Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Sean M McMahon]

I know this is meant  more for Janina specifically, but fyi, a provider 
carying the cellphone is the biggest hertal I've found so far.  You have 
to get the accessable cellphone through your provider, unless you want to 
buy it unlocked and find out later it won't work for you.    Atnt for 
example, only carried 1 of the phones for mobile accessibility according 
to the sails person and  that phone wasn't on the mobile accessibility 
website. </rant>
Sean

Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Janina Sajka]

In GSM phones this isn't strictly true. For example, you can buy a SIM
card without buying a phone, and you can then place that SIM in a GSM
phone. Of course, there are ways to block this that some carriers use
such as locking a particular telephone device to a particular chip.
However, it is quite common to simply put a SIM card in any phone. Of
course, this practice is better known where GSM is more commonly used,
such as in Europe.

Having said this, it is certainly our hope and expectation to offer the
Owasys 22C through service providers both in the U.S. and in Canada. In
Europe the 22C is already available in Spain, and will be made available
through various providers elsewhere in Europe soon.

Sean M McMahon writes:
> I know this is meant  more for Janina specifically, but fyi, a provider 
> carying the cellphone is the biggest hertal I've found so far.  You have 
> to get the accessable cellphone through your provider, unless you want to 
> buy it unlocked and find out later it won't work for you.    Atnt for 
> example, only carried 1 of the phones for mobile accessibility according 
> to the sails person and  that phone wasn't on the mobile accessibility 
> website. </rant>
> Sean
> 
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Buddy Brannan]

Don't forget that many phones are fairly easy to unlock if you happen
to buy one that's locked to a particular carrier. Course, I sorta
think it's too bad that Owasys didn't just go all out and make it a
worldwide phone with all the cell bands (or at least three of them) on
it...Ah well, can't have everything :)
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Janina Sajka]

I don't believe the ordinary user can unlock such a device. So, you need
to know about this in advance and not get into the situation.

Sean M McMahon writes:
> See that's why I don't understand all this locking business because your 
> information is stored on the sim card.  How do you unlock a phone which is 
> locked to a carier?  Sean
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Sean M McMahon]

See that's why I don't understand all this locking business because your 
information is stored on the sim card.  How do you unlock a phone which is 
locked to a carier?  Sean

Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Erik Heil]

Hi their.  Will the Talx package cost the customer anything  if they get 
it from Singular Wireless?  B/c I believe that their are FCC laws in place 
to prevent this.

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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Buddy Brannan]

Hey, how about the ability to run (for instance) lynx the cat? :) (Oh well, it was a thought--I guess this phone doesn't have a CF slot...)
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Steve Holmes]

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Glad to hear of the improvements.  I just found out that Cingular
doesn't offer service in my home area so they are off my books for now
so I hope T Mobile will pick up this modle as they do offer service in
my area and run GSM.  Yes, I recall the linux platform, another big plus!

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 10:11:48PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I was at Owasys last week and saw the latest software revisions. The
> latency issue reported in Access World has been resolved, and the speech
> has been improved--even though it's the same speech engine.
> 
> And, it's worth noting that the 22C is a Linux phone, so you should
> expect to be able to hack at the software if you like.
> 
> Steve Holmes writes:
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> > That's certainly good news indeed.  I found the review in Access World
> > comparing cell phones for July to be interesting.  It sounds like some
> > minor tweaks might improve the software might be in order but other
> > than that...  I wonder which cell phone providers would be willing to
> > carry it when avaiable .
> > 
> > I heard from a broadcast of ACB convention that Cingular is going to
> > offer a Nokia / Talks package as early as this August - sounds
> > exciting too.
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:00:01PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Hi, Keith:
> > > 
> > > I am actively working to have the Owasys 22C made available in the U.S.
> > > I do so in my new capacity as Owasys' U.S. representative. Our hope is
> > > to have this phone available later this year. Currently, the process of
> > > obtaining FCC certification must be completed before the phone can be
> > > sold in the U.S.
> > > 
> > > Please feel free to ask further questions. Please also feel free to
> > > spread this news around. As you may, or may not, have already noticed, I
> > > am no longer with AFB.
> > > 
> > > Keith Watson writes:
> > > > Hi List,
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few 
> > > > months, but I have been off the list for a bit.
> > > > 
> > > > I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was 
> > > > planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Keith Watson
> > > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > > > 
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> > > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Janina Sajka]

I was at Owasys last week and saw the latest software revisions. The
latency issue reported in Access World has been resolved, and the speech
has been improved--even though it's the same speech engine.

And, it's worth noting that the 22C is a Linux phone, so you should
expect to be able to hack at the software if you like.

Steve Holmes writes:
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> 
> That's certainly good news indeed.  I found the review in Access World
> comparing cell phones for July to be interesting.  It sounds like some
> minor tweaks might improve the software might be in order but other
> than that...  I wonder which cell phone providers would be willing to
> carry it when avaiable .
> 
> I heard from a broadcast of ACB convention that Cingular is going to
> offer a Nokia / Talks package as early as this August - sounds
> exciting too.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:00:01PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Hi, Keith:
> > 
> > I am actively working to have the Owasys 22C made available in the U.S.
> > I do so in my new capacity as Owasys' U.S. representative. Our hope is
> > to have this phone available later this year. Currently, the process of
> > obtaining FCC certification must be completed before the phone can be
> > sold in the U.S.
> > 
> > Please feel free to ask further questions. Please also feel free to
> > spread this news around. As you may, or may not, have already noticed, I
> > am no longer with AFB.
> > 
> > Keith Watson writes:
> > > Hi List,
> > > 
> > > Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few 
> > > months, but I have been off the list for a bit.
> > > 
> > > I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was 
> > > planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Keith Watson
> > > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > > 
> > > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > -- 
> > 	
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> > 				Accessibility Workgroup
> > 				Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > 
> > janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Glenn Ervin at Home]

What is the deal with this phone?
Is it accessible?
Glenn, who wants a more functional cell phone.

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Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone


Hi, Keith:

I am actively working to have the Owasys 22C made available in the U.S.
I do so in my new capacity as Owasys' U.S. representative. Our hope is
to have this phone available later this year. Currently, the process of
obtaining FCC certification must be completed before the phone can be
sold in the U.S.

Please feel free to ask further questions. Please also feel free to
spread this news around. As you may, or may not, have already noticed, I
am no longer with AFB.

Keith Watson writes:
> Hi List,
>
> Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few
> months, but I have been off the list for a bit.
>
> I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was
> planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.
>
> -- 
> Keith Watson
> kwatson@smed.yi.org
>
> Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Steve Holmes]

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That's certainly good news indeed.  I found the review in Access World
comparing cell phones for July to be interesting.  It sounds like some
minor tweaks might improve the software might be in order but other
than that...  I wonder which cell phone providers would be willing to
carry it when avaiable .

I heard from a broadcast of ACB convention that Cingular is going to
offer a Nokia / Talks package as early as this August - sounds
exciting too.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:00:01PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Hi, Keith:
> 
> I am actively working to have the Owasys 22C made available in the U.S.
> I do so in my new capacity as Owasys' U.S. representative. Our hope is
> to have this phone available later this year. Currently, the process of
> obtaining FCC certification must be completed before the phone can be
> sold in the U.S.
> 
> Please feel free to ask further questions. Please also feel free to
> spread this news around. As you may, or may not, have already noticed, I
> am no longer with AFB.
> 
> Keith Watson writes:
> > Hi List,
> > 
> > Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few 
> > months, but I have been off the list for a bit.
> > 
> > I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was 
> > planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Keith Watson
> > kwatson@smed.yi.org
> > 
> > Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> > but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 	
> 				Janina Sajka, Chair
> 				Accessibility Workgroup
> 				Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> 
> 
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Re: Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Keith:

I am actively working to have the Owasys 22C made available in the U.S.
I do so in my new capacity as Owasys' U.S. representative. Our hope is
to have this phone available later this year. Currently, the process of
obtaining FCC certification must be completed before the phone can be
sold in the U.S.

Please feel free to ask further questions. Please also feel free to
spread this news around. As you may, or may not, have already noticed, I
am no longer with AFB.

Keith Watson writes:
> Hi List,
> 
> Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few 
> months, but I have been off the list for a bit.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was 
> planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.
> 
> -- 
> Keith Watson
> kwatson@smed.yi.org
> 
> Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
> but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Owasys 22C Cell Phone

[Keith Watson]

Hi List,

Sorry for a repeat if this has been discussed in the past few 
months, but I have been off the list for a bit.

I was wondering if anyone had heard when or if Owasys was 
planning to offer the 22C Cell Phone for sale in the U.S.

-- 
Keith Watson
kwatson@smed.yi.org

Among the major impediments to discovery are not the ignorant
but those with illusions of knowledge.    - B. Alan Wallace