DECtalk Software Speech

DECtalk Software Speech

[Steve Holmes]

I just installed the DECtalk speech deal from fonix and the say
command works fine now.  Now, I want to see what it would take to
write middle ware to enable speakup to work with it.  What would be
require here?

Also, where are any additional docs for the fonix synth? I'm also
thinking about getting EmacSpeak to work with it and also I would like
to override those built-in abreviations.  I don't wnat st to always be
spoken as street!!!

Any ideas?
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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Hart Larry]

Hi Steve-and-All:  Are you running version 5 from Phonex or running an actual
DDec-talk version like 4.1C, as I am?  I think the abbreviations are in
personal.dtu
Other than the example you list, it also says drive instead of doctor when it
reads dr
Good luck with your project
Hart

Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Steve Holmes]

This is DECtalk runtime for linux version 4.61.  It seems to be quite
common for these developers of software speech to force those
substitutions down our throats and often, no means to turn them off.
I don't want to hear hp being said as "horse power" when we're talking
about Helit Packard <sigh>.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 08:26:04AM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> Hi Steve-and-All:  Are you running version 5 from Phonex or running an actual
> DDec-talk version like 4.1C, as I am?  I think the abbreviations are in
> personal.dtu
> Other than the example you list, it also says drive instead of doctor when it
> reads dr
> Good luck with your project
> Hart
> 
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RE: DECtalk Software Speech

[Saqib Shaikh]

Emacspeak already works with it

Saqib
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> Sent: 25 January 2004 16:08
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: DECtalk Software Speech
> 
> I just installed the DECtalk speech deal from fonix and the 
> say command works fine now.  Now, I want to see what it would 
> take to write middle ware to enable speakup to work with it.  
> What would be require here?
> 
> Also, where are any additional docs for the fonix synth? I'm 
> also thinking about getting EmacSpeak to work with it and 
> also I would like to override those built-in abreviations.  I 
> don't wnat st to always be spoken as street!!!
> 
> Any ideas?
> --
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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Steve Holmes]

What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this? Slackware
still uses 18.0; I thought there was something later than that out and
about.  Does it mention it specificly or do I use a particular synth
driver that is compatible with it?

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> Emacspeak already works with it
> 
> Saqib

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RE: DECtalk Software Speech

[Saqib Shaikh]

Look on the main Emacspeak page (emacspeak.sf.net) under the press-releases
heading - it says quite plainly that Emacspeak supports Fonix DECTalk since
version 17.0.

Saqib


> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> Sent: 25 January 2004 22:20
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> 
> What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this? 
> Slackware still uses 18.0; I thought there was something 
> later than that out and about.  Does it mention it specificly 
> or do I use a particular synth driver that is compatible with it?
> 
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > Emacspeak already works with it
> > 
> > Saqib
> 
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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Sean McMahon]

Look at their list there is some uncertainty if it works well.  In
particular there was a note about debian and having trouble with older
versions of gcc.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saqib Shaikh" <S.Shaikh@sussex.ac.uk>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: DECtalk Software Speech


> Look on the main Emacspeak page (emacspeak.sf.net) under the
press-releases
> heading - it says quite plainly that Emacspeak supports Fonix DECTalk
since
> version 17.0.
>
> Saqib
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> > Sent: 25 January 2004 22:20
> > To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> >
> > What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this?
> > Slackware still uses 18.0; I thought there was something
> > later than that out and about.  Does it mention it specificly
> > or do I use a particular synth driver that is compatible with it?
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > > Emacspeak already works with it
> > >
> > > Saqib
> >
> > --
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> >
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RE: DECtalk Software Speech

[Saqib Shaikh]

My understanding was that DECTalk is binary only, so why should it matter
wat gcc you have?

Saqib


> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
> Sent: 26 January 2004 16:31
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> 
> Look at their list there is some uncertainty if it works 
> well.  In particular there was a note about debian and having 
> trouble with older versions of gcc.
> Sean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Saqib Shaikh" <S.Shaikh@sussex.ac.uk>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:09 PM
> Subject: RE: DECtalk Software Speech
> 
> 
> > Look on the main Emacspeak page (emacspeak.sf.net) under the
> press-releases
> > heading - it says quite plainly that Emacspeak supports 
> Fonix DECTalk
> since
> > version 17.0.
> >
> > Saqib
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> > > Sent: 25 January 2004 22:20
> > > To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> > > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> > >
> > > What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this?
> > > Slackware still uses 18.0; I thought there was something
> > > later than that out and about.  Does it mention it specificly
> > > or do I use a particular synth driver that is compatible with it?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > > > Emacspeak already works with it
> > > >
> > > > Saqib
> > >
> > > --
> > > HolmesGrown Solutions
> > > The best solutions for the best price!
> > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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DECtalk Software Speech

[Steve Holmes]

Well to add onto the  current thread, I would like to persue
development of middleware or whatever nees be to connect Speakup with
the DECtalk software synth.  I'm currently in conversation with some
folks at Fonix to confirm some things about specs anc controling the
synth so from Kirk's point of view or whoever else on the list, what
do I need to glue this stuff together.  I think the programmer's guide
from Fonix will cover what I need from their end but not sure yet.  So
far, the 'say' command yields pretty decent sound so think if we can
get Speakup to work with this, we'll be off to a gient leap!  

If someone else is doing anything already on this, I don't want to
step on any toes but...  If not, I'll forge ahead and if so, I'll be
glad to help however I can.

I still think hardware speech is the best way to go but the laptop
experience is much easier with softsynth.

Anyway, look forward to any further comments on this stuff.

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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi. Don't know about problems with older versions of gcc, but the 
DEQTalk RTK comes with header files to link it into other programs.  
When I compiled the emacspeak server for DEQTalk, I had to use gcc 2.95
instead of gcc 3.3 because I got errors from the DEQTalk headers 
during the compile.
I'm running Debian unstable with the latest updates.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 07:02:09PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> My understanding was that DECTalk is binary only, so why should it matter
> wat gcc you have?
> 
> Saqib
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
> > Sent: 26 January 2004 16:31
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> > 
> > Look at their list there is some uncertainty if it works 
> > well.  In particular there was a note about debian and having 
> > trouble with older versions of gcc.
> > Sean
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Saqib Shaikh" <S.Shaikh@sussex.ac.uk>
> > To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: DECtalk Software Speech
> > 
> > 
> > > Look on the main Emacspeak page (emacspeak.sf.net) under the
> > press-releases
> > > heading - it says quite plainly that Emacspeak supports 
> > Fonix DECTalk
> > since
> > > version 17.0.
> > >
> > > Saqib
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> > > > Sent: 25 January 2004 22:20
> > > > To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> > > > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> > > >
> > > > What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this?
> > > > Slackware still uses 18.0; I thought there was something
> > > > later than that out and about.  Does it mention it specificly
> > > > or do I use a particular synth driver that is compatible with it?
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > > > > Emacspeak already works with it
> > > > >
> > > > > Saqib
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > The best solutions for the best price!
> > > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown
> > > >
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Steve Holmes]

Yah, I reall hate that when one is more or less forced to use an older
version of the base compiler.  I do get the feeling that some of the
recent changes to GCC have been problematic however.  I don't know
enough about the low level details to convert header files or whatever
to make it more compatible with later versions.  That's another
problem with using precompiled libraries like this.  If you had the
source, you could simply recompile the whole shibang and hopefully
clear up such problems.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 02:29:30PM -0600, Kenny Hitt wrote:
> Hi. Don't know about problems with older versions of gcc, but the 
> DEQTalk RTK comes with header files to link it into other programs.  
> When I compiled the emacspeak server for DEQTalk, I had to use gcc 2.95
> instead of gcc 3.3 because I got errors from the DEQTalk headers 
> during the compile.
> I'm running Debian unstable with the latest updates.
> 
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
> 
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 07:02:09PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > My understanding was that DECTalk is binary only, so why should it matter
> > wat gcc you have?
> > 
> > Saqib
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
> > > Sent: 26 January 2004 16:31
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> > > 
> > > Look at their list there is some uncertainty if it works 
> > > well.  In particular there was a note about debian and having 
> > > trouble with older versions of gcc.
> > > Sean
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Saqib Shaikh" <S.Shaikh@sussex.ac.uk>
> > > To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"
> > > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:09 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DECtalk Software Speech
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Look on the main Emacspeak page (emacspeak.sf.net) under the
> > > press-releases
> > > > heading - it says quite plainly that Emacspeak supports 
> > > Fonix DECTalk
> > > since
> > > > version 17.0.
> > > >
> > > > Saqib
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Steve Holmes
> > > > > Sent: 25 January 2004 22:20
> > > > > To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> > > > > Subject: Re: DECtalk Software Speech
> > > > >
> > > > > What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this?
> > > > > Slackware still uses 18.0; I thought there was something
> > > > > later than that out and about.  Does it mention it specificly
> > > > > or do I use a particular synth driver that is compatible with it?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > > > > > Emacspeak already works with it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saqib
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > HolmesGrown Solutions
> > > > > The best solutions for the best price!
> > > > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: DECtalk Software Speech

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  I use the DEQTalk software synth with emacspeak 17.0.  The
emacspeak package includes a server for the DEQTalk.
I also use the synth with the emacspeak server with yasr.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 03:19:37PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> What version of EmacSpeak must I use in order to do this? Slackware
> still uses 18.0; I thought there was something later than that out and
> about.  Does it mention it specificly or do I use a particular synth
> driver that is compatible with it?
> 
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 09:04:49PM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > Emacspeak already works with it
> > 
> > Saqib
> 
> -- 
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