallenbeck ` Karen Lewellen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Charles Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Karen, I did not mean to suggest that anything I said could solve your problem, but I hoped it might add to the context of text mode conferencing in Linux. If your folks are using a proprietary protocol that relies on java, you might very well be obliged to use a proprietary client that their service supports. As others have said, the problem with proprietary formats and protocols is that their owners do not want others to be able to use them, and so the only Linux solutions you will find will be those that have been reverse engineered without the permission of the owners. And such solutions are guaranteed to become outdated and inoperable as soon as the owners of the protocol decide to change their specs to exclude them. I think the bottom line of my earlier post would be that text mode conferencing works in Linux with open source GPL tools, but the issue of interacting with proprietary formats is iffy at best. I am not sure why you are hesitant to recommend to the AIR people that they switch to an open protocol that does not dictate which OS and which client their participants must use. Jabber would be one such open service, and it is all free for the asking. Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (73% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh or you could Jabber me, using JID chuckh@hhs48.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Charles Hallenbeck @ ` Karen Lewellen ` Charles Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi chuck, I think you are working from the idea that i need a major long term solution, and that the owners intend to change their protocol to exclude whatever third party option I discover. None of this is firmly true. In fact I have a feeling they do not even know of the problem. I will have to go back and look for the names of those third party options, but as the agency's site is hosted there until that host tells me they do not wish to help us, i cannot suggest that they move their chat. Interestingly enough even the less vision challenged to sighted windows and mac users have problems with this host's client, so it is not just me. I want to be certain I cannot on the one hand, find a short term solution, the conference is only once a month, and on the other see if we can find a solution that helps more people, without as sean said, reeventing the wheel. I am going to speak to the host company myself tomorrow. what i really hope to have by then are the options that can be integrated if possible, or the options that may be workable that they have not considered. The company is called webcrossing and they are based in the bay area. I believe you would better understand why i just cannot have the entire nonprofit international broadcasting group move if you visit the agency's site. airmedia.org Thanks, Karen On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > Karen, > > I did not mean to suggest that anything I said could solve your problem, > but I hoped it might add to the context of text mode conferencing in > Linux. If your folks are using a proprietary protocol that relies on > java, you might very well be obliged to use a proprietary client that > their service supports. As others have said, the problem with > proprietary formats and protocols is that their owners do not want > others to be able to use them, and so the only Linux solutions you will > find will be those that have been reverse engineered without the > permission of the owners. And such solutions are guaranteed to become > outdated and inoperable as soon as the owners of the protocol decide to > change their specs to exclude them. > > I think the bottom line of my earlier post would be that text mode > conferencing works in Linux with open source GPL tools, but the issue of > interacting with proprietary formats is iffy at best. I am not sure why > you are hesitant to recommend to the AIR people that they switch to an > open protocol that does not dictate which OS and which client their > participants must use. Jabber would be one such open service, and it is > all free for the asking. > > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (73% of Full) > But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > or you could Jabber me, using JID chuckh@hhs48.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Karen Lewellen @ ` Charles Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Charles Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Well, good luck. I hope you can come up with something. -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (77% of Full) But you can still get downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh or you could Jabber me, using JID chuckh@hhs48.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Karen Lewellen ` Charles Hallenbeck @ ` Kenny Hitt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Kenny Hitt @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi. You keep confusing java and javascript. They are not the same! Neither elinks or links2 have java support. They have javascript support! Links2 has better javascript support than elinks, but elinks has better all round support for the web. One important thing missing from links2 is http authorization. Kenny On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:53:17AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Okay, this brings up a new question then. > It has been my understanding that e-links is the only Java oriented > browser, as lynx does not support Java. I am using the lynx shell at > shellworld, and e-links is here exactly because it is supposed to access > Java, or at least javascript. > I agree with you that i would rather not ask them to ree vent the wheel, > but what other options do I have to access this client? > when i raised the question before, someone referenced irc, which is why i > asked about this option. > > I do not have my own Linux system, but again use shellworld. > Thanks, > Karen > > On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Sean McMahon wrote: > > >ok, first of all, java has nothing at all to do with javascript. If in > >fact, > >this client is java, java apps are supported in linux. Whether you can > >use a > >java-based client depends on whether you have a compatible jvm and whether > >you > >have an accessible means of accessing the application. For example, if you > >personally couldn't access a java-based gui, and the application in > >question > >only had a gui, then this is the fault of the applications author. If you > >can't > >run the java-based application because you don't have one or the > >permissions to > >use one on your linux system, then that is something which you or your > >system > >administrator can solve. Of course any of us here would agree that this > >organization would do best not to re-invent the wheel, however, you don't > >want > >to suggest a solution if it is the incorrect one. In short, stick to your > >core > >competencies and your current role when reporting a problem. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@shellworld.net> > >To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@redhat.com> > >Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:32 PM > >Subject: OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? > > > > > >>Greetings all, > >>I did not at first rase this issue here, but on the speakup list. now > >>that i have additional information, I want to reach out to a broader > >>source > >>of guidance. > >>I am a member of a professional media organization called AIR > >>airmedia.org > >> > >>the group provides information to producers and broadcasters serving the > >>public radio community, and the general public. One of their services is > >>a monthly online conference called the air spotlight. > >>This is accessed via a chat client which is a part of the hosting service > >>used by AIR. It is my understanding, although I am seeking more direct > >>information, that this is only a Java protocol system which has cost the > >>organization nothing thus far as it is thrown in with their hosting > >>options. I am getting more direct information for the company so I can > >>confirm this. > >> > >>Interestingly enough the Java structure is presenting barriers for more > >>than just me, it is not javascript and apparently even those using windows > >>and macs have trouble. > >>I am suggesting that an IRC portal be created that can be accessed at the > >>same time as the regular conference, which are monthly. this will not > >>only > >>alow me to join, I am joining the organization's board, but anyone else > >>who can access mirc, the windows client for IRC. > >> > >> I want to learn how difficult it is to create such a portal, and what is > >>required. or would it be easier to enable javascript to go along with > >>their Java setup? > >>anyone with serious knowledge, can you write me off list? i want to > >>present as factual an option as i can for this. > >>Thanks very much, > >>Karen lewellen > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Speakup mailing list > >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? Karen Lewellen ` Sean McMahon @ ` Ann K. Parsons ` Sean McMahon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Ann K. Parsons @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Karen, Actually, a discussion of this kind is a worthy one for this list. I don't know the technical details, but having explored the possibilities of using the TCConference software in Linux, I can understand your frustration. What client is this? Who makes it? Is it under the GPL? These would be my first questions to ask. If it's under the GPL, making a port would be easy. If it isn't, then you got problems. I understand that TCConference works in Linux, for example, but you must run X, and you must have a way to access it, either Gnome or something else. Developers of TCConference haven't been exactly forthcoming about just how their client works in Linux. These are problems I am facing. I imagine you're in the same boat, though with a different software. I'd really like to see a discussion of this problem and how it gets solved. So, I'm pleading for folks not to take it off-list. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp Skype: Putertutor "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` OT: " Ann K. Parsons @ ` Sean McMahon ` farhan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: akp, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ann, have you ever used something called teamtalk in linux? I know they make a port and it is also a talking conference type of software. Can't say if it is command-line based. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann K. Parsons" <akp@eznet.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? > Hi Karen, > > Actually, a discussion of this kind is a worthy one for this list. I > don't know the technical details, but having explored the > possibilities of using the TCConference software in Linux, I can > understand your frustration. > > What client is this? Who makes it? Is it under the GPL? These > would be my first questions to ask. If it's under the GPL, making a > port would be easy. If it isn't, then you got problems. I > understand that TCConference works in Linux, for example, but you must > run X, and you must have a way to access it, either Gnome or something > else. Developers of TCConference haven't been exactly forthcoming > about just how their client works in Linux. These are problems I am > facing. I imagine you're in the same boat, though with a different > software. > > I'd really like to see a discussion of this problem and how it gets > solved. So, I'm pleading for folks not to take it off-list. > > Ann P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > email: akp@eznet.net > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > Skype: Putertutor > "All that is gold does not glitter. > Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? ` Sean McMahon @ ` farhan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: farhan @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hello, uh i no the developer of teamtalk, if its the teamtalk I think your talkign about it should be at http://bearware.dk last time I checked, he said he didn't have a linux port. Sean McMahon wrote: > Ann, have you ever used something called teamtalk in linux? I know they make a > port and it is also a talking conference type of software. Can't say if it is > command-line based. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann K. Parsons" <akp@eznet.net> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:30 AM > Subject: OT: Linux, online confrences, and IRC portals? > > >> Hi Karen, >> >> Actually, a discussion of this kind is a worthy one for this list. I >> don't know the technical details, but having explored the >> possibilities of using the TCConference software in Linux, I can >> understand your frustration. >> >> What client is this? Who makes it? Is it under the GPL? These >> would be my first questions to ask. If it's under the GPL, making a >> port would be easy. If it isn't, then you got problems. I >> understand that TCConference works in Linux, for example, but you must >> run X, and you must have a way to access it, either Gnome or something >> else. Developers of TCConference haven't been exactly forthcoming >> about just how their client works in Linux. These are problems I am >> facing. I imagine you're in the same boat, though with a different >> software. >> >> I'd really like to see a discussion of this problem and how it gets >> solved. So, I'm pleading for folks not to take it off-list. >> >> Ann P. >> >> -- >> Ann K. Parsons >> email: akp@eznet.net >> WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp >> Skype: Putertutor >> "All that is gold does not glitter. >> Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Farhan. contact info: aim and stoof msn: i.am.Farhan@gmail.com jabber: farhan@jabber.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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