Need help getting debian installation media speaking

Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Michael Whapples]

Hello,
I need some help getting Debian sarge installed. I believed that debian now 
has speakup included in the main distro, but when I tried starting it with 
the speakup_synth parameter, it never spoke. So I tried the boot floppies 
from the speakup website, which worked, except my computer stopped 
responding to the keyboard when I loaded the first disk, but everything else 
was ready for the next disk. I tried doing things like disable usb support, 
but no success. So I tried the CD image from the speakup website, but I 
could not get speakup talking with that. Can anyone help with this? If not 
then I will look at other distributions, but the others seem to have their 
own problems, gentoo software speech doesn't seem to work well and slackware 
requires most programs which will be used to be manually built from source. 
I don't intend to use fedora, there seems to be too many problems when it is 
updated because speakup is not in the standard distribution.
From
Mike
"An optimist is someone who has never had much experience" 

Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:13:46 AM -0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> I need some help getting Debian sarge installed. I believed that debian now 

I believe currently the best way to install is using Shane's modified
netinst iso at http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup but I
haven't used it for an install so I can't be sure.

> has speakup included in the main distro, but when I tried starting it with 
> the speakup_synth parameter, it never spoke. So I tried the boot floppies 

Yes speakup is included in Debian, but it is still not easily available
on the installation media. You are still almost certainly going to want
to roll your own kernel with the latest and greatest speakup in it
one day.

[snip]

> I don't intend to use fedora, there seems to be too many problems when
> it is updated because speakup is not in the standard distribution.

I hope your wearing fire retardent clothing with a statement like that
*grin*

HTH

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi Michael and everyone,

	The best speakup-enabled Debian installer that I've seen so far is at:

http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/

	Thanks Shane!

	The CD image that I got there was from January 27/05.

	Boot with the CD, when the disk stops spinning type:

	speakup speakup_synth=<your synth>

 and it installs everything you want from the net.

	Hope this helps, Debian is a great OS.

	--terry

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:13:46AM -0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> I need some help getting Debian sarge installed. I believed that debian now 
> has speakup included in the main distro, but when I tried starting it with 
> the speakup_synth parameter, it never spoke. So I tried the boot floppies 
> from the speakup website, which worked, except my computer stopped 
> responding to the keyboard when I loaded the first disk, but everything 
> else was ready for the next disk. I tried doing things like disable usb 
> support, but no success. So I tried the CD image from the speakup website, 
> but I could not get speakup talking with that. Can anyone help with this? 
> If not then I will look at other distributions, but the others seem to have 
> their own problems, gentoo software speech doesn't seem to work well and 
> slackware requires most programs which will be used to be manually built 
> from source. I don't intend to use fedora, there seems to be too many 
> problems when it is updated because speakup is not in the standard 
> distribution.
> From
> Mike
> "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience" 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Name:	Terry D. Cudney
Phone:	(705) 422-0039
E-mail:	terry@wasaga.dyns.net

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Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Sean McMahon]

On the subject of debian, does debian include speakup if you just downloaded the
official iso images?
Sean
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Subject: Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking


> Hi Michael and everyone,
>
> The best speakup-enabled Debian installer that I've seen so far is at:
>
> http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/
>
> Thanks Shane!
>
> The CD image that I got there was from January 27/05.
>
> Boot with the CD, when the disk stops spinning type:
>
> speakup speakup_synth=<your synth>
>
>  and it installs everything you want from the net.
>
> Hope this helps, Debian is a great OS.
>
> --terry
>
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:13:46AM -0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I need some help getting Debian sarge installed. I believed that debian now
> > has speakup included in the main distro, but when I tried starting it with
> > the speakup_synth parameter, it never spoke. So I tried the boot floppies
> > from the speakup website, which worked, except my computer stopped
> > responding to the keyboard when I loaded the first disk, but everything
> > else was ready for the next disk. I tried doing things like disable usb
> > support, but no success. So I tried the CD image from the speakup website,
> > but I could not get speakup talking with that. Can anyone help with this?
> > If not then I will look at other distributions, but the others seem to have
> > their own problems, gentoo software speech doesn't seem to work well and
> > slackware requires most programs which will be used to be manually built
> > from source. I don't intend to use fedora, there seems to be too many
> > problems when it is updated because speakup is not in the standard
> > distribution.
> > From
> > Mike
> > "An optimist is someone who has never had much experience"
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Name: Terry D. Cudney
> Phone: (705) 422-0039
> E-mail: terry@wasaga.dyns.net
>
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.

On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:30:14AM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote:
> On the subject of debian, does debian include speakup if you just downloaded the
> official iso images?

No.

          Kenny

Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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The standard Debian Sarge CD image unfortunately doesn't include Speakup.  I used
the image found at:

http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/sarge-i386-speakup-20050129.iso

to get a talking install.  Unfortunately, this image doesn't include software
speech support out of the box, as I found out when trying to get a talking
install on my laptop which doesn't have a serial port for a hardware synth.  If
you do happen to have a hardware synth and a place to plug it into your PC, you
can build the speechd-up program from source once Debian is installed to
ultimately use software speech.  The nice thing about Debian is that speechd-up
is one of very few programs you will ever need to build from source, unless you
just like to compile source code. <grin>  I currently only have 3 binaries in
/usr/local/bin.

And mp3 support is built into Debian, unlike Fedora, which
makes you jump through hoops to get it.

I hope this helps you at least a little, and please don't give up on Debian.  It
rocks!

Lorenzo
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RE: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[jim grimsby]

Ok sounds good after you get it installed with speakup what needs to be done
to get gnome support.  Is the screen reader included with it?  Thanks.  

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The standard Debian Sarge CD image unfortunately doesn't include Speakup.  I
used the image found at:

http://people.debian.org/~shane/netinst-speakup/sarge-i386-speakup-20050129.
iso

to get a talking install.  Unfortunately, this image doesn't include
software speech support out of the box, as I found out when trying to get a
talking install on my laptop which doesn't have a serial port for a hardware
synth.  If you do happen to have a hardware synth and a place to plug it
into your PC, you can build the speechd-up program from source once Debian
is installed to ultimately use software speech.  The nice thing about Debian
is that speechd-up is one of very few programs you will ever need to build
from source, unless you just like to compile source code. <grin>  I
currently only have 3 binaries in /usr/local/bin.

And mp3 support is built into Debian, unlike Fedora, which makes you jump
through hoops to get it.

I hope this helps you at least a little, and please don't give up on Debian.
It rocks!

Lorenzo
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Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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The entire Gnome desktop should install with:

apt-get install gnome

And the Gnome screen reader installs with:

apt-get install gnopernicus

And if you want screen magnification:

apt-get install gnome-mag

Any or all of those packages can be combined on one line.  E.G.

apt-get install gnome gnopernicus

Good luck,
Lorenzo
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RE: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[jim grimsby]

Hi,  thanks this is starting to look better and better so in other words if
I type thoughs below commands it will download it and install it is that
right? 
Sorry I have just been using orlux and now want to get a real linux system
the idea behind oralux is good but it has a long way to go.  Also I was
wondering does any one know where I might be able to get a copy of out loud.
I know that I b m stopped making this sytnasizer but I really could use a
copy tried flite free and festable with oralux and had trouble understanding
them.  I might just have to brake down and by dectalk 5.  does out loud work
with speakup or the dectalk 5.  thanks


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The entire Gnome desktop should install with:

apt-get install gnome

And the Gnome screen reader installs with:

apt-get install gnopernicus

And if you want screen magnification:

apt-get install gnome-mag

Any or all of those packages can be combined on one line.  E.G.

apt-get install gnome gnopernicus

Good luck,
Lorenzo
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Re: Need help getting debian installation media speaking

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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Debian is really nice because apt-get does do everything for you from downloading
to installing to resolving dependencies.

As for outloud, I have a copy on my box, but it is so old it seems incompatible
with the new c libraries.  If you want to try to get it working, you can get it
from:

ftp://taylor.homelinux.net/software/viavoice

You will need both the rtk and sdk if I remember correctly.

I am not sure if this will work with Speech Dispatcher, (the program that makes
Speakup talk with software speech), but I do believe DecTalk does, although I
personally only have experience with Speakup and hardware speech, so I could be
wrong.

Good luck,
Lorenzo
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