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* Fwd: where did viavoice go?
@  ` Doug
       [not found]   ` <3.0.5.32.20030426133614.00c80718@pop-server.tampabay.rr.co m>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Doug @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Here's the whole set of viavoice for linux files

 > http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/Linux/ViaVoice/

This might be your last chance to grab them, they
have been nowhere to be found on the net for a
while already, except the dictation runtime, which
is still on the IBM site. The sdks and the text
to speech (TTS) stuff is no longer on the IBM site.
Grab them now while you still can. Festival is
free but viavoice is nice sounding and probably
the best recognition tools available on linux.

   -- Doug



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* Re: where did viavoice go?
       [not found]   ` <3.0.5.32.20030426133614.00c80718@pop-server.tampabay.rr.co m>
@      ` Doug
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Doug @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Yes these should work with emacspeak, but you only need
the TTS rtk (runtime kit) for that. You need to go into
the emacspeak servers directory, then go to linux-outloud
directory, type make to build the program there, then go
back to the servers directory, and type tcl outloud to
set up emacspeak for viavoice.

Note the following, on my system I also had to do this:

1) If you get a message that says
    undefined symbol: __gxx_Personality_V0
    when trying the tcl outloud command, then
    edit /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers/linux-outloud
    and change line 13 in the Makefile to look like this

    $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -g -o $@ tcleci.o -ltcl -ldl -shared -lstdc++

    (the -lstdc++ flag forces it to use the C++ libraries


2) If running the tcl outloud command gives you an error,
    you might need to comment out the line that says
    notes_initialize in the outloud script:
    /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers/outloud

    I think this affects the audible prompts but it got the
    TTS working for me with viavoice.


Doug



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* Re: where did viavoice go?
   where did viavoice go? cris
   ` Fwd: " Doug
@  ` Doug
     ` How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?) John Covici
   ` where did viavoice go? Patrick Turnage
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Doug @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Cris:

 > What do these files do?  can you use via voice as a software synth with 
speakup?

The "rtk" files are the runtime kits. There is a voice
synthesizer (called TTS for text to speech), and yes it
works with emacspeak. There is also a dictation runtime,
that is for recognition (not needed for emacspeak).

The "sdk" files are the software development kits (one
for TTS and one for dictation). These are the APIs for
programming apps to use viavoice.

For emacspeak you only need the TTS runtime.

I just sent a message with a couple of notes on getting
this working. On my slackware 9 based system I was able
to do this:

1) unpack the TTS rpm file using the --nodeps and --force
    flags, for example rpm -ivh tts.rpm --nodeps --force

2) You need to source /etc/profile or logout and back in
    because it writes and environment variable setting in
    there

3) Test ViaVoice first by running the examples in
    /usr/lib/ViaVoiceTTS/samples. Try runcmdlinespeak

4) Per the emacspeak directions you need to set an
    environment variable for the speech server, set
    it to the value "outloud". I think it's called
    DTK_SERVER.

5) You need to do a make in the directory
    /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers/linux-outloud

    On slackware 9.0 I needed to change line 13 of the
    Makefile to look like this:

    $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -g -o $@ tcleci.o -ltcl -ldl -shared -lstdc++

    I added the -lstdc++ flag to force it to use the C++ runtimes

6) I had to comment out the line that says notes_initialize in
    /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers/outloud
    otherwise I got errors

7) Run the command tcl outloud in the directory
    /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/emacspeak/servers/

Note that you need tcl and tclx to make this work.

On slackware 9.0 there is a binary for emacspeak in the extra
directory. But I compiled emacspeak from source.

I have no idea if this works on redhat ...

   -- Doug










>Cris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Doug" <wearable@shawcable.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:20 PM
>Subject: Fwd: where did viavoice go?
>
>
> > Here's the whole set of viavoice for linux files
> >
> >  > http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/Linux/ViaVoice/
> >
> > This might be your last chance to grab them, they
> > have been nowhere to be found on the net for a
> > while already, except the dictation runtime, which
> > is still on the IBM site. The sdks and the text
> > to speech (TTS) stuff is no longer on the IBM site.
> > Grab them now while you still can. Festival is
> > free but viavoice is nice sounding and probably
> > the best recognition tools available on linux.
> >
> >    -- Doug
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>_______________________________________________
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>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup




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* Re: where did viavoice go?
   ` Fwd: " Doug
@  cris
   ` Fwd: " Doug
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: cris @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

What do these files do?  can you use via voice as a software synth with
speakup?
Cris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug" <wearable@shawcable.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:20 PM
Subject: Fwd: where did viavoice go?


> Here's the whole set of viavoice for linux files
>
>  > http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~laird/Linux/ViaVoice/
>
> This might be your last chance to grab them, they
> have been nowhere to be found on the net for a
> while already, except the dictation runtime, which
> is still on the IBM site. The sdks and the text
> to speech (TTS) stuff is no longer on the IBM site.
> Grab them now while you still can. Festival is
> free but viavoice is nice sounding and probably
> the best recognition tools available on linux.
>
>    -- Doug
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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* Re: where did viavoice go?
   where did viavoice go? cris
   ` Fwd: " Doug
   ` Doug
@  ` Patrick Turnage
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Turnage @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Are these the viavoice files that work with emacsspeak? I had VIAvoice from
a while ago the tts and sdk but.. it never worked with emacsspeak from the
summer. Is this something different? 


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* How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
   ` Doug
@    ` John Covici
       ` Jacob Schmude
       ` Thomas D. Ward
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: John Covici @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

I have been unable to get viavoice to do anything -- I installed
(using alien) viavoice_tts_rtk_5.tar and viavoice_tts_sdk_5.tar, but
when I went into the programs under the samples directory, the
cmdlinespeak compiled, but complained loudly that it couldn't create
an esi handle and seemed to be looking for esi.ini (on Linux?).
Also, the filespeak program wouldn't even compile -- it was
complaining about some c++ errors.

Has anyone figured out how to get this to work -- I am interested in
it for possibly emacspeak and also for gnopernicus access.

-- 
         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
     ` How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?) John Covici
@      ` Jacob Schmude
         ` John Covici
       ` Thomas D. Ward
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jacob Schmude @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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Hi
Well, yes it actually does need eci.ini. Use the inigen program provided in 
viavoice's bin directory. To use it, type something like:
inigen /usr/lib/enu50.so eci.ini
Note that viavoice is quite buggy at best, even when not using the alsa 
drivers. It seems to crash every 10 minutes or so.



At 02:03 5/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>I have been unable to get viavoice to do anything -- I installed
>(using alien) viavoice_tts_rtk_5.tar and viavoice_tts_sdk_5.tar, but
>when I went into the programs under the samples directory, the
>cmdlinespeak compiled, but complained loudly that it couldn't create
>an esi handle and seemed to be looking for esi.ini (on Linux?).

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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
     ` How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?) John Covici
       ` Jacob Schmude
@      ` Thomas D. Ward
         ` OT " Kenny Hitt
                         ` (2 more replies)
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which makes
speech real choppy.
I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.

----- Original Message -----
From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:03 AM
Subject: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)


> I have been unable to get viavoice to do anything -- I installed
> (using alien) viavoice_tts_rtk_5.tar and viavoice_tts_sdk_5.tar, but
> when I went into the programs under the samples directory, the
> cmdlinespeak compiled, but complained loudly that it couldn't create
> an esi handle and seemed to be looking for esi.ini (on Linux?).
> Also, the filespeak program wouldn't even compile -- it was
> complaining about some c++ errors.
>
> Has anyone figured out how to get this to work -- I am interested in
> it for possibly emacspeak and also for gnopernicus access.
>
> --
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* OT Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
       ` Thomas D. Ward
@        ` Kenny Hitt
           ` Thomas D. Ward
         ` Thomas Stivers
         ` Mike Keithley
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi.  I've been told twice now on the gnome-accessibility list that
festival is the cause of my Gnopernicus not reading much of the
information in Gnome.  How
are you getting around that problem with festival?

          Kenny

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 11:31:33AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
> getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which makes
> speech real choppy.
> I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
> with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:03 AM
> Subject: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
> 
> 
> > I have been unable to get viavoice to do anything -- I installed
> > (using alien) viavoice_tts_rtk_5.tar and viavoice_tts_sdk_5.tar, but
> > when I went into the programs under the samples directory, the
> > cmdlinespeak compiled, but complained loudly that it couldn't create
> > an esi handle and seemed to be looking for esi.ini (on Linux?).
> > Also, the filespeak program wouldn't even compile -- it was
> > complaining about some c++ errors.
> >
> > Has anyone figured out how to get this to work -- I am interested in
> > it for possibly emacspeak and also for gnopernicus access.
> >
> > --
> >          John Covici
> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
       ` Jacob Schmude
@        ` John Covici
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: John Covici @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

OK, thanks for the hint, it does seem to talk and gnome-speech tests
work, but the actual gnopernicus does not, now on to try emacspeak.

on Fri, 09 May 2003 09:15:29 -0400 Jacob Schmude <jacobs@surferie.net> wrote:

> Hi
> Well, yes it actually does need eci.ini. Use the inigen program
> provided in viavoice's bin directory. To use it, type something like:
> inigen /usr/lib/enu50.so eci.ini
> Note that viavoice is quite buggy at best, even when not using the
> alsa drivers. It seems to crash every 10 minutes or so.
>


-- 
         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
       ` Thomas D. Ward
         ` OT " Kenny Hitt
@        ` Thomas Stivers
           ` Thomas D. Ward
         ` Mike Keithley
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On 05/09/03 11:31 AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
> getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which makes
> speech real choppy.
> I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
> with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.

I have been working with gnopernicus with festival on a debian system and have had
next to no luck getting it to do anything useful. I can get the thing to
talk, but the documentation (if you can call it that) leaves much to be
desired. Perhapse we should pool our resources and hire them a bilingual
person for documentation, but anyhow, what tasks have you been able to
perform with gnopernicus, and what resource have you been using to
figure it out? Thank you for any help you can provide. I apologise for
sounding off about things, but I have been seeing vaporware for
gnopernicus and the *wonderful* world of xwindows since last summer and
I have yet to really access anything with it.

-- 
Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
carefully than others.
Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD


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* Re: OT Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
         ` OT " Kenny Hitt
@          ` Thomas D. Ward
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Interesting. Well, I actually helped set it up for a friend, and we are
still working on the setup. Festival was working fine where viavoice is
still having troubles on the persons system.
I've been out of the loop for a while and I assume the guys from the Gnome
access list must know something I'm not aware of at this time.


----- Original Message -----
From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:20 PM
Subject: OT Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)


> Hi.  I've been told twice now on the gnome-accessibility list that
> festival is the cause of my Gnopernicus not reading much of the
> information in Gnome.  How
> are you getting around that problem with festival?
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 11:31:33AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
> > getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which
makes
> > speech real choppy.
> > I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
> > with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:03 AM
> > Subject: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
> >
> >
> > > I have been unable to get viavoice to do anything -- I installed
> > > (using alien) viavoice_tts_rtk_5.tar and viavoice_tts_sdk_5.tar, but
> > > when I went into the programs under the samples directory, the
> > > cmdlinespeak compiled, but complained loudly that it couldn't create
> > > an esi handle and seemed to be looking for esi.ini (on Linux?).
> > > Also, the filespeak program wouldn't even compile -- it was
> > > complaining about some c++ errors.
> > >
> > > Has anyone figured out how to get this to work -- I am interested in
> > > it for possibly emacspeak and also for gnopernicus access.
> > >
> > > --
> > >          John Covici
> > >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
         ` Thomas Stivers
@          ` Thomas D. Ward
             ` Kenny Hitt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi, gnopernicus works farely well with gedit, mozilla, and various other
gnome applications assuming it is properly configured.
For example: have you turned gnomes accessibility framework on? Allot of
people forget to set this to true, and gnopernicus works porely.
>From your bash prompt type:
gconftool-2 -s -t /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true
Try that and see if that is why gnopernicus is working porely.
My usage of gnopernicus has been only done on RH 8 and soon a 9.0 box of my
own and I'm not sure about how well it operates on Debian.


----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Stivers <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)


> On 05/09/03 11:31 AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
> > getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which
makes
> > speech real choppy.
> > I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
> > with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
>
> I have been working with gnopernicus with festival on a debian system and
have had
> next to no luck getting it to do anything useful. I can get the thing to
> talk, but the documentation (if you can call it that) leaves much to be
> desired. Perhapse we should pool our resources and hire them a bilingual
> person for documentation, but anyhow, what tasks have you been able to
> perform with gnopernicus, and what resource have you been using to
> figure it out? Thank you for any help you can provide. I apologise for
> sounding off about things, but I have been seeing vaporware for
> gnopernicus and the *wonderful* world of xwindows since last summer and
> I have yet to really access anything with it.
>
> --
> Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
> carefully than others.
> Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
           ` Thomas D. Ward
@            ` Kenny Hitt
               ` Thomas D. Ward
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi.  I'm also getting nothing using Gnopernicus and festival.  I have
accessibility turned on.
What does "farely well" mean?  For example, does your Gnopernicus and
festival speak as well as the demo on the last Main Menu?  My setup
doesn't even come close to providing the info that that demo does.

If your setup talks as well as the Main Menu demo, would you mind
sending me your ~/.gconf/apps/gnopernicus directory?

          Kenny

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 03:48:22PM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> Hi, gnopernicus works farely well with gedit, mozilla, and various other
> gnome applications assuming it is properly configured.
> For example: have you turned gnomes accessibility framework on? Allot of
> people forget to set this to true, and gnopernicus works porely.
> >From your bash prompt type:
> gconftool-2 -s -t /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true
> Try that and see if that is why gnopernicus is working porely.
> My usage of gnopernicus has been only done on RH 8 and soon a 9.0 box of my
> own and I'm not sure about how well it operates on Debian.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Stivers <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
> 
> 
> > On 05/09/03 11:31 AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > > In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is rapidly
> > > getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards which
> makes
> > > speech real choppy.
> > > I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have tested
> > > with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
> >
> > I have been working with gnopernicus with festival on a debian system and
> have had
> > next to no luck getting it to do anything useful. I can get the thing to
> > talk, but the documentation (if you can call it that) leaves much to be
> > desired. Perhapse we should pool our resources and hire them a bilingual
> > person for documentation, but anyhow, what tasks have you been able to
> > perform with gnopernicus, and what resource have you been using to
> > figure it out? Thank you for any help you can provide. I apologise for
> > sounding off about things, but I have been seeing vaporware for
> > gnopernicus and the *wonderful* world of xwindows since last summer and
> > I have yet to really access anything with it.
> >
> > --
> > Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
> > carefully than others.
> > Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
             ` Kenny Hitt
@              ` Thomas D. Ward
                 ` Kenny Hitt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

IS festival speaking to you when you start gnopernicus?If it isn't try
passing a variable before starting.

export FESTIVAL=1

The gnopernicus compilation was actually for a friend on his system with
some outside help. We did get it working, but since my friend is out of town
for a few days  I won't be able to fully test it until he returns.
If I get it working as well as the main menu program I'll be happy to send
you the ~/.gconf/app/gnopernicus directory.
Hth.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)


> Hi.  I'm also getting nothing using Gnopernicus and festival.  I have
> accessibility turned on.
> What does "farely well" mean?  For example, does your Gnopernicus and
> festival speak as well as the demo on the last Main Menu?  My setup
> doesn't even come close to providing the info that that demo does.
>
> If your setup talks as well as the Main Menu demo, would you mind
> sending me your ~/.gconf/apps/gnopernicus directory?
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 03:48:22PM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > Hi, gnopernicus works farely well with gedit, mozilla, and various other
> > gnome applications assuming it is properly configured.
> > For example: have you turned gnomes accessibility framework on? Allot of
> > people forget to set this to true, and gnopernicus works porely.
> > >From your bash prompt type:
> > gconftool-2 -s -t /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true
> > Try that and see if that is why gnopernicus is working porely.
> > My usage of gnopernicus has been only done on RH 8 and soon a 9.0 box of
my
> > own and I'm not sure about how well it operates on Debian.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Thomas Stivers <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice
go?)
> >
> >
> > > On 05/09/03 11:31 AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > > > In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is
rapidly
> > > > getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards
which
> > makes
> > > > speech real choppy.
> > > > I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have
tested
> > > > with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
> > >
> > > I have been working with gnopernicus with festival on a debian system
and
> > have had
> > > next to no luck getting it to do anything useful. I can get the thing
to
> > > talk, but the documentation (if you can call it that) leaves much to
be
> > > desired. Perhapse we should pool our resources and hire them a
bilingual
> > > person for documentation, but anyhow, what tasks have you been able to
> > > perform with gnopernicus, and what resource have you been using to
> > > figure it out? Thank you for any help you can provide. I apologise for
> > > sounding off about things, but I have been seeing vaporware for
> > > gnopernicus and the *wonderful* world of xwindows since last summer
and
> > > I have yet to really access anything with it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends
more
> > > carefully than others.
> > > Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread

* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
               ` Thomas D. Ward
@                ` Kenny Hitt
                   ` Thomas D. Ward
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Of course I have speech!  Go get the program working with Festival
as well as the Main Menu demo before you make any
more comments.

          Kenny

On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 06:13:01AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> IS festival speaking to you when you start gnopernicus?If it isn't try
> passing a variable before starting.
> 
> export FESTIVAL=1
> 
> The gnopernicus compilation was actually for a friend on his system with
> some outside help. We did get it working, but since my friend is out of town
> for a few days  I won't be able to fully test it until he returns.
> If I get it working as well as the main menu program I'll be happy to send
> you the ~/.gconf/app/gnopernicus directory.
> Hth.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@knology.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
> 
> 
> > Hi.  I'm also getting nothing using Gnopernicus and festival.  I have
> > accessibility turned on.
> > What does "farely well" mean?  For example, does your Gnopernicus and
> > festival speak as well as the demo on the last Main Menu?  My setup
> > doesn't even come close to providing the info that that demo does.
> >
> > If your setup talks as well as the Main Menu demo, would you mind
> > sending me your ~/.gconf/apps/gnopernicus directory?
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> > On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 03:48:22PM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > > Hi, gnopernicus works farely well with gedit, mozilla, and various other
> > > gnome applications assuming it is properly configured.
> > > For example: have you turned gnomes accessibility framework on? Allot of
> > > people forget to set this to true, and gnopernicus works porely.
> > > >From your bash prompt type:
> > > gconftool-2 -s -t /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility true
> > > Try that and see if that is why gnopernicus is working porely.
> > > My usage of gnopernicus has been only done on RH 8 and soon a 9.0 box of
> my
> > > own and I'm not sure about how well it operates on Debian.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Thomas Stivers <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice
> go?)
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 05/09/03 11:31 AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> > > > > In all honesty festival is the better choice here. Viavoice is
> rapidly
> > > > > getting out dated, and it has problems with certain sound cards
> which
> > > makes
> > > > > speech real choppy.
> > > > > I suggest using festival or freetts with gnopernicus which I have
> tested
> > > > > with the latest build of gnopernicus on a Red Hat 9 system.
> > > >
> > > > I have been working with gnopernicus with festival on a debian system
> and
> > > have had
> > > > next to no luck getting it to do anything useful. I can get the thing
> to
> > > > talk, but the documentation (if you can call it that) leaves much to
> be
> > > > desired. Perhapse we should pool our resources and hire them a
> bilingual
> > > > person for documentation, but anyhow, what tasks have you been able to
> > > > perform with gnopernicus, and what resource have you been using to
> > > > figure it out? Thank you for any help you can provide. I apologise for
> > > > sounding off about things, but I have been seeing vaporware for
> > > > gnopernicus and the *wonderful* world of xwindows since last summer
> and
> > > > I have yet to really access anything with it.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends
> more
> > > > carefully than others.
> > > > Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org gpg: 45CBBABD
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
                 ` Kenny Hitt
@                  ` Thomas D. Ward
                     ` Kenny Hitt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas D. Ward @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Ok, Kenny. Since you are hard of hearing I will repete myself. Thursday
night a group of us worked on gnopernicus for a friend of mine, on his
computer, and it was vary late at night. When we quit it was working as far
as we could tell, and since my friend was leaving the next morning we hadn't
done much testing, but it was working from what testing we did do.
Second point, I have listened to the main menu program, last Wednesday to be
exact, and your insults that we did not have it working with festival or
that I did not listen to main menu demo I found insulting in the extreme.
Now, I was attempting to help you. If you don't want or need my help that is
fine by me. However, do not insult me as you just did. I will not put up
with insults.
If you want to do it all on your own go ahead. That is what the gnome
accessibility list is for.
>From now on I will help no one unless they specifically ask for my help.



 Message -----
From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)


> Of course I have speech!  Go get the program working with Festival
> as well as the Main Menu demo before you make any
> more comments.
>
>           Kenny
>



^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread

* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
                   ` Thomas D. Ward
@                    ` Kenny Hitt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Good.  I'll take no information over wrong information any day.

          Kenny
	  
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 11:12:15AM -0400, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
> Ok, Kenny. Since you are hard of hearing I will repete myself. Thursday
> night a group of us worked on gnopernicus for a friend of mine, on his
> computer, and it was vary late at night. When we quit it was working as far
> as we could tell, and since my friend was leaving the next morning we hadn't
> done much testing, but it was working from what testing we did do.
> Second point, I have listened to the main menu program, last Wednesday to be
> exact, and your insults that we did not have it working with festival or
> that I did not listen to main menu demo I found insulting in the extreme.
> Now, I was attempting to help you. If you don't want or need my help that is
> fine by me. However, do not insult me as you just did. I will not put up
> with insults.
> If you want to do it all on your own go ahead. That is what the gnome
> accessibility list is for.
> >From now on I will help no one unless they specifically ask for my help.
> 
> 
> 
>  Message -----
> From: Kenny Hitt <kennyhitt@knology.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:41 AM
> Subject: Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
> 
> 
> > Of course I have speech!  Go get the program working with Festival
> > as well as the Main Menu demo before you make any
> > more comments.
> >
> >           Kenny
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 


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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
       ` Thomas D. Ward
         ` OT " Kenny Hitt
         ` Thomas Stivers
@        ` Mike Keithley
           ` Toby Fisher
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Mike Keithley @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

How do you get started with festival?





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* Re: How to get viavoice working (was Re: where did viavoice go?)
         ` Mike Keithley
@          ` Toby Fisher
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Toby Fisher @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On Sat, 24 May 2003, Mike Keithley wrote:

> How do you get started with festival?

Go to
http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/

and have a good read.  You'll need to download and compile the
speech_tools package first before Festival will work, and this can take
some time but should be fairly straightforward.

HTH
 --
Toby Fisher	Email: toby@tjfisher.co.uk
Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272	Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
ICQ: #61744808
   Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
   See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html



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