freebsd

freebsd

[Alex Snow]

Hi all. I'm trying to mount the kern.flp freebsd install disk so I can 
modify it for installation using serial terminal.
what fs should I mount this as? bc it mounts it as ufs but I cant right 
to it even though it says it's rw.

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Re: freebsd

[Gregory Nowak]

>From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help:

UFS file system support (read-only)
CONFIG_UFS_FS
  BSD and derivate versions of Unix (such as SunOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD,
  OpenBSD and NeXTstep) use a file system called UFS. Some System V
  Unixes can create and mount hard disk partitions and diskettes using
  this file system as well. Saying Y here will allow you to read from
  these partitions; if you also want to write to them, say Y to the
  experimental "UFS file system write support", below. Please read the
  file <file:Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt> for more information.

  If you only intend to mount files from some other Unix over the
  network using NFS, you don't need the UFS file system support (but
  you need NFS file system support obviously).

  Note that this option is generally not needed for floppies, since a
  good portable way to transport files and directories between unixes
  (and even other operating systems) is given by the tar program ("man
  tar" or preferably "info tar").

  When accessing NeXTstep files, you may need to convert them from the
  NeXT character set to the Latin1 character set; use the program
  recode ("info recode") for this purpose.

  If you want to compile the UFS file system support as a module ( =
  code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel
  whenever you want), say M here and read
  <file:Documentation/modules.txt>. The module will be called ufs.o.

  If you haven't heard about all of this before, it's safe to say N.

UFS file system write support (DANGEROUS)
CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE
  Say Y here if you want to try writing to UFS partitions. This is
  experimental, so you should back up your UFS partitions beforehand.
 
Greg

On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:52:20AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> Hi all. I'm trying to mount the kern.flp freebsd install disk so I can 
> modify it for installation using serial terminal.
> what fs should I mount this as? bc it mounts it as ufs but I cant right 
> to it even though it says it's rw.
> 
> -- 
> Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> back.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: freebsd

[Alex Snow]

ah...so that's my problem.
I'll have to find a freebsd box to get an account on so I can finish 
these disks.

On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:01:24AM -0600, 
Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help:
> 
> UFS file system support (read-only)
> CONFIG_UFS_FS
>   BSD and derivate versions of Unix (such as SunOS, FreeBSD, NetBSD,
>   OpenBSD and NeXTstep) use a file system called UFS. Some System V
>   Unixes can create and mount hard disk partitions and diskettes using
>   this file system as well. Saying Y here will allow you to read from
>   these partitions; if you also want to write to them, say Y to the
>   experimental "UFS file system write support", below. Please read the
>   file <file:Documentation/filesystems/ufs.txt> for more information.
> 
>   If you only intend to mount files from some other Unix over the
>   network using NFS, you don't need the UFS file system support (but
>   you need NFS file system support obviously).
> 
>   Note that this option is generally not needed for floppies, since a
>   good portable way to transport files and directories between unixes
>   (and even other operating systems) is given by the tar program ("man
>   tar" or preferably "info tar").
> 
>   When accessing NeXTstep files, you may need to convert them from the
>   NeXT character set to the Latin1 character set; use the program
>   recode ("info recode") for this purpose.
> 
>   If you want to compile the UFS file system support as a module ( =
>   code which can be inserted in and removed from the running kernel
>   whenever you want), say M here and read
>   <file:Documentation/modules.txt>. The module will be called ufs.o.
> 
>   If you haven't heard about all of this before, it's safe to say N.
> 
> UFS file system write support (DANGEROUS)
> CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE
>   Say Y here if you want to try writing to UFS partitions. This is
>   experimental, so you should back up your UFS partitions beforehand.
>  
> Greg
> 
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 10:52:20AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> > Hi all. I'm trying to mount the kern.flp freebsd install disk so I can 
> > modify it for installation using serial terminal.
> > what fs should I mount this as? bc it mounts it as ufs but I cant right 
> > to it even though it says it's rw.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> > back.
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Some Mutt related questions

[Darragh]

Hello,
I have to say Mutt is a really cool program.  I love it.  I'm using
fetchmail for getting the mail and sendmail for sending it.  I'm getting a
server missmatch when using fetchmail but I'll sort that out in a while.
Everything is working the way its suppose to so its not really causing any
problems.

I've decided to use vim for composing mail.  Its not my favorite editor but
its the only one that I could find a maximumwidth function.  I'd prefear to
use emacs so if any one knows of a way of setting the maximum line length in
emacs I'd be very interested in hearing about it.

I notice that when deleting one letter at a time speakup doesn't speak it.
Is there a way of fixing this?
This only happens in mutt.

I'm also having a problem when writing to lists.  The message that I get is
at the bottom.  Does any one know what's causing it.

Is there a way of ignoring all the headers when reading mail?  If this is
not possible could I get a list of them all so I can put them into the
.muttrc file?

How do I put a signiture into all messages?

How can I select an entire line, paragraph or document?

How can I delete by word?  Example control back space or delete in Windows?

How can I activate a link in a message?

How do I set up a kind of address book for keeping track of addresses in
mutt?

How do I get fetchmail to check for message every few minutes?

Can I have all the headers on one screen while keeping the message on the
second one?  Example I press enter on a message, the first screen is after
that.  I hit space and the message associated with them headers is
displayed?  This would probably leave a few blank lines between the header
and the bottom of the screen.

I know that's a lot of questions.  I'm very sorry.


DarraghSubject: [MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com: Returned mail: see
transcript
for details]

> ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem
<
MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com> -----

>
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <
MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com>

> To: <
darragh@localhost.localdomain>

> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
>
> The original message was received at Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
> from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
>
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <
ilug@linux.ie>

>     (reason: 550 5.7.1 <
ilug@linux.ie>...
we do not relay
<
lists@digitaldarragh.com>)

>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to mail.digitaldarragh.com.:
> >>> RCPT To:<
ilug@linux.ie>

> <<< 550 5.7.1 <
ilug@linux.ie>...
we do not relay
<
lists@digitaldarragh.com>

> 550 5.1.1 <
ilug@linux.ie>...
User unknown
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
> Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain
> Arrival-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
>
> Final-Recipient: RFC822;
ilug@linux.ie
>
Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.digitaldarragh.com
> Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <
ilug@linux.ie>...
we do not relay
<
lists@digitaldarragh.com>

> Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
>
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 +0000
> From: "Darragh O H'eiligh" <
darragh@localhost.localdomain>

> To:
ilug@linux.ie
>
Subject: Could someone have a look at this message?
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i
>
>
> ,Hello all, Could any of you have a look at this message and tell me if
everything looks ok?  I've finished the .muttrc sendmail.cf and .muttrc
files and everything seems to be working reasonably well but I'd like to
make sure its legable for sighted users.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Darragh
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----

Re: freebsd

[Gregory Nowak]

If you get things working, and freebsd installed, I would be very much
interested in what you did, since I plan to do the same thing
eventually, so please do share.

Greg


On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 11:44:32AM -0500, Alex Snow wrote:
> ah...so that's my problem.
> I'll have to find a freebsd box to get an account on so I can finish 
> these disks.
> 

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Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Alex Snow]

to put a signature in your messages create a file called ~/.signature 
and add your signature to that.
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 05:13:34PM -0000, 
Darragh wrote:
> Hello,
> I have to say Mutt is a really cool program.  I love it.  I'm using
> fetchmail for getting the mail and sendmail for sending it.  I'm getting a
> server missmatch when using fetchmail but I'll sort that out in a while.
> Everything is working the way its suppose to so its not really causing any
> problems.
> 
> I've decided to use vim for composing mail.  Its not my favorite editor but
> its the only one that I could find a maximumwidth function.  I'd prefear to
> use emacs so if any one knows of a way of setting the maximum line length in
> emacs I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
> 
> I notice that when deleting one letter at a time speakup doesn't speak it.
> Is there a way of fixing this?
> This only happens in mutt.
> 
> I'm also having a problem when writing to lists.  The message that I get is
> at the bottom.  Does any one know what's causing it.
> 
> Is there a way of ignoring all the headers when reading mail?  If this is
> not possible could I get a list of them all so I can put them into the
> .muttrc file?
> 
> How do I put a signiture into all messages?
> 
> How can I select an entire line, paragraph or document?
> 
> How can I delete by word?  Example control back space or delete in Windows?
> 
> How can I activate a link in a message?
> 
> How do I set up a kind of address book for keeping track of addresses in
> mutt?
> 
> How do I get fetchmail to check for message every few minutes?
> 
> Can I have all the headers on one screen while keeping the message on the
> second one?  Example I press enter on a message, the first screen is after
> that.  I hit space and the message associated with them headers is
> displayed?  This would probably leave a few blank lines between the header
> and the bottom of the screen.
> 
> I know that's a lot of questions.  I'm very sorry.
> 
> 
> DarraghSubject: [MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com: Returned mail: see
> transcript
> for details]
> 
> > ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem
> <
> MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com> -----
> 
> >
> > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <
> MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> > To: <
> darragh@localhost.localdomain>
> 
> > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> >
> > The original message was received at Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
> > from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <
> ilug@linux.ie>
> 
> >     (reason: 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>)
> 
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to mail.digitaldarragh.com.:
> > >>> RCPT To:<
> ilug@linux.ie>
> 
> > <<< 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> > 550 5.1.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> User unknown
> >
> > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
> > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain
> > Arrival-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
> >
> > Final-Recipient: RFC822;
> ilug@linux.ie
> >
> Action: failed
> > Status: 5.7.1
> > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.digitaldarragh.com
> > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>
> 
> > Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
> >
> > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 +0000
> > From: "Darragh O H'eiligh" <
> darragh@localhost.localdomain>
> 
> > To:
> ilug@linux.ie
> >
> Subject: Could someone have a look at this message?
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i
> >
> >
> > ,Hello all, Could any of you have a look at this message and tell me if
> everything looks ok?  I've finished the .muttrc sendmail.cf and .muttrc
> files and everything seems to be working reasonably well but I'd like to
> make sure its legable for sighted users.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Erik Heil]

Hello there.  if you like using Emacs for your editor, wouldn't it just be
easier to use a LISP-native mail reader for Emacs in conjunction
w/Emacsspeak?  Just my opinion though.  Haven't really Messed around with
Mutt a lot since I'm more of a Pine user.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:13 PM
Subject: Some Mutt related questions


> Hello,
> I have to say Mutt is a really cool program.  I love it.  I'm using
> fetchmail for getting the mail and sendmail for sending it.  I'm getting a
> server missmatch when using fetchmail but I'll sort that out in a while.
> Everything is working the way its suppose to so its not really causing any
> problems.
>
> I've decided to use vim for composing mail.  Its not my favorite editor
but
> its the only one that I could find a maximumwidth function.  I'd prefear
to
> use emacs so if any one knows of a way of setting the maximum line length
in
> emacs I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
>
> I notice that when deleting one letter at a time speakup doesn't speak it.
> Is there a way of fixing this?
> This only happens in mutt.
>
> I'm also having a problem when writing to lists.  The message that I get
is
> at the bottom.  Does any one know what's causing it.
>
> Is there a way of ignoring all the headers when reading mail?  If this is
> not possible could I get a list of them all so I can put them into the
> .muttrc file?
>
> How do I put a signiture into all messages?
>
> How can I select an entire line, paragraph or document?
>
> How can I delete by word?  Example control back space or delete in
Windows?
>
> How can I activate a link in a message?
>
> How do I set up a kind of address book for keeping track of addresses in
> mutt?
>
> How do I get fetchmail to check for message every few minutes?
>
> Can I have all the headers on one screen while keeping the message on the
> second one?  Example I press enter on a message, the first screen is after
> that.  I hit space and the message associated with them headers is
> displayed?  This would probably leave a few blank lines between the header
> and the bottom of the screen.
>
> I know that's a lot of questions.  I'm very sorry.
>
>
> DarraghSubject: [MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com: Returned mail: see
> transcript
> for details]
>
> > ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem
> <
> MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com> -----
>
> >
> > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
> > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <
> MAILER-DAEMON@digitaldarragh.com>
>
> > To: <
> darragh@localhost.localdomain>
>
> > Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> > Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> >
> > The original message was received at Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
> > from localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
> >
> >    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> > <
> ilug@linux.ie>
>
> >     (reason: 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>)
>
> >
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to mail.digitaldarragh.com.:
> > >>> RCPT To:<
> ilug@linux.ie>
>
> > <<< 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>
>
> > 550 5.1.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> User unknown
> >
> > Reporting-MTA: dns; localhost.localdomain
> > Received-From-MTA: DNS; localhost.localdomain
> > Arrival-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 GMT
> >
> > Final-Recipient: RFC822;
> ilug@linux.ie
> >
> Action: failed
> > Status: 5.7.1
> > Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.digitaldarragh.com
> > Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <
> ilug@linux.ie>...
> we do not relay
> <
> lists@digitaldarragh.com>
>
> > Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:55 GMT
> >
> > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:43:54 +0000
> > From: "Darragh O H'eiligh" <
> darragh@localhost.localdomain>
>
> > To:
> ilug@linux.ie
> >
> Subject: Could someone have a look at this message?
> > User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i
> >
> >
> > ,Hello all, Could any of you have a look at this message and tell me if
> everything looks ok?  I've finished the .muttrc sendmail.cf and .muttrc
> files and everything seems to be working reasonably well but I'd like to
> make sure its legable for sighted users.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
>
>
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Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Thomas Stivers]

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Mutt has a great manual that you should look at for answeres to most of
these questions and much much more. On my Debian system the manual can
be found in /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz.

My answeres follow inline.

On 11/29/03  5:13 PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hello,
> I have to say Mutt is a really cool program.  I love it.  I'm using
> fetchmail for getting the mail and sendmail for sending it.  I'm getting a
> server missmatch when using fetchmail but I'll sort that out in a while.
> Everything is working the way its suppose to so its not really causing any
> problems.
> 
> I've decided to use vim for composing mail.  Its not my favorite editor but
> its the only one that I could find a maximumwidth function.  I'd prefear to
> use emacs so if any one knows of a way of setting the maximum line length in
> emacs I'd be very interested in hearing about it.

I actually prefer vim, but in my .emacs file I have

(setq fill-column 72)
(auto-fill-mode)

This wraps lines at 72 like textwidth in vim.

> I notice that when deleting one letter at a time speakup doesn't speak it.
> Is there a way of fixing this?

If you are referring to the same issue as I think you don't hear what
you backspace over in vim. I couldn't figure out what caused it, but a
partial solution/workaround (hack) is to run vim within screen. I don't
know why this works and it doesn't without screen though.

> This only happens in mutt.

Are you sure? Or does it happen when you use vim otherwise.

> I'm also having a problem when writing to lists.  The message that I get is
> at the bottom.  Does any one know what's causing it.
> 
> Is there a way of ignoring all the headers when reading mail?  If this is
> not possible could I get a list of them all so I can put them into the
> .muttrc file?

In your muttrc:

ignore *
unignore from: subject:

> How do I put a signiture into all messages?

In your muttrc:

set signature=.signature

This is the default I believe and put your signature in .signature in
your home directory.

> How can I select an entire line, paragraph or document?

If you're talking about selecting it in vim to select by letter use v by
line use V and by block use ^v then move around until what you want is
selected.

If you want to copy stuff to the clipboard from the mutt screen then use
speakup's cut and paste feature.

> How can I delete by word?  Example control back space or delete in Windows?

Use ^w (ctrl-w) in insert mode in vim.

> How can I activate a link in a message?

If you have urlview installed use ctrl-b to get a list of links in the
message and then arrow to the one you want and press enter. Sometimes
there is a hidden end of line character at the end of urls in urlview,
so you may have to remove it when urlview lets you edit the url.

> How do I set up a kind of address book for keeping track of addresses in
> mutt?

In your muttrc:

set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases
source ~/.mutt/aliases

Then use a in mutt to add aliases. You can also add aliases with your
editor of choice if you follow the format mut uses..

> How do I get fetchmail to check for message every few minutes?

In your fetchmailrc:

set daemon=300 # poll every 5 minutes

Put this near the top.

> Can I have all the headers on one screen while keeping the message on the
> second one?  Example I press enter on a message, the first screen is after
> that.  I hit space and the message associated with them headers is
> displayed?  This would probably leave a few blank lines between the header
> and the bottom of the screen.

I don't know about doing this, but pressing h while you're viewing a
message will toggle displaying of all headers on and off.

> I know that's a lot of questions.  I'm very sorry.

That's okay, that's what we're here for. Well actually that's what the
mutt users mailing list is here for. You can subscribe by sending a
message with subscribe in the subject to mutt-users-request@mutt.org.

Your delivery error looks like some kind of configuration error on your
server, but I can't say what exactly, sorry. Good luck and I hope you
can get it all working.

- -- 
Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
carefully than others.
Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD
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Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Steve Holmes]

On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 05:13:34PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hello,
<snip>
> I've decided to use vim for composing mail.  Its not my favorite editor but
> its the only one that I could find a maximumwidth function.  I'd prefear to
> use emacs so if any one knows of a way of setting the maximum line length in
> emacs I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
> 
I will include the relevant lines from my .emacs file to do this.  In
my case, emacs doesn't normally wrap lines of text unless in text-mode
so I added a condition so text-mode is invoked when composing from
mutt.
(push '("mutt-.*" . text-mode) auto-mode-alist)
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'auto-fill-mode)

Thomas Stivers gave some excellent answers to your remaining
questions.  I will say that configuring mutt may seem unwieldy at the
beginning, but once set in place, cherrish that .muttrc file and you
will be running one of the finest mail clients out there.
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Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Christopher Moore]

Steve,
How do you get mutt to run under emacspeak?  I've always run it from a text
console using speakup.  It would be interesting to see how it would
function in emacspeak.

Chris

Re: Some Mutt related questions

[Steve Holmes]

I don't; I use mutt and emacs the same way you do.  I just replied
indicating how better to control the word wrapping and such.  Since mutt is
not an emacs type application, it really wouldn't make sense to use
emacspeak anywhere in this loop.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Moore" <christopher.h.moore@verizon.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Some Mutt related questions


> Steve,
> How do you get mutt to run under emacspeak?  I've always run it from a
text
> console using speakup.  It would be interesting to see how it would
> function in emacspeak.
>
> Chris
>
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