abcde for fedora?

abcde for fedora?

[Cheryl Homiak]

Does anybody know where I can get a download of abcde and any needed 
dependencies for fedora? I could only find a suse rpm and anyway I wasn't 
sure it was up-to-date. I really like abcde and used it on debian.
Thanks.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Janina Sajka]

Several places. I would suggest ftp.freshrpms.net.

PS: A good way to discover these is to use Google and a search string
like "apt Fedora rpm" Works very well.



Cheryl Homiak writes:
> Does anybody know where I can get a download of abcde and any needed 
> dependencies for fedora? I could only find a suse rpm and anyway I wasn't 
> sure it was up-to-date. I really like abcde and used it on debian.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Cheryl Homiak]

I had used fedora rpm but hadn't found anything; will try the url you 
suggest. And maybe using "apt" will make a difference.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: abcde for fedora?

[David Bruzos]

Hi:
Fedora comes with a package manager called "yum" which provides similar functionality to "apt".  I like yum very very 
much.  It is simple to use and very powerful.  There are many yum rpm databases on the net too. Most software 
you would ever need you can get by typing:
# yum install package1 package2 package3 ...

The only disadvantage of "yum" is that it is much slower than "apt", because it is written in python.  However, it does 
not really matter, because the handling of RPMS is performed by the "rpm" program, which runs at full speed...  You 
might just see that it takes a long time to find dependencies and stuff like that.  I use it 
on a 300 MHZ machine without any problems, so most people should not have problems either.

David Bruzos


On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:36:00AM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> I had used fedora rpm but hadn't found anything; will try the url you 
> suggest. And maybe using "apt" will make a difference.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: abcde for fedora?

[Sean McMahon]

Do you find that works better then  the rpmfind website? Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: abcde for fedora?


> Several places. I would suggest ftp.freshrpms.net.
> 
> PS: A good way to discover these is to use Google and a search string
> like "apt Fedora rpm" Works very well.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheryl Homiak writes:
> > Does anybody know where I can get a download of abcde and any needed 
> > dependencies for fedora? I could only find a suse rpm and anyway I wasn't 
> > sure it was up-to-date. I really like abcde and used it on debian.
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Cheryl
> > 
> > "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Janina Sajka]

Cheryl Homiak writes:
> I had used fedora rpm but hadn't found anything; will try the url you 
> suggest. And maybe using "apt" will make a difference.
> 

What are you trying to do? What is the difference you seek?

On Fedora, apt, yum, and up2date are three separate meta-applications
for managing rpm, but rpm is still at the core. In this it functions
somewhat similarly to dpkg and .deb files on Debian, for instance.

				Janina

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Janina Sajka]

Yum is my current favorite. It's rather yummy.

I do still keep an apt on my system, but only because the Planet CCRMA
repository is not yet yumable.

David Bruzos writes:
> Hi:
> Fedora comes with a package manager called "yum" which provides similar functionality to "apt".  I like yum very very 
> much.  It is simple to use and very powerful.  There are many yum rpm databases on the net too. Most software 
> you would ever need you can get by typing:
> # yum install package1 package2 package3 ...
> 
> The only disadvantage of "yum" is that it is much slower than "apt", because it is written in python.  However, it does 
> not really matter, because the handling of RPMS is performed by the "rpm" program, which runs at full speed...  You 
> might just see that it takes a long time to find dependencies and stuff like that.  I use it 
> on a 300 MHZ machine without any problems, so most people should not have problems either.
> 
> David Bruzos
> 

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Janina Sajka]

Yes, I prefer Google these days.

Sean McMahon writes:
> Do you find that works better then  the rpmfind website? Sean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: abcde for fedora?
> 
> 
> > Several places. I would suggest ftp.freshrpms.net.
> > 
> > PS: A good way to discover these is to use Google and a search string
> > like "apt Fedora rpm" Works very well.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheryl Homiak writes:
> > > Does anybody know where I can get a download of abcde and any needed 
> > > dependencies for fedora? I could only find a suse rpm and anyway I wasn't 
> > > sure it was up-to-date. I really like abcde and used it on debian.
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Cheryl
> > > 
> > > "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Janina Sajka, Chair
> > Accessibility Workgroup
> > Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > 
> > janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: abcde for fedora?

[Janina Sajka]

However, since we're on the subject of finding rpms and also of using
rpm management meta-applications like yum, I think it important to
strongly suggest the use of rpmdb.

What is it? It's a rpm packaged database of dependencies. If you've ever
received an rpm error that says I can't install X because you don't have
Y, you'll appreciate rpmdb. If you have rpm db installed, you still get
the above error, but with a critical enhancement. You also get "Suggest
you install package Z to satisfy this dependency."