A program to get the time information

A program to get the time information

[jim grimsby]

Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time
from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I want
a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will allow
me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it will
delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to configure
work well with speakup and easy to use thanks. 

Re: A program to get the time information

[Janina Sajka]

jim grimsby writes:
> Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time
> from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I want

You probably already have rdate and/or ntp. And, if you don't already
have these, you can certainly get them for your distribution of Linux. 

> a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will allow
> me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it will
> delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to configure
> work well with speakup and easy to use thanks. 

Well, I always get nervous when people give out a list of features, but
insist things must be easy, because I'm of the belief that easy and
feature rich are rather antithetical.

So, I won't comment about easy. I will tell you that most of us on this
list use either pine or mutt for email. You probably already have mutt,
or could easily get it for your distro. Mutt would be my recommendation,
but pine is a good choice, too.

Whether you use mutt or pine, you'll need to tweak the configuration in
order to make the mail program blind friendly.

PS: In mutt you can delete a thread of messages by pressing ctrl-d. Is
that what you would call easy?

PPS: To edit the mutt configuration, you edit a text file. Pine has a
built in configuration editor.

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RE: A program to get the time information

[jim grimsby]

Hi, ok now I got rdate ok it is asking for a host name I checked the
info pages no recommended hosts so how the hell do I know witch host to
use.  Thanks for all the help and hope I am not driving any one nuts or
anything.  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:05 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: A program to get the time information


jim grimsby writes:
> Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time 
> from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I 
> want

You probably already have rdate and/or ntp. And, if you don't already
have these, you can certainly get them for your distribution of Linux. 

> a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will 
> allow me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it 
> will delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to 
> configure work well with speakup and easy to use thanks.

Well, I always get nervous when people give out a list of features, but
insist things must be easy, because I'm of the belief that easy and
feature rich are rather antithetical.

So, I won't comment about easy. I will tell you that most of us on this
list use either pine or mutt for email. You probably already have mutt,
or could easily get it for your distro. Mutt would be my recommendation,
but pine is a good choice, too.

Whether you use mutt or pine, you'll need to tweak the configuration in
order to make the mail program blind friendly.

PS: In mutt you can delete a thread of messages by pressing ctrl-d. Is
that what you would call easy?

PPS: To edit the mutt configuration, you edit a text file. Pine has a
built in configuration editor.

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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC
http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different
problem.


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RE: A program to get the time information

[jim grimsby]

Hi, ok any one else have this question  about  how to find a time server
go to http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/service/time-servers.html
Answered my own question for a change thanks for all the help and hope
this url helps.  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of jim grimsby
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:29 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: A program to get the time information


Hi, ok now I got rdate ok it is asking for a host name I checked the
info pages no recommended hosts so how the hell do I know witch host to
use.  Thanks for all the help and hope I am not driving any one nuts or
anything.  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 3:05 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: A program to get the time information


jim grimsby writes:
> Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time
> from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I 
> want

You probably already have rdate and/or ntp. And, if you don't already
have these, you can certainly get them for your distribution of Linux. 

> a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will
> allow me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it 
> will delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to 
> configure work well with speakup and easy to use thanks.

Well, I always get nervous when people give out a list of features, but
insist things must be easy, because I'm of the belief that easy and
feature rich are rather antithetical.

So, I won't comment about easy. I will tell you that most of us on this
list use either pine or mutt for email. You probably already have mutt,
or could easily get it for your distro. Mutt would be my recommendation,
but pine is a good choice, too.

Whether you use mutt or pine, you'll need to tweak the configuration in
order to make the mail program blind friendly.

PS: In mutt you can delete a thread of messages by pressing ctrl-d. Is
that what you would call easy?

PPS: To edit the mutt configuration, you edit a text file. Pine has a
built in configuration editor.

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Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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problem.


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Re: A program to get the time information

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.
Sounds like you want rdate and mutt.  You will need a script or a cron
job to call rdate.  In my view, mutt beats any mail client I've ever
used in DOS or Windows.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny
	  
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 01:55:32PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time
> from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I want
> a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will allow
> me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it will
> delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to configure
> work well with speakup and easy to use thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: A program to get the time information

[Janina Sajka]

You're right. I honestly don't remember when I first found a server host
address that I've now used for years with rdate:

time-b.nist.gov

However, you may as well figure out how to set your system up with ntp.
Then you can just forget all of this, and your clock will always be
correct.

http://www.pool.ntp.org/

PS: You probably also have an ntpdate command.

jim grimsby writes:
> Hi, ok now I got rdate ok it is asking for a host name I checked the
> info pages no recommended hosts so how the hell do I know witch host to
> use.  Thanks for all the help and hope I am not driving any one nuts or
> anything.  

Re: A program to get the time information

[Ralph W. Reid]

To set your system time with one or more time servers on internet, I
very much recommend `ntpd` (is there anything else?).  Ntpd can be set
up to get time from one or more servers, and can serve time for
systems on your LAN if desired.  Chances are that is patiently sitting
on your hard drive as you read this, eagerly waiting for you to set it
up and get it running.

As for the email client with the grouping/threading features you
describe, it looks like `mutt` may do the job, and there are probably
others as well.

HTH, and have a _great_ day!

On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 01:55:32PM -0800, jim grimsby wrote:
> Hi, I would like a program that I could setup that will get the time
> from the internet every boot up would be enough any ideas.  Also I want
> a easy to use email program that works well with speakup that will allow
> me to sort messages by subject and when you delete a subject it will
> delete the messages in that subject.  Want it to be easy to configure
> work well with speakup and easy to use thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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