Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Beth Hatch]

 
Hello all,
 
I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
 
Beth

Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

Since speakup is a patch to the Linux kernel, it will only work on Linux
systems.
Your choices for screen readers are yasr or brltty.  I haven't ever managed to get yasr's
DECtalk driver to work, so you will probably end up using flite for the
synth with yasr.
Your other option would be to do everything on an ssh session from a
Linux box.  Then, you can use speakup on the Linux system.

Hope this helps.
         Kenny
	 
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:33:49PM -0600, Beth Hatch wrote:
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
> Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
> other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
> live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please feel
> free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
> for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
> easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
> another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>  
> Beth
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Beth Hatch]

Hello Kenny,

Glad to hear from you, and I hope you're doing well!!

Thanks for the quick response.  I think I will probably use Linux and ssh in
the beginning at least.  Since I already know how to do this, it will mean
less work.  I know we discussed yasr before, but I haven't been able to look
into that.  I feel much better about just sticking with speakup and using
ssh for this.<smile>

Thanks again for your assistance,

Beth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Kenny Hitt
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 8:46 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

Hi.

Since speakup is a patch to the Linux kernel, it will only work on Linux
systems.
Your choices for screen readers are yasr or brltty.  I haven't ever managed
to get yasr's DECtalk driver to work, so you will probably end up using
flite for the synth with yasr.
Your other option would be to do everything on an ssh session from a Linux
box.  Then, you can use speakup on the Linux system.

Hope this helps.
         Kenny
	 
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:33:49PM -0600, Beth Hatch wrote:
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD
unix?
> Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there 
> some other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB
and a SB
> live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
feel
> free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off 
> topic for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much 
> easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX 
> box from another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>  
> Beth
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

_______________________________________________
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Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Laura Eaves]

Hi Beth --
Have you looked at emacspeak?
I haven't used it but I was under the impression that it is not limited to 
linux.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Good luck.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth Hatch" <bhatch200@comcast.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems



Hello all,

I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.

Beth
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Beth Hatch]

Hi Laura,

No, I haven't tried this program at all, but of course I've heard of
Emacspeak.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  I heard the learning
curve was fairly steep, normally that's not a problem, but when you're on a
deadline with not a lot of time, I thought I may stick with Speakup using a
terminal in order to get the job accomplished faster.<smile>

Thanks for the message!!

Beth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Laura Eaves
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:23 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

Hi Beth --
Have you looked at emacspeak?
I haven't used it but I was under the impression that it is not limited to
linux.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Good luck.
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Hatch" <bhatch200@comcast.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems



Hello all,

I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.

Beth
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 


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RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, yasr will work just fine under this operating system.  You can use
it with eflite or any other emacs server.
So once you get the dectalk express server installed and working for
emacspeak then yasr can use it.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Hatch
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:34 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


 
Hello all,
 
I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD
unix? Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is
there some other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a
Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off
topic for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box
from another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
 
Beth
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Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Beth Hatch]

Hi Jim and all,

Thank you for this information.  Thanks to everyone for all the help and
support.  I'll let you know how it goes.

Beth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:33 AM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

Hi, yasr will work just fine under this operating system.  You can use it
with eflite or any other emacs server.
So once you get the dectalk express server installed and working for
emacspeak then yasr can use it.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Hatch
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:34 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


 
Hello all,
 
I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
 
Beth
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Ann K. Parsons]

Hi all,

Hmmmmm, only problem with Emacspeak is that although it is a wonderful
editor, has several wonderful extensions for email and the web, it
only works for emacs and its extensions.  There is a terminal mode,
but I've never been able to get it to work.  

Ann P.

-- 
			Ann K. Parsons  
email:  akp@eznet.net 			
WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
Skype:  Putertutor
"All that is gold does not glitter.  
Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT

Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Sean McMahon]

Does yasr depend on emacs?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


> Hi, yasr will work just fine under this operating system.  You can use
> it with eflite or any other emacs server.
> So once you get the dectalk express server installed and working for
> emacspeak then yasr can use it.  
> Hth 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Hatch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:34 PM
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems
> 
> 
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD
> unix? Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is
> there some other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a
> Dectalk USB and a SB
> live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
> feel
> free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off
> topic for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
> easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box
> from another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>  
> Beth
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Sean McMahon]

There is eterm and then there's also m-x shell to open up a shell.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann K. Parsons" <akp@eznet.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 4:45 AM
Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


> Hi all,
> 
> Hmmmmm, only problem with Emacspeak is that although it is a wonderful
> editor, has several wonderful extensions for email and the web, it
> only works for emacs and its extensions.  There is a terminal mode,
> but I've never been able to get it to work.  
> 
> Ann P.
> 
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons  
> email:  akp@eznet.net 
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> Skype:  Putertutor
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  
> Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, no it uses emacspeak servers to talk to unsupported devices.  
Speech dispatcher also does this.  
Hth 
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:00 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


Does yasr depend on emacs?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


> Hi, yasr will work just fine under this operating system.  You can use

> it with eflite or any other emacs server. So once you get the dectalk 
> express server installed and working for emacspeak then yasr can use 
> it.
> Hth 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Hatch
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:34 PM
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems
> 
> 
>  
> Hello all,
>  
> I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD

> unix? Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is

> there some other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a 
> Dectalk USB and a SB
> live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
> feel
> free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off 
> topic for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much 
> easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX 
> box from another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>  
> Beth
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Scott Berry]

No I am pretty sure it doesn't.  But I think what is being said is 
that if Festival is installed then you are set to use Yasr.



At 01:00 PM 7/28/2005, you wrote:

>Does yasr depend on emacs?
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
>To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:33 PM
>Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems
>
>
> > Hi, yasr will work just fine under this operating system.  You can use
> > it with eflite or any other emacs server.
> > So once you get the dectalk express server installed and working for
> > emacspeak then yasr can use it.
> > Hth
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Beth Hatch
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:34 PM
> > To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> > Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD
> > unix? Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is
> > there some other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a
> > Dectalk USB and a SB
> > live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
> > feel
> > free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off
> > topic for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
> > easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box
> > from another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > Beth
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>_______________________________________________
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>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Joseph C. Lininger]

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Hello Beth,
Speakup runs at the kernel level not at the user level. This means that
it is only going to be available under Linux. If you need access under
Free BSD, you may try one of the other solutions like yasr or
emacsspeak.

- --
It's not one damn thing after another, it's the same damn thing over and
over. (History repeats itself)
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Beth Hatch said

>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD
unix?
> Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there
some
> other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB
and a SB
> live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please
feel
> free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off
topic
> for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
> easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX
box from
> another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Beth
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, the terminal mode works well or it seemed to the few times I used
it.
Yasr works better though for normal day to day task.  The key
arrangements are some what like vocal-eyes or flipper.  Once you have
your emacs server working yasr can use that server to provide speech.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Thomas Stivers
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 4:55 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


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On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:45:57 AM -0400, Ann K. Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Hmmmmm, only problem with Emacspeak is that although it is a wonderful

> editor, has several wonderful extensions for email and the web, it 
> only works for emacs and its extensions.  There is a terminal mode, 
> but I've never been able to get it to work.

Now now, you know its an "audio desktop" not just an editor. You better
be careful or you'll get yourself bitten by Mr. Raman's guide dog.
*grin*

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 07:45:57 AM -0400, Ann K. Parsons wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Hmmmmm, only problem with Emacspeak is that although it is a wonderful
> editor, has several wonderful extensions for email and the web, it
> only works for emacs and its extensions.  There is a terminal mode,
> but I've never been able to get it to work.  

Now now, you know its an "audio desktop" not just an editor. You better
be careful or you'll get yourself bitten by Mr. Raman's guide dog.
*grin*

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

[Laura Eaves]

Hi Beth --
Well the reason I never used it was because I am a vi user and so am not 
quite used to emacs commands, which are a little different. But I hear if 
you already know how to use emacs as an editor, the emacspeak environment 
isn't so hard to learn...
Just a thought.
Take care and good luck.
--le

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth Hatch" <bhatch200@comcast.net>
To: "'Laura Eaves'" <leaves1@carolina.rr.com>; "'Speakup is a screen review 
system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: RE: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems


Hi Laura,

No, I haven't tried this program at all, but of course I've heard of
Emacspeak.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  I heard the learning
curve was fairly steep, normally that's not a problem, but when you're on a
deadline with not a lot of time, I thought I may stick with Speakup using a
terminal in order to get the job accomplished faster.<smile>

Thanks for the message!!

Beth

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Laura Eaves
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:23 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems

Hi Beth --
Have you looked at emacspeak?
I haven't used it but I was under the impression that it is not limited to
linux.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Good luck.
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beth Hatch" <bhatch200@comcast.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: Speakup on Other Unix Operating Systems



Hello all,

I have a job possibility where I may need to have speech access to BSD unix?
Is it possible to use Speak up with this operating system, or is there some
other screen reader that will work?  I have access to a Dectalk USB and a SB
live sound card if software speech is support.   If you prefer, please feel
free to write to me off list at bhatch200@comcast.net if this is off topic
for this list.  If Speakup would work with it, that would much
easier.<smile>  I suppose I could also use ssh to get into the UNIX box from
another computer.  Thanks for any suggestions.

Beth
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