sound card and Gnome

sound card and Gnome

[Brian W]

Hello,

I recently started with Linux - Fedora Core 1, and with help from Bill, I 
am up and running with Speakup. After the installation, I ran sndconfig 
and had sound working, but now it has stopped working.

In the interim I have installed Pine, updated to the latest version of 
Brltty, and poked around in Gnome - this last with sighted help that is no 
longer available. I also ran the yum update utility. I have not
configured Brltty yet.

I think the problem is with a change I made in Gnome, but am too new to 
Linux to be sure of much of anything.)

We enabled the sound server in the 
preferences. (I think that is what they called it at least.) I was trying 
to find information on configuring gnopernicus, and in 
frustration at finding only reference materials, but no step by step 
information, I was just poking around to see what I could break or make 
work by accident.

Well the only thing I have accomplished is to break the sound in the 
console, where it used to work.

I have disabled the graphical boot to see if there are any errors, but 
there are not. I intend to change the default boot so it does not boot up 
into Gnome, but I do not know if that will help.


I use  Speakup with a DEC Talk Express.

Any suggestions would be welcome.
(Well, most any suggestions...)
I should add that while I am new to Linux, I am not new to computers. 
Unfortunately perhaps, the way I learn is by trial and error. once I break 
it, I struggle until I fix it, and usually learn something in the process.

Brian

Re: sound card and Gnome

[Janina Sajka]

What happens when you run sndconfig? Or, did you move to alsa per chance? What are the references to sound in your /etc/modules.conf? Are the sound drivers showing when you do lsmod? What does aumix -q give?

Brian W writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I recently started with Linux - Fedora Core 1, and with help from Bill, I 
> am up and running with Speakup. After the installation, I ran sndconfig 
> and had sound working, but now it has stopped working.
> 
> In the interim I have installed Pine, updated to the latest version of 
> Brltty, and poked around in Gnome - this last with sighted help that is no 
> longer available. I also ran the yum update utility. I have not
> configured Brltty yet.
> 
> I think the problem is with a change I made in Gnome, but am too new to 
> Linux to be sure of much of anything.)
> 
> We enabled the sound server in the 
> preferences. (I think that is what they called it at least.) I was trying 
> to find information on configuring gnopernicus, and in 
> frustration at finding only reference materials, but no step by step 
> information, I was just poking around to see what I could break or make 
> work by accident.
> 
> Well the only thing I have accomplished is to break the sound in the 
> console, where it used to work.
> 
> I have disabled the graphical boot to see if there are any errors, but 
> there are not. I intend to change the default boot so it does not boot up 
> into Gnome, but I do not know if that will help.
> 
> 
> I use  Speakup with a DEC Talk Express.
> 
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
> (Well, most any suggestions...)
> I should add that while I am new to Linux, I am not new to computers. 
> Unfortunately perhaps, the way I learn is by trial and error. once I break 
> it, I struggle until I fix it, and usually learn something in the process.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: sound card and Gnome

[Brian W]

Hello,

When I run sndconfig, it finds the card and then tries to play the sample 
file. This worked the first time, last weekend. Now it just does not play 
the file. I tested the speakers, and they are working and connected 
properly.

/etc/modules.conf gives me:

alias sound-slot-0 es1371
post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L 
>/dev/null 2>&1 || :
pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 
2>&1 || 

lsmod does show the driver.

aumix -q gives me:

vol 0, 0
pcm 64, 64
speaker 64, 64
line 64, 64, R
mic 64, 64, P
cd 64, 64, P
igain 64, 64, P
line1 64, 64, P
phin 64, 64, P
phout 64, 64
video 64, 64, P

It did work right after i installed Fedora Core. I wonder if I tested it 
before rebooting more than once or twice. I saw one note in the sounds 
how-to that said somehting about a plug and play bios and a sound card trying 
to take IRQ 15. Everything else in that file seemed to presuppose that 
sound had never worked, or just did not apply. <shrug>

I'm suspicious because I bought this computer from CompUSA with Linux 
pre-installed, and they put it all on one partition and did an install 
that left out most all the console apps I wanted to learn. That probably 
isn't enough of a reason to jump to conclusions, but at least a BIOS is 
something I understand. 
<grin>

Brian



On Sun, 2 May 2004, Janina Sajka wrote:

> What happens when you run sndconfig? Or, did you move to alsa per chance? What are the references to sound in your /etc/modules.conf? Are the sound drivers showing when you do lsmod? What does aumix -q give?
> 
> Brian W writes:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I recently started with Linux - Fedora Core 1, and with help from Bill, I 
> > am up and running with Speakup. After the installation, I ran sndconfig 
> > and had sound working, but now it has stopped working.
> > 
> > In the interim I have installed Pine, updated to the latest version of 
> > Brltty, and poked around in Gnome - this last with sighted help that is no 
> > longer available. I also ran the yum update utility. I have not
> > configured Brltty yet.
> > 
> > I think the problem is with a change I made in Gnome, but am too new to 
> > Linux to be sure of much of anything.)
> > 
> > We enabled the sound server in the 
> > preferences. (I think that is what they called it at least.) I was trying 
> > to find information on configuring gnopernicus, and in 
> > frustration at finding only reference materials, but no step by step 
> > information, I was just poking around to see what I could break or make 
> > work by accident.
> > 
> > Well the only thing I have accomplished is to break the sound in the 
> > console, where it used to work.
> > 
> > I have disabled the graphical boot to see if there are any errors, but 
> > there are not. I intend to change the default boot so it does not boot up 
> > into Gnome, but I do not know if that will help.
> > 
> > 
> > I use  Speakup with a DEC Talk Express.
> > 
> > Any suggestions would be welcome.
> > (Well, most any suggestions...)
> > I should add that while I am new to Linux, I am not new to computers. 
> > Unfortunately perhaps, the way I learn is by trial and error. once I break 
> > it, I struggle until I fix it, and usually learn something in the process.
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 

Re: sound card and Gnome

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Based on the output from aumix, Gnome reset your volume.
Vol is the master volume for the mixer.  It should be higher than 0 to
get any output from the sound system.

          Kenny
	  
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:58:20PM -0500, Brian W wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> When I run sndconfig, it finds the card and then tries to play the sample 
> file. This worked the first time, last weekend. Now it just does not play 
> the file. I tested the speakers, and they are working and connected 
> properly.
> 
> /etc/modules.conf gives me:
> 
> alias sound-slot-0 es1371
> post-install sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L 
> >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> pre-remove sound-slot-0 /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >/dev/null 
> 2>&1 || 
> 
> lsmod does show the driver.
> 
> aumix -q gives me:
> 
> vol 0, 0
> pcm 64, 64
> speaker 64, 64
> line 64, 64, R
> mic 64, 64, P
> cd 64, 64, P
> igain 64, 64, P
> line1 64, 64, P
> phin 64, 64, P
> phout 64, 64
> video 64, 64, P
> 
> It did work right after i installed Fedora Core. I wonder if I tested it 
> before rebooting more than once or twice. I saw one note in the sounds 
> how-to that said somehting about a plug and play bios and a sound card trying 
> to take IRQ 15. Everything else in that file seemed to presuppose that 
> sound had never worked, or just did not apply. <shrug>
> 
> I'm suspicious because I bought this computer from CompUSA with Linux 
> pre-installed, and they put it all on one partition and did an install 
> that left out most all the console apps I wanted to learn. That probably 
> isn't enough of a reason to jump to conclusions, but at least a BIOS is 
> something I understand. 
> <grin>
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2 May 2004, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> > What happens when you run sndconfig? Or, did you move to alsa per chance? What are the references to sound in your /etc/modules.conf? Are the sound drivers showing when you do lsmod? What does aumix -q give?
> > 
> > Brian W writes:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I recently started with Linux - Fedora Core 1, and with help from Bill, I 
> > > am up and running with Speakup. After the installation, I ran sndconfig 
> > > and had sound working, but now it has stopped working.
> > > 
> > > In the interim I have installed Pine, updated to the latest version of 
> > > Brltty, and poked around in Gnome - this last with sighted help that is no 
> > > longer available. I also ran the yum update utility. I have not
> > > configured Brltty yet.
> > > 
> > > I think the problem is with a change I made in Gnome, but am too new to 
> > > Linux to be sure of much of anything.)
> > > 
> > > We enabled the sound server in the 
> > > preferences. (I think that is what they called it at least.) I was trying 
> > > to find information on configuring gnopernicus, and in 
> > > frustration at finding only reference materials, but no step by step 
> > > information, I was just poking around to see what I could break or make 
> > > work by accident.
> > > 
> > > Well the only thing I have accomplished is to break the sound in the 
> > > console, where it used to work.
> > > 
> > > I have disabled the graphical boot to see if there are any errors, but 
> > > there are not. I intend to change the default boot so it does not boot up 
> > > into Gnome, but I do not know if that will help.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I use  Speakup with a DEC Talk Express.
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions would be welcome.
> > > (Well, most any suggestions...)
> > > I should add that while I am new to Linux, I am not new to computers. 
> > > Unfortunately perhaps, the way I learn is by trial and error. once I break 
> > > it, I struggle until I fix it, and usually learn something in the process.
> > > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: sound card and Gnome

[Brian W]

Thank you. i am glad it was something obvious - even iff I missed it. 

I created an aumixrc file and  now sound plays, but only for a few 
seconds. 
Then it stops until I press a key on the numpad. It seems very strange, 
but this is all so new...

I know I have a lot of reading to do, and I suspect I have some sound 
configuring to do in Gnome. It is loading Gnopernicus 
and Festival, but I 
get no sound. Still that's a topic for another forum.

Thanks again.

Brian



On Mon, 3 May 2004, Kenny Hitt wrote:

> Hi.  Based on the output from aumix, Gnome reset your volume.
> Vol is the master volume for the mixer.  It should be higher than 0 to
> get any output from the sound system.
> 
>           Kenny

Re: sound card and Gnome

[Stephen Clower]

Hello Brian,
If you can, determine what the exact name of your sound card's driver is in Fedora. Then do a modprobe >soundcard? to get it going again. I'm using an ESS Maestro3 on my laptop, so to start it in Linux I type
modprobe maestro3

HTH
Steve

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Re: sound card and Gnome

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  You might want to check to see if Gnome changed your mixer
settings.

Use amixer if you are using alsa drivers or aumix -q if you are using
OSS drivers.  Aumix -q will probably work if you are using alsa.

Hope this helps.
         Kenny
	 
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 04:00:00PM -0500, Brian W wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I recently started with Linux - Fedora Core 1, and with help from Bill, I 
> am up and running with Speakup. After the installation, I ran sndconfig 
> and had sound working, but now it has stopped working.
> 
> In the interim I have installed Pine, updated to the latest version of 
> Brltty, and poked around in Gnome - this last with sighted help that is no 
> longer available. I also ran the yum update utility. I have not
> configured Brltty yet.
> 
> I think the problem is with a change I made in Gnome, but am too new to 
> Linux to be sure of much of anything.)
> 
> We enabled the sound server in the 
> preferences. (I think that is what they called it at least.) I was trying 
> to find information on configuring gnopernicus, and in 
> frustration at finding only reference materials, but no step by step 
> information, I was just poking around to see what I could break or make 
> work by accident.
> 
> Well the only thing I have accomplished is to break the sound in the 
> console, where it used to work.
> 
> I have disabled the graphical boot to see if there are any errors, but 
> there are not. I intend to change the default boot so it does not boot up 
> into Gnome, but I do not know if that will help.
> 
> 
> I use  Speakup with a DEC Talk Express.
> 
> Any suggestions would be welcome.
> (Well, most any suggestions...)
> I should add that while I am new to Linux, I am not new to computers. 
> Unfortunately perhaps, the way I learn is by trial and error. once I break 
> it, I struggle until I fix it, and usually learn something in the process.
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup