problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi all.
I'm having no problems burning data cds on FC2 with an atapi cdrw and 
2.6.8.1 kernel.
However, when I try to burn an audio cd, I get everything normal up 
through "operation starts"; then I get "trackno=0" and after a while I get 
indications of out-of-memory and processes being killed. I've had nothing 
else to indicate a memory problem. When cdrecord starts it says it's an 
experimental version with dvd support and may have bugs not found in the 
normal version.
I'm desperate, because I promised to burn audio cds for somebody.
The lines I'm using in my burning script is
#!/bin/sh
cdrecord -eject speed=2 dev=/dev/hdc -audio 01.cdr 02.cdr

Thanks for any help.

-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Cheryl,

I am pretty sure this is exactly the problem that Paul Migs ran into and
eventually had to downgrade his kernel to 2.4.X to solve.

Chuck


On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Hi all.
> I'm having no problems burning data cds on FC2 with an atapi cdrw and 2.6.8.1 
> kernel.
> However, when I try to burn an audio cd, I get everything normal up through 
> "operation starts"; then I get "trackno=0" and after a while I get 
> indications of out-of-memory and processes being killed. I've had nothing 
> else to indicate a memory problem. When cdrecord starts it says it's an 
> experimental version with dvd support and may have bugs not found in the 
> normal version.
> I'm desperate, because I promised to burn audio cds for somebody.
> The lines I'm using in my burning script is
> #!/bin/sh
> cdrecord -eject speed=2 dev=/dev/hdc -audio 01.cdr 02.cdr
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Chuck.
Actually, I think paul's burned but he got all sorts of noise when he 
tried to play it.
I'm going to be really mad if I have to do a 2.4 kernel just for burning 
audio cds.
Besides, I've been burning audio cds with a 2.6 kernel for a while, though 
I'm not sure i'd done it with 2.6.8.1.
maybe I should try finding something other than cdrecord and see if it's a 
cdrecord problem.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[akp]

Hi Cheryl,

You using Debian?  If so, your cd burner is now located in
/media/cdrom  and would be either 0 or 1, depending on where it is.
Did you run -scanbus?  Did you get other errors?  Is the code correct
in your script? 

If you mean data cd's your script should look something like the
below.

#!/bin/sh
exec cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,1,0 -data $1


The audio script should look a bit different.  getting these things to
work is a Hell of a thing! 

Ann P.

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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Actually, as I did say in my post, i'm trying to burn audio cds not data.
Scanbus shows my cdrw at 1,0,0 but it's atapi and with the 2.6 kernels you 
aren't supposed to have to do the scsi emulation thing. I did actually try 
running it with 1,0,0 but then of course I got errors because I don't have 
/dev/hdc linked as scsi; anyway, this code works fine for data cds (with 
the appropriate changes of course) so the /dev/hdc should be fine.

I do know that some people have trouble getting their cdburners to work, 
but frankly this hasn't been a big problem for me up to now, and the fact 
that the data record works and the audio does not tells me there's a 
problem with cdrecord or the kernel or something related.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:28:40 AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Actually, as I did say in my post, i'm trying to burn audio cds not data.
> Scanbus shows my cdrw at 1,0,0 but it's atapi and with the 2.6 kernels you 
> aren't supposed to have to do the scsi emulation thing. I did actually try 
> running it with 1,0,0 but then of course I got errors because I don't have 
> /dev/hdc linked as scsi; anyway, this code works fine for data cds (with 
> the appropriate changes of course) so the /dev/hdc should be fine.

Are you using "dev=ATAPI:1,0,0" instead of just "dev=1,0,0" this is
supposed to be the new way to handle atapi drives. I have burned quite a
few cd's both data and audio using the atapi driver and although
cdrecord complains like crazy I haven't made any coasters yet. Once you
get a device setting that works you can put it in /etc/default/cdrecord
and avoid it on the command line.

> I do know that some people have trouble getting their cdburners to work, 
> but frankly this hasn't been a big problem for me up to now, and the fact 
> that the data record works and the audio does not tells me there's a 
> problem with cdrecord or the kernel or something related.

- From what I can tell the cdrecord people and the kernel people are mad
at each other or something. It seems we should all be using solarus.

- -- 
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Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

No, i hadn't realized that putting ATAPI: on the front was now the way to 
do it. Will try that; the last I read,/dev/hdc was supposed to be ok and 
it is working for data.



-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

no, using ATAPI:1,0,0 didn't make any difference, and I am making 
coasters. apparently it maybe does start trying to burn the cd but then I 
get out-of-memory indications and things start getting killed off. I don't 
know if FC2 has something running that is sucking out that much memory or 
what the deal is, but I'm definitely frustrated. Does it take more memory 
to burn an audio cd than a data cd? Memory has never been an issue in 
burning audio cds in the past for me. I do have 256MB of memory. And I can 
run freedombox, which involves using X, without any problems of memory. So 
I'm puzzled.
Since this worked fairly recently with debian, and I think I even did 
audio burning with the 2.6.8.1 kernel, either I've suddenly developed a 
memory problem or it's specific to Fedora Core 2 or there's something else 
I'm not taking into account.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Well, a google search did reveal some talk of a memory leak when doing 
audio cds using the 2.6.8.1 kernel. This might be what i am experiencing. 
So i could try an earlier kernel or see if it's been fixed in 2.6.9.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Janina Sajka]

Well, the machine I do most of my burns on is running 2.6.8-1.521spk,
but others have reported issues with audio burns on 2.6.8. Not sure what
the latest is at the moment because bumpy is off line for some reason.

Cheryl Homiak writes:
> Well, a google search did reveal some talk of a memory leak when doing 
> audio cds using the 2.6.8.1 kernel. This might be what i am experiencing. 
> So i could try an earlier kernel or see if it's been fixed in 2.6.9.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> 
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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Janina Sajka]

All I can tell you is that I'm having no problems burning audio or data
with cdrecord under Fedora 2 using an old Pentium 2 system that clocks
at 350 Mhz and has only 192 Mb RAM.

What command are you using? Pardon if I missed that in an earlier post.

Cheryl Homiak writes:
> No, i hadn't realized that putting ATAPI: on the front was now the way to 
> do it. Will try that; the last I read,/dev/hdc was supposed to be ok and 
> it is working for data.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> 
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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Janina.
I have tried the following lines in my script which have worked in the 
past with 2.6 kernels:

#!/bin/sh
cdrecord -eject speed=2 dev=/dev/hdc -audio 01.cdr 02.cdr

I have also tried substituting
ATAPI:1,0,0
for the /dev/hdc part. both seem to start up but then I get the
trackno=0
and after a while a bunch of out-of-memory errors.
I'm not sure why a memory leak would affect my computer and not yours, but 
that's no great surprise since I don't know that much about memory leaks 
in the first please. There was a mention in linuxtoday of such a memory 
leak and that it should generate a linux-2.6.8.2 but it didn't. I think my 
best next diagnostic move would be to try another 2.6 kernel and see if 
the problem goes away.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Adam Myrow]

On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> I think my best next diagnostic move would be to try another 2.6 kernel 
> and see if the problem goes away.

Probably a good idea, but you may also want to get some CDRW media so you 
can avoid generating coasters.  After all, there are only so many coasters 
one can have!

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yeah, I was thinking of selling them as coasters as part of a 
fund-raiser!!!
Unfortunately i can't go anywhere today and I really need to solve this 
problem as soon as possible, so look for the debut of my new company, 
Coasters Unlimited!!!


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord: solved

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes, apparently it is a kernel problem. I got the 2.6.9 kernel source--not 
Redhat rpm but used "make oldconfig" and patched in cvs kernel. I still 
get
trackno=0
after the "operation starts" indication--not sure what that means--but the 
audio cds do record now. So I guess my advice to anybody having problems 
recording audio cds with 2.6.8.1 if you've been able to do it with other 
2.6 kernels would be to change kernels.
thanks for all the advice; I'll be glad to send everybody who contributed 
a few coasters in appreciation!!!


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord: solved

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Congratulations! You ought to have a party with all those coasters.


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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Sean McMahon]

Because I no nothing about burning cds on linux, why would you burn your audio
cd at such a slow speed?
Sean
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Subject: Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord


> Hi Janina.
> I have tried the following lines in my script which have worked in the
> past with 2.6 kernels:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> cdrecord -eject speed=2 dev=/dev/hdc -audio 01.cdr 02.cdr
>
> I have also tried substituting
> ATAPI:1,0,0
> for the /dev/hdc part. both seem to start up but then I get the
> trackno=0
> and after a while a bunch of out-of-memory errors.
> I'm not sure why a memory leak would affect my computer and not yours, but
> that's no great surprise since I don't know that much about memory leaks
> in the first please. There was a mention in linuxtoday of such a memory
> leak and that it should generate a linux-2.6.8.2 but it didn't. I think my
> best next diagnostic move would be to try another 2.6 kernel and see if
> the problem goes away.
>
>
> -- 
> Cheryl
>
> "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
>
>
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Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Luke Yelavich]

On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 12:37:29AM EST, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Hi all.
> I'm having no problems burning data cds on FC2 with an atapi cdrw and 
> 2.6.8.1 kernel.
> However, when I try to burn an audio cd, I get everything normal up 
> through "operation starts"; then I get "trackno=0" and after a while I get 
> indications of out-of-memory and processes being killed. I've had nothing 
> else to indicate a memory problem. When cdrecord starts it says it's an 
> experimental version with dvd support and may have bugs not found in the 
> normal version.

Hi Cheryl
Beofre 2.6.9 came out, I happened to come accross a patch which fixes 
this 2.6.8.1 issue. I also remember passing this patch along to someone 
else on this list, and I am pretty sure it worked for them.

If you have any problems with 2.6.9 compilation, feel free to contact me 
and I will send the patch along.

Luke

Re: problems with burning audio cds with cdrecord

[Cheryl Homiak]

Thanks Luke.
Even though audio burning is working with 2.6.9, I am getting one strange 
warning in the start up--something about this part of the kernel seeming 
to be unmaintained and there being absolutely no dma so the process is 
slow. I also notice that with the 2.6.9 kernel it's trying to use acpi, 
while on previous kernels it said something about my bios being too old 
and turned it off; maybe I should turn this off, though I don't know if it 
has anything to do with the dma warning when recording. When I run dmesg, 
dma is indicated for the cdrw and I looked at the kernel config and it's 
definitely there.


-- 
Cheryl

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."