Using sftsyn

Using sftsyn

[jim grimsby]

To answer a prevuis message I am aware that using the decpc would not
provide me with speech using software it was a test to see if the device
it self would change it did.  
How ever when I change it to sftsyn the device does not change. 
So like I said this should mean that I do not have the driver installed
as a module or in the kernel.  Is this corect. Also what is the easyist
way to remady this sitchuation before going on.  Speech dispatcher is
working fine with all synthasizers installed flite at the moment is the
default I thought I would get it working with it before moving on to the
dectalk the dectalk is working using dtk-generic as a output module.
The devices have been maid as described in the speakup how to and the
users guide.  Both very nice documents.  I think I will update the
install file here for speechd-up to include the other packages I had to
install to get it working.  
Thanks for all the help so far!

Re: Using sftsyn

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.
What kernel are you using?  Do you know that the softsynth module was
included in your kernel?
Do you know how to find out?
When you can answer these questions, I bet you will know your problem.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:44:26PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> To answer a prevuis message I am aware that using the decpc would not
> provide me with speech using software it was a test to see if the device
> it self would change it did.  
> How ever when I change it to sftsyn the device does not change. 
> So like I said this should mean that I do not have the driver installed
> as a module or in the kernel.  Is this corect. Also what is the easyist
> way to remady this sitchuation before going on.  Speech dispatcher is
> working fine with all synthasizers installed flite at the moment is the
> default I thought I would get it working with it before moving on to the
> dectalk the dectalk is working using dtk-generic as a output module.
> The devices have been maid as described in the speakup how to and the
> users guide.  Both very nice documents.  I think I will update the
> install file here for speechd-up to include the other packages I had to
> install to get it working.  
> Thanks for all the help so far!
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

RE: Using sftsyn

[jim grimsby]

Kernel 2.47 speakup no it is not included as I asertained.  And as your
message you left offering help stated also.  I realy apreshate that
offer of help by the way but I have to get to bed so I can baby sit my
sisters kids again in the morning.   Also good news I called my friend
and she just gave me the accent so there is no longer a dead line.  So I
will hit the books again.  I also am coming in to a old dectalk
sinthasizer as soon as I can get my mom to pick it up for me.  So at
least at this moment I am all set.  I still need to get the software
working though as I bought the dectalk software.  
My plan is to make all of my systems linux based at the end of this
project.  I also have to adment that the way I learned my operating
systems in the past was to get in there and play with it.  In linux I
have found I have had to do a lot more reading. I have been reading a
lot of manuals and documentation. I find the more I learn the more there
is to learn <smile> I realy apreshate all the help so far.  
So where can I find documentation on how to fix this little problem of
not having the module in the kernel. Thanks 

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Subject: Re: Using sftsyn


Hi.
What kernel are you using?  Do you know that the softsynth module was
included in your kernel? Do you know how to find out? When you can
answer these questions, I bet you will know your problem.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:44:26PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> To answer a prevuis message I am aware that using the decpc would not 
> provide me with speech using software it was a test to see if the 
> device it self would change it did.
> How ever when I change it to sftsyn the device does not change. 
> So like I said this should mean that I do not have the driver
installed
> as a module or in the kernel.  Is this corect. Also what is the
easyist
> way to remady this sitchuation before going on.  Speech dispatcher is
> working fine with all synthasizers installed flite at the moment is
the
> default I thought I would get it working with it before moving on to
the
> dectalk the dectalk is working using dtk-generic as a output module.
> The devices have been maid as described in the speakup how to and the
> users guide.  Both very nice documents.  I think I will update the
> install file here for speechd-up to include the other packages I had
to
> install to get it working.  
> Thanks for all the help so far!
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Using sftsyn

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Your next step is to build your kernel and include support for
softsynth.  The docs you will want to read will depend on how you decide
to go.

Do you want to stick with a 2.4 kernel or move to a 2.6 kernel?
Do you want to build the kernel the way described in the kernel source
tree or do you want to be lazy like me and build it as a Debian package?

I know what you mean about the more you learn the more you want to
learn.  One of the cool things about Linux is you can usually find docs
to help you do almost anything you want with your computer.

          Kenny
	  
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 11:56:46PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> Kernel 2.47 speakup no it is not included as I asertained.  And as your
> message you left offering help stated also.  I realy apreshate that
> offer of help by the way but I have to get to bed so I can baby sit my
> sisters kids again in the morning.   Also good news I called my friend
> and she just gave me the accent so there is no longer a dead line.  So I
> will hit the books again.  I also am coming in to a old dectalk
> sinthasizer as soon as I can get my mom to pick it up for me.  So at
> least at this moment I am all set.  I still need to get the software
> working though as I bought the dectalk software.  
> My plan is to make all of my systems linux based at the end of this
> project.  I also have to adment that the way I learned my operating
> systems in the past was to get in there and play with it.  In linux I
> have found I have had to do a lot more reading. I have been reading a
> lot of manuals and documentation. I find the more I learn the more there
> is to learn <smile> I realy apreshate all the help so far.  
> So where can I find documentation on how to fix this little problem of
> not having the module in the kernel. Thanks 
> 

RE: Using sftsyn

[jim grimsby]

Hi.  Your next step is to build your kernel and include support for
softsynth.  The docs you will want to read will depend on how you decide
to go.

Do you want to stick with a 2.4 kernel or move to a 2.6 kernel? Do you
want to build the kernel the way described in the kernel source tree or
do you want to be lazy like me and build it as a Debian package?
Any advantage in upgrading the kernel and as for the second idea is
there any way that one this would help others deebien users if we built
it as a package 
And 2 is there any way we might update what we already have on cd so the
newist kernel is included for one and the soft synth is included for
two.  
I know what you mean about the more you learn the more you want to
learn.  One of the cool things about Linux is you can usually find docs
to help you do almost anything you want with your computer.
The only problem with all this is there are so many things to read that
you find your self reading more and getting less done.  Also the emount
of docs can be over welming at times.  And the web sights for
downloading the docs can be strange.  Everyone keeps saying I should
read a book called linux in a nut shell.  I wonder how I might go about
getting this book.   Thanks again 

Re: Using sftsyn

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 02:02:36PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi.  Your next step is to build your kernel and include support for
> softsynth.  The docs you will want to read will depend on how you decide
> to go.
> 
> Do you want to stick with a 2.4 kernel or move to a 2.6 kernel? Do you
> want to build the kernel the way described in the kernel source tree or
> do you want to be lazy like me and build it as a Debian package?
> Any advantage in upgrading the kernel and as for the second idea is
> there any way that one this would help others deebien users if we built
> it as a package 
> And 2 is there any way we might update what we already have on cd so the
> newist kernel is included for one and the soft synth is included for
> two.  

The biggest advantage to upgrading to a 2.6 kernel is alsa is now part
of the kernel so switching to alsa drivers for your sound card is
easier.  
The answer to your other questions is no.  The package you
build is a local package, not an official Debian package.  Bug reports
will need to be filed against the official Debian speakup kernel package
to fix the softsynth problem.  Even though the cd is unofficial, it is
built using official Debian packages.  It might be possible to rebuild
it using an unofficial Debian package, but I haven't tried it.  When I
used to try rebuilding the old boot floppy installer with an unofficial
kernel package, I always ran into problems.


> I know what you mean about the more you learn the more you want to
> learn.  One of the cool things about Linux is you can usually find docs
> to help you do almost anything you want with your computer.
> The only problem with all this is there are so many things to read that
> you find your self reading more and getting less done.  Also the emount
> of docs can be over welming at times.  And the web sights for
> downloading the docs can be strange.  Everyone keeps saying I should
> read a book called linux in a nut shell.  I wonder how I might go about
> getting this book.   Thanks again 
> 

I think part of the reason you are reading so much now is you are still
new to Linux.  After a point, you have learned enough basic stuff that
you only read when you want to do something new.

Have you looked at the empowermentzone site to see if he has the book
you want?
www.empowermentzone.com

It has a lot of stuff on a lot of subjects, so you will probably need 
to use your browser's search function to find what you want.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny