* caplock disappeared @ Chuck Hallenbeck ` jacobs ` Terry D. Cudney 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup Distribution List My latest CVS speakup seems to be missing the caplock function. Not sure when it disappeared, since I do not use it that often, but the key does not say anything when pressed and it does not alter the case of typed letters. Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: caplock disappeared caplock disappeared Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` jacobs ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Terry D. Cudney 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: jacobs @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi >From what it looks like here, caps lock is defined as a speakup key. Try hitting caps+numeric keypad enter and guess what you get... speakup turns off. I can't seem to find a way to override it since speakup seems to completely take over the keymap. I've tried defining keycode 58 as Caps_Lock but apparently speakup is intercepting it before it gets to the normal keymap level. For now, if you want caps lock functionality, press any modifier key + caps lock. This apparently lets the caps lock key get through. HTH On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:01:46AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > My latest CVS speakup seems to be missing the caplock function. > Not sure when it disappeared, since I do not use it that often, > but the key does not say anything when pressed and it does not > alter the case of typed letters. > > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) > So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: caplock disappeared ` jacobs @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Thanks, it worked. alt plus caplock made it work for now. On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 jacobs@surferie.net wrote: > Hi > >From what it looks like here, caps lock is defined as a speakup key. > Try hitting caps+numeric keypad enter and guess what you get... speakup > turns off. I can't seem to find a way to override it since speakup seems to > completely take over the keymap. I've tried defining keycode 58 as Caps_Lock > but apparently speakup is intercepting it before it gets to the normal > keymap level. For now, if you want caps lock functionality, press any > modifier key + caps lock. This apparently lets the caps lock key get > through. > HTH > > > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:01:46AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > My latest CVS speakup seems to be missing the caplock function. > > Not sure when it disappeared, since I do not use it that often, > > but the key does not say anything when pressed and it does not > > alter the case of typed letters. > > > > Chuck > > > > -- > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) > > So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: caplock disappeared ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Yes, that does seem to do the trick indeed. I ran into the same discoveries yesterday afternoon. Holding down the caps-lock key without enhancements seems to do the exact same thing as does the keypad-insert speakup key. I think this is to help out laptop users. Hey while I'm here, I have a question about the new way keymaps are done now. Can anyone explain how that process now works? What I mean is speakup doesn't come with a key map anymore but I think it is generated by genkeymap.c or something like that. I did not find any program comments to help me out thus my questions here. If I want to alter a keymap or whatever, how do I go about doing that now? Does an actual keymap still exist and I've just missed something or what? Thanks for any help. On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 09:25:50AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > Thanks, it worked. alt plus caplock made it work for now. > On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 jacobs@surferie.net wrote: > > > Hi > > >From what it looks like here, caps lock is defined as a speakup key. > > Try hitting caps+numeric keypad enter and guess what you get... speakup > > turns off. I can't seem to find a way to override it since speakup seems to > > completely take over the keymap. I've tried defining keycode 58 as Caps_Lock > > but apparently speakup is intercepting it before it gets to the normal > > keymap level. For now, if you want caps lock functionality, press any > > modifier key + caps lock. This apparently lets the caps lock key get > > through. > > HTH -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: caplock disappeared caplock disappeared Chuck Hallenbeck ` jacobs @ ` Terry D. Cudney ` Chuck Hallenbeck 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Chuck et al, As of Wednesday, May 21/03, david Borowski introduced my laptop keymap into the cvs version of speakup. The only ostensible change is the kidnapping of the Caps_Lock key for speakup use. However by using the capslock key with selected qwerty-keys, you no longer need the numeric-keypad. There soon will be a /proc filesystem method to handle keymaps. Meanwhile, (and if you like it, you can continue to use it) the traditional speakup keymap is integrated with my laptop keymap. This integration provides full control of speakup using only the qwerty keys without the numeric keypad. On a 104-key keyboard you have two methods of controlling speakup: qwerty-keys with the Caps_Lock key and the traditional speakup numpad keys. To toggle the caps_lock function, hold down the shift key and press the caps_lock key, in that order. There currently is a bug wherein the control and alt keys act the same as the shift key when pressed before pressing the capslock key. However, if you press the capslock key, then the control or alt key and a qwerty-key, you will get the desired speakup functionality as documented. More details are in the file: ftp://ftp.linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/README-cvs-keymap which will be updated fre quently to try to keep abreast of changes in cvs. HTH, --terry On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:01:46AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > My latest CVS speakup seems to be missing the caplock function. > Not sure when it disappeared, since I do not use it that often, > but the key does not say anything when pressed and it does not > alter the case of typed letters. > > Chuck > > -- > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) > So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Name: Terry D. Cudney Phone: (705) 422-0039 E-mail: terry@CottageInWasaga.com Web: www.CottageInWasaga.com Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like... having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool. Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: caplock disappeared ` Terry D. Cudney @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Terry, Many thanks for that explanation. I had not given your keymap a try before, but it seems to be a great addition. Chuck On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Terry D. Cudney wrote: > Hi Chuck et al, > > As of Wednesday, May 21/03, david Borowski introduced my laptop keymap into the cvs version of speakup. The only ostensible change is the kidnapping of the Caps_Lock key for speakup use. However by using the capslock key with selected qwerty-keys, you no longer need the numeric-keypad. > > There soon will be a /proc filesystem method to handle keymaps. > > Meanwhile, (and if you like it, you can continue to use it) the traditional speakup keymap is integrated with my laptop keymap. This integration provides full control of speakup using only the qwerty keys without the numeric keypad. On a 104-key keyboard you have two methods of controlling speakup: qwerty-keys with the Caps_Lock key and the traditional speakup numpad keys. > > To toggle the caps_lock function, hold down the shift key and press the caps_lock key, in that order. There currently is a bug wherein the control and alt keys act the same as the shift key when pressed before pressing the capslock key. However, if you press the capslock key, then the control or alt key and a qwerty-key, you will get the desired speakup functionality as documented. > > More details are in the file: > > ftp://ftp.linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/README-cvs-keymap > > which will be updated fre quently to try to keep abreast of changes in cvs. > > HTH, > > --terry > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 07:01:46AM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > My latest CVS speakup seems to be missing the caplock function. > > Not sure when it disappeared, since I do not use it that often, > > but the key does not say anything when pressed and it does not > > alter the case of typed letters. > > > > Chuck > > > > -- > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (2% of Full) > > So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (3% of Full) So visit me sometime at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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