Re: networking PC and laptop

Re: networking PC and laptop

[Doug]

Lorenzo,

 > I am running Slackware 9.0 on both computers ...

What you probably want is to use the 192.168.0.x
IP address scheme for the PC and laptop. These
addresses are reserved for 'internal' ie not real
IP addresses. Then you will set up IP masquerading
on the PC, which will connect to the net. There
are lots of docs on how to set up masquerading.
For disk sharing, yes you probably want to use
nfs although there are many alternatives these
days. As with masquerading, there are lots of
docs on how to set up NFS. In the slackware
install you'll see some NFS tools, one being
the NFS daemons, you want those on the server
(PC). It may take a while to get all of this
working (masq and nfs) but it will work very
reliably once you are done. If you wanted to
add a windows box to the same internal lan
you could run samba on the server (PC) for
disk sharing, and for internet the PC just
acts like a gateway (nothing special to do
other than configure ethernet).

I suggest that you set up your PC as the IP
192.168.0.1, it will be the gateway. Then
set up the laptop as 192.168.0.2 and set
the gateway to 192.168.0.1. Read the docs
on IP maquerading for how to configure that.
Try a google search, there are lots of docs.
Some show very simple setups including
exactly what you want to do (just connect
two PCs for sharing interney connection).

   -- Doug








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networking PC and laptop

[Lorenzo Prince]

Hi all.  I am trying to network my PC and my laptop.  I have two ethernet
cards in my PC and one in my laptop, as the PC needs to connect both the
internet and the laptop.  I need to share files between the two computers,
and if possible, connect both computers to the internet using one
connection.  I know a little about nfs, but I'm not sure whether or not
this is what I need.  I also need to know how I should setup my eth1 on my
PC and eth0 on my laptop so that they can connect properly.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

Re: networking PC and laptop

[Lorenzo Prince]

P.s.  I forgot to mention in the previous email that I am running
Slackware 9.0 on both computers, if this helps.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

Re: networking PC and laptop

[Glenn Ervinat home]

I use a router which costs a little over 100 dollars.
We use a dLink7-13 ( I think that is the model number ), and my wife uses a
laptop and I have my PC hooked up.

On that other operating system; This is where "network neighborhood" on the
desktop comes in.
You go into network neighborhood and you can access the entire computer, and
vice versa, unless you go into "my computer" and under "file" while on a
drive or folder, you uncheck "shared".

I am sure that dLink works in Linux.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorenzo Prince" <lorenzo@princenet.sytes.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: networking PC and laptop


Hi all.  I am trying to network my PC and my laptop.  I have two ethernet
cards in my PC and one in my laptop, as the PC needs to connect both the
internet and the laptop.  I need to share files between the two computers,
and if possible, connect both computers to the internet using one
connection.  I know a little about nfs, but I'm not sure whether or not
this is what I need.  I also need to know how I should setup my eth1 on my
PC and eth0 on my laptop so that they can connect properly.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Gregory Nowak]

For internet sharing, you'd use iptables.

For drive sharing, you'd use samba.

There are a good number of posts on these topics in the list archives, and of course, there are the howtos.

Greg


On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 02:41:46PM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote:
> Hi all.  I am trying to network my PC and my laptop.  I have two ethernet
> cards in my PC and one in my laptop, as the PC needs to connect both the
> internet and the laptop.  I need to share files between the two computers,
> and if possible, connect both computers to the internet using one
> connection.  I know a little about nfs, but I'm not sure whether or not
> this is what I need.  I also need to know how I should setup my eth1 on my
> PC and eth0 on my laptop so that they can connect properly.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
> 
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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
money on a dedicated router.  

          Kenny

On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:52:21PM -0500, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> I use a router which costs a little over 100 dollars.
> We use a dLink7-13 ( I think that is the model number ), and my wife uses a
> laptop and I have my PC hooked up.

Re: networking PC and laptop

[Doug]

You can go wireless with a PC too ... plug in a USB
802.11 device in the PC USB port ... plug a PCMCIA
or USB 802.11 in the laptop. I am using the Actiontec
USB 802.11 and also Linksys ... although they are
tricky to configure (uses linux-wlan drivers from
linux-wlan.org). You can also get PCI wireless cards
for the PC ... the routers are convenient but if the
PC is already there and you have the time/inclination
to set up IP masquerading and firwalling, it's plenty
capable. My friends say good things about some of
these personal router/firewall boxes though because
they are so easy to set up, and they require no
maintenance. On a PC-based router you need to keep
upgrading the software packages or eventually the
hackers will find their way in :(

   -- Doug


Kenny wrote:
>Yes, but the part that I might have not mentioned is that with a router, you
>can go wireless, and that is really nice!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 AM
>Subject: Re: networking PC and laptop
>
>
>Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
>money on a dedicated router.

Re: networking PC and laptop

[Glenn Ervinat home]

Yes, but the part that I might have not mentioned is that with a router, you
can go wireless, and that is really nice!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: networking PC and laptop


Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
money on a dedicated router.

          Kenny

On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:52:21PM -0500, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> I use a router which costs a little over 100 dollars.
> We use a dLink7-13 ( I think that is the model number ), and my wife uses
a
> laptop and I have my PC hooked up.

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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Alex Snow]

Only if you get a wireless router.

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On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:

> Yes, but the part that I might have not mentioned is that with a router, you
> can go wireless, and that is really nice!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 AM
> Subject: Re: networking PC and laptop
>
>
> Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
> money on a dedicated router.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:52:21PM -0500, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> > I use a router which costs a little over 100 dollars.
> > We use a dLink7-13 ( I think that is the model number ), and my wife uses
> a
> > laptop and I have my PC hooked up.
>
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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Alex Snow]

I find the routers more limited in their config options than using a pc.
like I havent seen a router yet that can statically assing ip addresses
using dhcp and mac addresses.

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On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Doug wrote:

> You can go wireless with a PC too ... plug in a USB
> 802.11 device in the PC USB port ... plug a PCMCIA
> or USB 802.11 in the laptop. I am using the Actiontec
> USB 802.11 and also Linksys ... although they are
> tricky to configure (uses linux-wlan drivers from
> linux-wlan.org). You can also get PCI wireless cards
> for the PC ... the routers are convenient but if the
> PC is already there and you have the time/inclination
> to set up IP masquerading and firwalling, it's plenty
> capable. My friends say good things about some of
> these personal router/firewall boxes though because
> they are so easy to set up, and they require no
> maintenance. On a PC-based router you need to keep
> upgrading the software packages or eventually the
> hackers will find their way in :(
>
>    -- Doug
>
>
> Kenny wrote:
> >Yes, but the part that I might have not mentioned is that with a router, you
> >can go wireless, and that is really nice!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 AM
> >Subject: Re: networking PC and laptop
> >
> >
> >Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
> >money on a dedicated router.
>
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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Lorenzo Prince]

Well, yes, wireless would be extremely nice, but unfortunately, money is
an issue at the moment, as I am a student on a limited income.  I guess
I'll just have to use my 14 foot network cable.  At least it will stretch
to  to the other side of the room.  LOL.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

Glenn Ervinat home staggered into view and mumbled:

> Yes, but the part that I might have not mentioned is that with a router, you
> can go wireless, and that is really nice!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@knology.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:42 AM
> Subject: Re: networking PC and laptop
>
>
> Hi.  Since he already has a pc with two nics, he doesn't need to spend
> money on a dedicated router.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Sun, Apr 06, 2003 at 01:52:21PM -0500, Glenn Ervinat home wrote:
> > I use a router which costs a little over 100 dollars.
> > We use a dLink7-13 ( I think that is the model number ), and my wife uses
> a
> > laptop and I have my PC hooked up.
>
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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Lorenzo Prince]

HELP!!!!!

I've looked everywhere I can think of and I can't even get my PC and
laptop to talk to each other.  I configured my PC's eth1 with the address
192.168.0.1 and the laptop's eth0 to use the address 192.168.0.2.  I set
the laptop to use 192.168.0.1 as the gateway.  I set up masquerading on
the PC.  But I can't even ping the PC from the laptop or the laptop from
the pc, and they are directly connected with a standard network cable.
What am I missing here?  Did I buy the wrong cable or something?

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

Doug staggered into view and mumbled:

> Lorenzo,
>
>  > I am running Slackware 9.0 on both computers ...
>
> What you probably want is to use the 192.168.0.x
> IP address scheme for the PC and laptop. These
> addresses are reserved for 'internal' ie not real
> IP addresses. Then you will set up IP masquerading
> on the PC, which will connect to the net. There
> are lots of docs on how to set up masquerading.
> For disk sharing, yes you probably want to use
> nfs although there are many alternatives these
> days. As with masquerading, there are lots of
> docs on how to set up NFS. In the slackware
> install you'll see some NFS tools, one being
> the NFS daemons, you want those on the server
> (PC). It may take a while to get all of this
> working (masq and nfs) but it will work very
> reliably once you are done. If you wanted to
> add a windows box to the same internal lan
> you could run samba on the server (PC) for
> disk sharing, and for internet the PC just
> acts like a gateway (nothing special to do
> other than configure ethernet).
>
> I suggest that you set up your PC as the IP
> 192.168.0.1, it will be the gateway. Then
> set up the laptop as 192.168.0.2 and set
> the gateway to 192.168.0.1. Read the docs
> on IP maquerading for how to configure that.
> Try a google search, there are lots of docs.
> Some show very simple setups including
> exactly what you want to do (just connect
> two PCs for sharing interney connection).
>
>    -- Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Lorenzo
> >
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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Patrick Turnage]

Hello.
Maybe you need a cross over cable instead of a standard ethernet cable.


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Re: networking PC and laptop

[Alex Snow]

I think I know what's the problem.  If your connecting two machines
directly you need to use a crossover ethernet cable.  are you using one?

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On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Lorenzo Prince wrote:

> HELP!!!!!
>
> I've looked everywhere I can think of and I can't even get my PC and
> laptop to talk to each other.  I configured my PC's eth1 with the address
> 192.168.0.1 and the laptop's eth0 to use the address 192.168.0.2.  I set
> the laptop to use 192.168.0.1 as the gateway.  I set up masquerading on
> the PC.  But I can't even ping the PC from the laptop or the laptop from
> the pc, and they are directly connected with a standard network cable.
> What am I missing here?  Did I buy the wrong cable or something?
>
> Lorenzo
>
> E Pluribus Unix
>
> Doug staggered into view and mumbled:
>
> > Lorenzo,
> >
> >  > I am running Slackware 9.0 on both computers ...
> >
> > What you probably want is to use the 192.168.0.x
> > IP address scheme for the PC and laptop. These
> > addresses are reserved for 'internal' ie not real
> > IP addresses. Then you will set up IP masquerading
> > on the PC, which will connect to the net. There
> > are lots of docs on how to set up masquerading.
> > For disk sharing, yes you probably want to use
> > nfs although there are many alternatives these
> > days. As with masquerading, there are lots of
> > docs on how to set up NFS. In the slackware
> > install you'll see some NFS tools, one being
> > the NFS daemons, you want those on the server
> > (PC). It may take a while to get all of this
> > working (masq and nfs) but it will work very
> > reliably once you are done. If you wanted to
> > add a windows box to the same internal lan
> > you could run samba on the server (PC) for
> > disk sharing, and for internet the PC just
> > acts like a gateway (nothing special to do
> > other than configure ethernet).
> >
> > I suggest that you set up your PC as the IP
> > 192.168.0.1, it will be the gateway. Then
> > set up the laptop as 192.168.0.2 and set
> > the gateway to 192.168.0.1. Read the docs
> > on IP maquerading for how to configure that.
> > Try a google search, there are lots of docs.
> > Some show very simple setups including
> > exactly what you want to do (just connect
> > two PCs for sharing interney connection).
> >
> >    -- Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >Lorenzo
> > >
> > >E Pluribus Unix
> > >
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