distro question

distro question

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hi all.

Does anyone know of a speakup-enabled distro which uses system V
startup scripts like slackware, but that has a package management
system like dpkg/apt in debian? Thanks.

Greg


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Re: distro question

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.
I thought Slackware was based on the BSD stile scripts.  I know Debian
uses System V scripts, and The short time I used Slackware showed me
it's init scripts were very different from Debian's or Gentoo's.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 01:48:28PM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Does anyone know of a speakup-enabled distro which uses system V
> startup scripts like slackware, but that has a package management
> system like dpkg/apt in debian? Thanks.
> 
> Greg
> 
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Re: distro question

[Gregory Nowak]

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Oops, I got mixed up. I meant to say bsd scripts, not system V
scripts. Just to clarify in plain English, I do in fact mean the
slackware-style startup scripts.

Greg


On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:43:18PM -0500, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi.
> I thought Slackware was based on the BSD stile scripts.  I know Debian
> uses System V scripts, and The short time I used Slackware showed me
> it's init scripts were very different from Debian's or Gentoo's.
> 
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
> 

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Re: Distro Question

[Toby Fisher]

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, dashielljt wrote:

> Well if Slackware is chosen the only boot and root disks for it are
> slackware 8.0 with kernel version 2.2.19smp.  There's a kernel version
> 2.4.55 available in slackware 8.1 and I think another version of the
> kernel for slackware.current which will become slackware 9.0.  In the
> slackware installation instructions provided for speakup, if there is a
> way to make other kernel choices for installation and have them come up
> talking short of rebuilding a kernel they're undocumented.  Because 2.2.19
> was chosen as the kernel version on which to build and I had used it, I
> can't use my parallel tape backup unit with linux.  That should work with
> kernel 2.4.x and above though.  What slackware provides for ftape are only
> the stable driver which is ftape 3.x.  The thing is, that only works for
> internal tape drives and you have to compile ftape 4.x unstable driver to
> even get those parallel tape drives to work.  That's why the work on the
> sysback script.  Btw, it's promising but so far not finished.  Testing
> shows what I wrote as it'swritten now does work and it uses zip disks for
> backup.

Um, Slackware 8.0 comes with kernel 2.2.19, and also some kernels for
2.4.5, as well as both sets of sources.

Slackware 8.1, that I upgraded to today, has sources for 2.4.18.

Btw, there are instructions for upgrading from slackware 8.0 to 8.1, but
they are at best unstable, seriously not for newbies as there are just so
many things that can go wrong, and did for me.  Make sure, at all costs,
that you have a bootdisk around, I used one from sslackware 8.0 because if
it all went west I could use the root disk, and re-install from the cdrom.

Mind you, I did sort of bring things on myself, cos I didn't use a
Slackware cd, just mounted the iso image via loopback, very interesting,
but it did work.

Cheers.

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Re: Distro Question

[dashielljt]

Well if Slackware is chosen the only boot and root disks for it are
slackware 8.0 with kernel version 2.2.19smp.  There's a kernel version
2.4.55 available in slackware 8.1 and I think another version of the
kernel for slackware.current which will become slackware 9.0.  In the
slackware installation instructions provided for speakup, if there is a
way to make other kernel choices for installation and have them come up
talking short of rebuilding a kernel they're undocumented.  Because 2.2.19
was chosen as the kernel version on which to build and I had used it, I
can't use my parallel tape backup unit with linux.  That should work with
kernel 2.4.x and above though.  What slackware provides for ftape are only
the stable driver which is ftape 3.x.  The thing is, that only works for
internal tape drives and you have to compile ftape 4.x unstable driver to
even get those parallel tape drives to work.  That's why the work on the
sysback script.  Btw, it's promising but so far not finished.  Testing
shows what I wrote as it'swritten now does work and it uses zip disks for
backup.

Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>

Re: Distro Question

[Ralph W. Reid]

Glenn Ervin staggered into view and mumbled:
>
>I still have not decided which distro to use.
>I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
>I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
>256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
>I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
>I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
>uncertain.
>It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
>Can anyone give me any ideas?
>I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
>browsing.
>I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
>or I will set up a floppy for this option.
>Thanks for any input.

I settled on Slackware 8.0 because the files were easy to download
onto my DOS system at the time.  Slackware 8.1 would not be so easy
to download onto an older DOS system because the file names have
changed to values DOS would not know how to handle.  I considered Red Hat Linux first because I wanted to be able to use Word Perfect on Linux, but
it seems that I made the right choice with Slackware since Word
Perfect for Linux is all graphical--absolutely useless for me.  Redd
Hat seems to have a nice embedded applications programming package (I
do not know whether it is accessible for blind people or not), so if
I ever start building robots to be run from a central A. I. here at
home, I might consider switching over to Red Hat.  I am not building
robots though, so I do not expect to change from Slackware any time
soon.  Any of the distros should handle the applications you
mentioned, so you might want to look at how the installation and
upgrade procedures work on each of them to help decide which one to
use.

I hope this helps, and have a _great_ day!


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Re: Distro Question

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Hi,

There are folks on this list happily using all three distros and
doing everything you named and more with them. If there were a
clear favorite I suppose we would all have chosen it by now, but
each of the three will do everything you want it to.

Chuck

On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> I still have not decided which distro to use.
> I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
> I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
> 256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
> I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
> I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
> uncertain.
> It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
> Can anyone give me any ideas?
> I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
> browsing.
> I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
> or I will set up a floppy for this option.
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
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Distro Question

[Glenn Ervin]

I still have not decided which distro to use.
I am not afraid of any type being difficult.
I am simply wanting the most capable distro for using on a current system.
256 MB ram, P5 1.7 GB processor.
I plan on duel-booting with Linux having its own HD.
I have read some documentation on the differences, but I am still left
uncertain.
It seems that Debian, RedHat, and Slackware are the distros of choice.
Can anyone give me any ideas?
I plan on doing much audio (MP3) stuff, and much e-mail, & internet
browsing.
I hope to be able to set up lilo to let me select between windows or Linux,
or I will set up a floppy for this option.
Thanks for any input.



"Live long and prosper",
O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
e-mail:
glennervin@cableone.net
The above address can also be found on MSM.
or my work e-mail:
gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us