what is orca

what is orca

[Danny Crone]

Hello.  Anyone know what Orca is?  Is it a program in the developmental stage like gnopernicus?

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Re: what is orca

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, developmental.

Danny Crone writes:
> Hello.  Anyone know what Orca is?  Is it a program in the developmental stage like gnopernicus?
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RE: what is orca

[jim grimsby]

Yes, developmental.
How well does it work so far?  Does it work better then gnopernicus?
Where can one goto get it? Thanks. 
Danny Crone writes:
> Hello.  Anyone know what Orca is?  Is it a program in the 
> developmental stage like gnopernicus?
> 
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Re: what is orca

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:02:48AM -0700, jim grimsby wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, developmental.
> How well does it work so far?  Does it work better then gnopernicus?
> Where can one goto get it? Thanks. 

I can't get it to run on my current Debian system, but I tried it last
year when I ran Gentoo.  I suspect my problem in Debian is something
Debian changed in bonobo, but haven't spent much time trying to debug
and fix.

Because of the nature of Gnome accessibility, it did a good job.
It doesn't have any review functions,and at that
time, it did a better job of reading a gnome terminal.  Gnopernicus has
sinced improved it's access to Gnome terminals.

The only way I know to get it is from CVS.  I noticed that not all of it
gets downloaded some times, so make sure you get the C code as well as
the Python code if you try it.

export CVSROOT=':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome'
cvs login
cvs co orca
cvs logout

I know this could probably be done with fewer commands, but I'm lazy and
just pasted my getorca script from last year.

If nothing else, orca convinced me the biggest problem with Gnome
accessibility is probably Gnopernicus and not actual Gnome
accessibility.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny
	  

Re: what is orca

[Luke Yelavich]

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On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:08:01AM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> export CVSROOT=':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome'
> cvs login
> cvs co orca
> cvs logout

2 lines can do it:
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome login
cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome -z3 co orca

That is what I generally do.
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Re: what is orca

[Janina Sajka]

Better? Try "differently."

It's a proof of concept. The proof was sufficiently strong that further
development can be expected. But, it's by no means ready for prime time
use.

You need to understand something about open source. Development happens
in the open, you get to hear about it, get to play with it, etc., etc.,
long before it's really very useful.

In this open source is radically different from the proprietary software
world you may have been accustomed to where you couldn't get your hands
on any application until it was fairly well cooked.

jim grimsby writes:
> 
> 
> Yes, developmental.
> How well does it work so far?  Does it work better then gnopernicus?
> Where can one goto get it? Thanks. 
> Danny Crone writes:
> > Hello.  Anyone know what Orca is?  Is it a program in the 
> > developmental stage like gnopernicus?
> > 
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> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
> http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org
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> problem.
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Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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Re: what is orca

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:21:06AM +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:08:01AM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> > export CVSROOT=':pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome'
> > cvs login
> > cvs co orca
> > cvs logout
> 
> 2 lines can do it:
> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome login
> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome -z3 co orca
> 
> That is what I generally do.
> -- 

Are you currently successfuly using Orca?  I belive you run a Debian
based distro, and I would like to know if my problem can be easily fixed
by just upgrading a Debian package.

Thanks in advance.
          Kenny

Re: what is orca

[Luke Yelavich]

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On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:48:33AM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Are you currently successfuly using Orca?  I belive you run a Debian
> based distro, and I would like to know if my problem can be easily fixed
> by just upgrading a Debian package.

When I tried running orca a few weeks ago, I had no success.What exactly 
is the error you get? If it is the same as what I get, then I am not 
really sure. I can't exactly remember the error I got, but once I see 
it, I will remember.
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Re: what is orca

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:11:28PM +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> When I tried running orca a few weeks ago, I had no success.What exactly 
> is the error you get? If it is the same as what I get, then I am not 
> really sure. I can't exactly remember the error I got, but once I see 
> it, I will remember.
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kenny@spot:~$ orca-setup
Creating .orca directory.
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/orca-setup", line 49, in ?
      import speech
        File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 20,
	in ?
	    from core import ORBit, bonobo
	    RuntimeError: Can not load accessibility support


	    Gnopernicus 0.10.5 is working on the same system.
	    
	    Thanks in advance.
	              Kenny

Re: what is orca

[Luke Yelavich]

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On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:40:11PM EST, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> kenny@spot:~$ orca-setup
> Creating .orca directory.
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/orca-setup", line 49, in ?
>       import speech
>         File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/orca/speech.py", line 20,
> 	in ?
> 	    from core import ORBit, bonobo
> 	    RuntimeError: Can not load accessibility support
> 
> 
> 	    Gnopernicus 0.10.5 is working on the same system.

Exactly the same error I was getting. I remember slightly altering the 
line that causes this problem, and made it two lines, one for each. It 
is the ORBit call that causes it to crash.

Currently have no ideas at present, but am going to try again on Ubuntu 
Hoary and Debian unstable in the next few days.
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