* ocrxtr recognision software @ Christopher Moore ` Thomas D. Ward ` ccrawford 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Christopher Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hello listers, I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on or off list. Thanks Chris -- The Moon is Waxing Crescent (47% of Full) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ocrxtr recognision software Christopher Moore @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` ccrawford 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, OCR Shop is $$99 for a single computer license.If you order it also tell them you need the free command line scanner tool to make it accessible with speakup/emacspeak. A couple notes about OCR Shop. It only appears to work on Red Hat distros and Mandrake, and you need a scsi scanner compatible with the OCR Shop drivers. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Moore <christopher.h.moore@verizon.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: ocrxtr recognision software > Hello listers, > I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > or off list. > > Thanks > Chris > -- > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (47% of Full) > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ocrxtr recognision software Christopher Moore ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` ccrawford ` Terry Klarich 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: ccrawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup What does this software do? -- charlie Crawford. On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > Hello listers, > I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > or off list. > > Thanks > Chris > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` ccrawford @ ` Terry Klarich ` Terry Klarich ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Terry Klarich @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. Terry On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: >What does this software do? > >-- charlie Crawford. >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > >> Hello listers, >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on >> or off list. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Terry Klarich @ ` Terry Klarich ` Alex Snow ` ccrawford 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Terry Klarich @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I messed up. The cost is $250. I was thinking $300 because I purchased the yearly maintenance. Terry On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:26:51 -0500you write: >Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character >recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > >One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > >I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > >The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for >output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrx >tr >to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > >Terry >On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: >>What does this software do? >> >>-- charlie Crawford. >>On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: >> >>> Hello listers, >>> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone >>> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. >>> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an >>> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on >>> or off list. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Chris >>> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Speakup mailing list >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Terry Klarich ` Terry Klarich @ ` Alex Snow ` Igor Gueths ` Thomas D. Ward ` ccrawford 2 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Just curious, has anyone tried jocr? http://jocr.sourceforge.net -- A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Terry Klarich wrote: > Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character > recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > > One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > > I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > > The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for > output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr > to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > > Terry > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: > >What does this software do? > > > >-- charlie Crawford. > >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > > > >> Hello listers, > >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > >> or off list. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Chris > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Alex Snow @ ` Igor Gueths ` Adam Myrow ` Thomas D. Ward 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Alex have you tried jocr? if so how well does it work? May you code in the power of the source, may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Alex Snow wrote: > Just curious, has anyone tried jocr? > http://jocr.sourceforge.net > > > -- > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Terry Klarich wrote: > > > Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character > > recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > > > > One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > > > > I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > > > > The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for > > output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr > > to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > > > > Terry > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: > > >What does this software do? > > > > > >-- charlie Crawford. > > >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > > > > > >> Hello listers, > > >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > > >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > > >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > > >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > > >> or off list. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Chris > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Igor Gueths @ ` Adam Myrow ` Igor Gueths ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Adam Myrow @ ` Igor Gueths ` Thomas D. Ward ` ocrxtr recognision software Alex Snow ` Thomas D. Ward ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Spekaing of which, can anyone recommend any good ocr pkgs once I get a scanner? May you code in the power of the source, may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Adam Myrow wrote: > I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I > can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to > recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a > few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some > imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows > which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass > to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes > seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands > how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that > person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely > nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA > program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Igor Gueths @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` Adam Myrow ` ocrxtr recognision software Alex Snow 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup The best OCR solution I've found was OCR Shop. However, you require a scsi scanner which OCR Shop supports, and you really do need a Red Hat compatible distro to use OCR Shop. Which is one of the reasons I reject other distros. ----- Original Message ----- From: Igor Gueths <igueths@attbi.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > Spekaing of which, can anyone recommend any good ocr pkgs once I get a > scanner? > > May you code in the power of the source, > may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, > throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Adam Myrow wrote: > > > I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I > > can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to > > recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a > > few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some > > imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows > > which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass > > to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes > > seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands > > how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that > > person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely > > nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA > > program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Adam Myrow ` Thomas D. Ward 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > The best OCR solution I've found was OCR Shop. However, you require a scsi > scanner which OCR Shop supports, and you really do need a Red Hat compatible > distro to use OCR Shop. Which is one of the reasons I reject other distros. That is the reason I reject Redhat. Their so-called standard involves a hacked kernel source, mostly beta software, and what isn't beta is highly modified. On top of that, anybody notice how they release updates every day or two? I know if I was running a server, that isn't the type of software I'd want on it. Speaking of up2date, did you know that unless you pay for the service, it is only good for a limited time? I didn't until a few months ago. Despite my missgivings with Redhat, I had installed Redhat 8 on another partition. I was hoping to play with Gnopernicus. At the time, Redhat 8 was the first distribution to ship with Gnome 2. Well, a few months after I installed Redhat 8, I got an email from Redhat stating that my demo account for up2date was about to expire and that if I'd just take this little survey, I could get another 60 days before it expired. Since I hadn't gotten around to trying Gnopernicus out after all, and it still wasn't anywhere near production, I deleted Redhat and haven't looked back. Now, I don't mind that they want to charge for the update service. You can still download updates manually, and can install new versions from the Internet. what bugs me is that they never tell you that this is a demo account nor do they tell you how long it is good for. On top of that, I am still getting alerts in my email every day about the latest security fixes. If my account isn't valid, why are they continuing to bombard my mailbox? Why can't they release a stable version in the first place? Slackware seldom needs to update between distributions. Oh, I forgot that this was supposed to be about OCR software. So, what makes OCR Shop Redhat specific? Is it an RPM? Is OCRXTRA Redhat specific? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Adam Myrow @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` Slackware VS. Redhat (was Re: ocrxtr recognision software) Adam Myrow 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, I do believe I get update notifications, but not on a daily basis. As for uptodate I believe it once was free, but they now started charging for it. If I want an update I manually get the packages and do a rpm freshen install on them. There is also a way to get monthly updates on cd sent to you with all the updates applied. I would think being notified of updates, and getting the latest security fixes would be a good thing. Slackware doesn't update as regularly, and they have long periods before stable versions. This is both good, and has a bad side. Good because you are probably going to get the most stable version they can provide, but bad because they are slow to release updated patches. Your comment about Red Hat releasing unstable software is misleading. I believe they do release stable versions, but they discover security, and other issues throughout the course of the stable version cycle. Every distro discovers this or that after the release. Take sendmail for example. It is not a product of Red Hat, but it has a stream of security adviseries about security issues. Well, do you think the security issues in sendmail effects only Red Hat or do you think it would effect all distros including the Grand and invincible slackware? Oh, and because of various problems in sendmail I use postfix instead. Which by the way comes with Red Hat and not Slackware. Postfix is a hell of alot easier to configure, hell of allot more secure than sendmail, and over all hell of allot better product than sendmail. As for OCR Shop it has library dependancies,and I was told by Vivadata that they didn't recommend using other distros. You want to try and get it working on Slackware, Debian, etc go ahead and ttry the demo. At least you will know if it can be used with your distro. ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Myrow <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:06 PM Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > > > The best OCR solution I've found was OCR Shop. However, you require a scsi > > scanner which OCR Shop supports, and you really do need a Red Hat compatible > > distro to use OCR Shop. Which is one of the reasons I reject other distros. > > That is the reason I reject Redhat. Their so-called standard involves a > hacked kernel source, mostly beta software, and what isn't beta is highly > modified. On top of that, anybody notice how they release updates every > day or two? I know if I was running a server, that isn't the type of > software I'd want on it. Speaking of up2date, did you know that unless > you pay for the service, it is only good for a limited time? I didn't > until a few months ago. Despite my missgivings with Redhat, I had > installed Redhat 8 on another partition. I was hoping to play with > Gnopernicus. At the time, Redhat 8 was the first distribution to ship > with Gnome 2. Well, a few months after I installed Redhat 8, I got an > email from Redhat stating that my demo account for up2date was about to > expire and that if I'd just take this little survey, I could get another > 60 days before it expired. Since I hadn't gotten around to trying > Gnopernicus out after all, and it still wasn't anywhere near production, I > deleted Redhat and haven't looked back. Now, I don't mind that they want > to charge for the update service. You can still download updates > manually, and can install new versions from the Internet. what bugs me is > that they never tell you that this is a demo account nor do they tell you > how long it is good for. On top of that, I am still getting alerts in my > email every day about the latest security fixes. If my account isn't > valid, why are they continuing to bombard my mailbox? Why can't they > release a stable version in the first place? Slackware seldom needs to > update between distributions. > > Oh, I forgot that this was supposed to be about OCR software. So, what > makes OCR Shop Redhat specific? Is it an RPM? Is OCRXTRA Redhat > specific? > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Slackware VS. Redhat (was Re: ocrxtr recognision software) ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Adam Myrow 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > Your comment about Red Hat releasing unstable software is misleading. I > believe they do release stable versions, but they discover security, and > other issues throughout the course of the stable version cycle. Every distro > discovers this or that after the release. Well, here is an example of what I am talking about. I just downloaded the Grub RPM and used rpm2tgz to convert and extract it before I made this statement so I could be sure of its accuracy. Redhat suggests that you use Grub as your boot loader. The release notes for the last few versions state that they plan to drop Lilo eventually. Well, my beef with this is that GNU Grub isn't ready for anything but testing. To quote the official home page: "for now, GNU GRUB is not released publicly yet, but you can still get the test releases from alpha.gnu.org:/gnu/grub, and the latest version from CVS." I don't feel comfortable using a boot loader that is considered by its developers to be in Alpha stage. Yes, Grub has distinct advantages over Lilo, but for me, it's not worth the potential risk. Slackware has backed down a version of Lilo because the newest one caused trouble with RAID drives. They provide the newer version in the Extra directory so that people who want features from it can try it out. Another example is the ntp package. Ntp stands for network time protocol and it lets one set the computer's clock over the network. The program will check the time from the network periodically and will speed up or slow down the system clock to keep it as accurate as possible. Slackware ships with the unmodified stable release of NTP. Redhat doesn't exactly ship with a beta, but they have modified their version so that it can run as user NTP instead of root. This has some security benefits, I suppose, but it uses a command-line option that doesn't exist in the normal version. What if the user decides to upgrade to a new version later, or fall back to an earlier version because of a bug? They will have to modify their startup scripts to not use this non-standard extension. If I were Redhat, I'd be trying to get the extension patched into the official distribution if it's a good enough idea. > Take sendmail for example. It is not a product of Red Hat, but it has a > stream of security adviseries about security issues. Well, do you think the > security issues in sendmail effects only Red Hat or do you think it would > effect all distros including the Grand and invincible slackware? Yes, and in the case where a major hole is discovered in Sendmail, Slackware will provide a patch on their FTP site. The versions of Redhat I used didn't appear to have an alternative to Sendmail, but it's possible I missed it given that it is very hard to control what packages get installed on a Redhat system. Unless you go through the steps in exactly the right order to select packages individually, or do a full install of every single package, you will wind up missing a lot of good packages like Lynx and Pine. Don't get me wrong, Slackware isn't perfect. I actually learned some things from Redhat. For example, I learned how to configure Sendmail to not permit any connections from any computer other than the local host by looking at how Redhat sets up Sendmail by default. I also think Redhats ability to set what services start and stop at boot time is a great idea. I didn't care for its hardware detection because it didn't pick up everything and causes annoying delays at boot time. I also detest how a simple thing like configuring the system to run hdparm with certain parameters has to be done in its own script. I guess what this whole thing boils down to is personal preference, and we are all getting worked up over it. That includes me. It's just that when I hear something about how a potentially useful commercial product is created in such a way as to only work with a particularly popular version of Linux, it puts my hair on end. Especially since the web site doesn't explicitly state that it requires Redhat. It just says Linux. I've gone ahead and downloaded the demo of OCR Shop and will see what exactly I can get it to do. Anybody know if there is a demo of OCRXTRA? I couldn't find one, and since it costs more, I'd certainly like to try it before investing in it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Igor Gueths ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Alex Snow 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Are we talking linux or winblows? for linux if you want ocr chances are you're gonna have to pay for it. -- A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Igor Gueths wrote: > Spekaing of which, can anyone recommend any good ocr pkgs once I get a > scanner? > > May you code in the power of the source, > may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, > throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Adam Myrow wrote: > > > I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I > > can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to > > recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a > > few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some > > imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows > > which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass > > to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes > > seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands > > how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that > > person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely > > nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA > > program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Adam Myrow ` Igor Gueths @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` Terry Klarich ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Most of the Vivadata stuff is directly designed to run on Red Hat and Red Hat compatible Linux distros. If you can play around with the stuff you might get it work, but Vivadata won't garentee non Red hat compatible distros. ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Myrow <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 6:33 PM Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I > can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to > recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a > few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some > imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows > which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass > to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes > seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands > how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that > person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely > nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA > program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Terry Klarich ` Thomas D. Ward 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Terry Klarich @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:30:05 -0400you write: >Most of the Vivadata stuff is directly designed to run on Red Hat and Red >Hat compatible Linux distros. >If you can play around with the stuff you might get it work, but Vivadata >won't garentee non Red hat compatible distros. For ocrxtr, it is nothing more than a unix filter. I think it would run on any release of linux. It does not even know or care which scanner or driver you are using. You have to install and configure sane. So, any supported sane scanner will work. I have a Cannon canoscan lide 20. It's a USB scanner. Works fine and runs off the usb power. I can put it in my laptop case and take it with me. Scanshop is not the same product as ocrxtr. In fact, ocrxtr contains a better algritham for ocr than scanshop. Terry ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Terry Klarich @ ` Thomas D. Ward 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, I am glad OCRXTR will work coss Linux platforms. In attempting to get OCR Shopworking with Slack 9 it wasn't working for me, and I've since nuked Slack 9, because it is becoming clear it doesn't fill my needs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Klarich <terry@ki5zw.ampr.org> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:30:05 -0400you write: > >Most of the Vivadata stuff is directly designed to run on Red Hat and Red > >Hat compatible Linux distros. > >If you can play around with the stuff you might get it work, but Vivadata > >won't garentee non Red hat compatible distros. > > > For ocrxtr, it is nothing more than a unix filter. I think it would run on any release of linux. It does not even know or care > which scanner or driver you are using. You have to install and configure sane. So, any supported sane scanner will work. I have > a Cannon canoscan lide 20. It's a USB scanner. Works fine and runs off the usb power. I can put it in my laptop case and take it > with me. > > Scanshop is not the same product as ocrxtr. In fact, ocrxtr contains a better algritham for ocr than scanshop. > > Terry > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Adam Myrow ` Igor Gueths ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Alex Snow 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi. thanks for the info. I doubted the quality of this prog, and development seems to be pretty slow.x -- A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Adam Myrow wrote: > I wouldn't suggest jocr AKA gocr for anything except experimentation. I > can print out a page on my inkjet printer and scan it. If I try to > recognize it with gocr, the output is mostly underline characters with a > few words. You can sometimes get the gist of the text with some > imagination. I have an ancient version of Omnipage PRO under Windows > which does far better. Granted, there are a lot of options you can pass > to gocr, but they only seem to make things worse. All the different modes > seem to make no difference. I would suggest that somebody who understands > how OCR works could seriously improve the software, but I am not that > person. I have halfway decent programming skills, but no absolutely > nothing about how OCR works. BTW, where does one obtain this OCRXTRA > program? Will it run on Slackware, or is it only functional in Redhat? > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Alex Snow ` Igor Gueths @ ` Thomas D. Ward ` Igor Gueths 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Thomas D. Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Well, I felt the ocr quality was vary pore with gocr also known as jocr. Though I am use to scanning with Omnipage 12.0 Pro for Windows so unless it's quality is equal to what profetional ocr engines have my opinion will be biast. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > Just curious, has anyone tried jocr? > http://jocr.sourceforge.net > > > -- > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up yours!" > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Terry Klarich wrote: > > > Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character > > recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > > > > One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > > > > I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > > > > The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for > > output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr > > to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > > > > Terry > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: > > >What does this software do? > > > > > >-- charlie Crawford. > > >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > > > > > >> Hello listers, > > >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > > >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > > >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > > >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > > >> or off list. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Chris > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Speakup mailing list > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Thomas D. Ward @ ` Igor Gueths 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I mean is it readable? Like can I scan a printed page and expect to understand it? May you code in the power of the source, may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote: > Well, I felt the ocr quality was vary pore with gocr also known as jocr. > Though I am use to scanning with Omnipage 12.0 Pro for Windows so unless > it's quality is equal to what profetional ocr engines have my opinion will > be biast. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: ocrxtr recognision software > > > > Just curious, has anyone tried jocr? > > http://jocr.sourceforge.net > > > > > > -- > > A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up > yours!" > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Terry Klarich wrote: > > > > > Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a > graphical file of many formats and runs optical character > > > recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > > > > > > One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and > configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > > > > > > I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. > This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > > > > > > The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. > There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for > > > output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested > in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr > > > to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will > perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > > > > > > Terry > > > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: > > > >What does this software do? > > > > > > > >-- charlie Crawford. > > > >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hello listers, > > > >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from > someone > > > >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any > prices. > > > >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable > for an > > > >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested > either on > > > >> or off list. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> Chris > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Speakup mailing list > > > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: ocrxtr recognision software ` Terry Klarich ` Terry Klarich ` Alex Snow @ ` ccrawford 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: ccrawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Cool. Sonds very good and it's like many other things a mattter of money eh? -- charlie Crawford. On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Terry Klarich wrote: > Ocrxtr is a unix filter program which does no more than take as input a graphical file of many formats and runs optical character > recognition on it. It's output is an ascii text. Very simple. > > One need only to obtain a scanner of their own choosing, install and configure sane. Send the resulting tiff files to ocrxtr. > > I've used the Kurtzwiel reading edge and Aladen Ambassador for years. This product far exceeds these products capibilities. > > The product costs $300 if you are blind and using it for home use. There are several add-on's for $50 each. These are mainly for > output of specialized formats. However, the one you might be interested in is the pdf input license. This allows you to use ocrxtr > to read pdf files. This is superior to pdf2txt because ocrxtr will perform ocr on the graphical areas of a pdf. > > Terry > On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT)you write: > >What does this software do? > > > >-- charlie Crawford. > >On Wed, 9 Apr 2003, Christopher Moore wrote: > > > >> Hello listers, > >> I recently saw a rave review of the ocrxtr software for linux from someone > >> on this list. I looked at the vividata site and couldn't find any prices. > >> That is generally a bad sign meaning the price is beyond affordable for an > >> individual. If anyone has any idea of prices, I'd be inteerested either on > >> or off list. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Chris > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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