* battery on notebook
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From: Juan Hernandez @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how I can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
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battery on notebook Juan Hernandez
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From: hank @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
how did you upgrade the speak up kirnel? do they also have a debian kirnel
speakup based 2.6.7?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
To: "speakup" <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:57 PM
Subject: battery on notebook
> Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel
> 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how I
> can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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From: Juan Hernandez @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Bill Acker, the guy that builds the speakup enabled fedora core isos,
creates rpm upgrades of the kernels. its really great.
----- Original Message -----
From: "hank" <hank@hanksmith.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: battery on notebook
> how did you upgrade the speak up kirnel? do they also have a debian kirnel
> speakup based 2.6.7?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
> To: "speakup" <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:57 PM
> Subject: battery on notebook
>
>
> > Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel
> > 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how
I
> > can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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` Juan Hernandez
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From: hank @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
has any one done any debian upgrades of the kirnels? or makes them?
I should have asked my question a bit more clearer my sencier apologies.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: battery on notebook
> Bill Acker, the guy that builds the speakup enabled fedora core isos,
> creates rpm upgrades of the kernels. its really great.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hank" <hank@hanksmith.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: battery on notebook
>
>
>> how did you upgrade the speak up kirnel? do they also have a debian
>> kirnel
>> speakup based 2.6.7?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
>> To: "speakup" <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:57 PM
>> Subject: battery on notebook
>>
>>
>> > Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel
>> > 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how
> I
>> > can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >
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From: Luke Yelavich @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:57:31PM EST, Juan Hernandez wrote:
> Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how I can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
Before you can determine how much battery you have left, you need to work out
whether you are using ACPI or apm. To do this, find out whether there is a
directory under /proc called acpi. Do the following:
ls /proc/acpi
If you get a few items back, you have acpi installed. To find out whether you
have apm running, do the following.
ls /proc/apm
If you get a response back that isn't an error message, you have apm. Note
that you can't have both at the same time. You can only have one or the other.
If you have apm, it is quite easy to determine battery life. Simply type apm
which will give you all the info you need to know.
However, ACPI is a little more complicated. You then have to work out whether
you have the battery module either loaded, or compiled into your kernel.
My guess is that it will be a module.
To work this out, try and go to the /proc/acpi/battery directory.
cd /proc/acpi/battery
If this doesn't exist, you will need to load the battery module. I think the
module name is battery, so do the following.
modprobe battery
All being well, the /proc/acpi/battery directory should exist now. Under this
directory, there will be one or more directories. If your laptop has 2 or more
batteries, there will be a directory for each battery giving you information
about the batteries. The best way to find out the amount of life left in the
battery is to do the following.
luke@luke-laptop:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
present: yes
capacity state: ok
charging state: charged
present rate: 0 mW
remaining capacity: 42420 mWh
present voltage: 12376 mV
The second last line is what you are interested in. It gives you the remaining
capacity, but doesn't give it to you in percentages.
I hope this helps, and if anybody knows how to check ACPI battery capacity
and display a percentage, I would love to know.
Luke
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
As far as I know there hasn't been much success with acpi yet, even
though it is now bundled with Fedora. In fact, many people run with acpi
off in order to avoid various kinds of system quirks.
To answer the original question directly:
apm -m
Luke Yelavich writes:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:57:31PM EST, Juan Hernandez wrote:
> > Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how I can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
>
> Before you can determine how much battery you have left, you need to work out
> whether you are using ACPI or apm. To do this, find out whether there is a
> directory under /proc called acpi. Do the following:
>
> ls /proc/acpi
>
> If you get a few items back, you have acpi installed. To find out whether you
> have apm running, do the following.
>
> ls /proc/apm
>
> If you get a response back that isn't an error message, you have apm. Note
> that you can't have both at the same time. You can only have one or the other.
>
> If you have apm, it is quite easy to determine battery life. Simply type apm
> which will give you all the info you need to know.
>
> However, ACPI is a little more complicated. You then have to work out whether
> you have the battery module either loaded, or compiled into your kernel.
> My guess is that it will be a module.
>
> To work this out, try and go to the /proc/acpi/battery directory.
>
> cd /proc/acpi/battery
>
> If this doesn't exist, you will need to load the battery module. I think the
> module name is battery, so do the following.
>
> modprobe battery
>
> All being well, the /proc/acpi/battery directory should exist now. Under this
> directory, there will be one or more directories. If your laptop has 2 or more
> batteries, there will be a directory for each battery giving you information
> about the batteries. The best way to find out the amount of life left in the
> battery is to do the following.
>
> luke@luke-laptop:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
> present: yes
> capacity state: ok
> charging state: charged
> present rate: 0 mW
> remaining capacity: 42420 mWh
> present voltage: 12376 mV
>
> The second last line is what you are interested in. It gives you the remaining
> capacity, but doesn't give it to you in percentages.
>
> I hope this helps, and if anybody knows how to check ACPI battery capacity
> and display a percentage, I would love to know.
>
> Luke
>
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@ Sean M McMahon
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From: Sean M McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
You upgrade rpms using info you can find from the rpm man page. To find
if they have a deb for 2.6.7 kernels of speakup use aptitude wwith the /
followed by your search string or other apt searching methods. The debs
are called kernel-image-##.##-speakup where ## refers to the version of
the kernel you want. Because debian is kernel independent, does not
require a particular kernel, using an upgrade with apt will not
automatically upgrade your kernel. It may upgrade within the same
version, 2.4.26 to 2.4.27 but I haven't tested that one.
"hank" <hank@hanksmith.net>
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09/28/2004 09:16 PM
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how did you upgrade the speak up kirnel? do they also have a debian kirnel
speakup based 2.6.7?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
To: "speakup" <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 8:57 PM
Subject: battery on notebook
> Hello everyone, I have a sony Vaio fxa53, I'm running fedora c2, kernel
> 2.6.8.1 that I rpm upgraded from the speakup ftp. I'd like to know how
I
> can determine how much life my battery has? thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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From: Sean M McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for
laptops? How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the
numberpad of a regular keyboard?
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Sure is, and probably installed by default.
The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
next line.
This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
E becomes current line.
Sean M McMahon writes:
> While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for
> laptops? How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the
> numberpad of a regular keyboard?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
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@ Sean M McMahon
` Janina Sajka
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From: Sean M McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
So going off of what you provided, capslock-j, capslock-k and capslock-l
would read prev, current, and next word? And capslock with n, m, and .
will do read by character functions? Where are the other keys for
cut/paste and the shutup key key?
Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Sent by: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
09/29/2004 10:56 AM
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Sure is, and probably installed by default.
The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
next line.
This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
E becomes current line.
Sean M McMahon writes:
> While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for
> laptops? How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the
> numberpad of a regular keyboard?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina
Sajka, Chair
Accessibility Workgroup
Free
Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
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` Luke Yelavich
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Yes, you've got it. The beauty of a well defined keymap.
Now, where are the rest of the keys? There's a documentation file, but
off the top of my head I don't recall where the canonical location of
that file is.
If you have a kernel source tree, it's probably in there.
A little poking around and we should be able to find it. I'll look. But
perhaps, someone just knows?
Sean M McMahon writes:
> So going off of what you provided, capslock-j, capslock-k and capslock-l
> would read prev, current, and next word? And capslock with n, m, and .
> will do read by character functions? Where are the other keys for
> cut/paste and the shutup key key?
>
>
>
>
> Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
> Sent by: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> 09/29/2004 10:56 AM
> Please respond to "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
>
>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> cc:
> Subject: Re: battery on notebook
>
>
> Sure is, and probably installed by default.
>
> The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
> keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
> next line.
>
> This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
> save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
> shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
> computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
> numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
>
> What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
> these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
> the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
> qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
> E becomes current line.
>
> Sean M McMahon writes:
> > While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for
> > laptops? How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the
> > numberpad of a regular keyboard?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Janina
> Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free
> Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Luke Yelavich
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From: Luke Yelavich @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:13:20AM EST, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Now, where are the rest of the keys? There's a documentation file, but
> off the top of my head I don't recall where the canonical location of
> that file is.
>
> If you have a kernel source tree, it's probably in there.
>
> A little poking around and we should be able to find it. I'll look. But
> perhaps, someone just knows?
Try speakup + F1, which puts you in a mini help mode. Some commands are not
assigned, but the majority of the necessary ones are.
Speakup in this case is either capslock or numpad 0.
Luke
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` Luke Yelavich
@ ` Janina Sajka
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Of course! How could I have forgotten that wonderful little builtin help
command! Silly me.
Luke Yelavich writes:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 09:13:20AM EST, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Now, where are the rest of the keys? There's a documentation file, but
> > off the top of my head I don't recall where the canonical location of
> > that file is.
> >
> > If you have a kernel source tree, it's probably in there.
> >
> > A little poking around and we should be able to find it. I'll look. But
> > perhaps, someone just knows?
>
> Try speakup + F1, which puts you in a mini help mode. Some commands are not
> assigned, but the majority of the necessary ones are.
>
> Speakup in this case is either capslock or numpad 0.
>
> Luke
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
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Accessibility Workgroup
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janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
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From: Sean M McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Good! Thanks folks. Now I know what that speakup keyhelp module is for.
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