serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

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Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Janina Sajka]

Cheryl:

Are you saying you get no speech over the serial port?

I've heard that the physical db9 port on the backplane of newer Thinkpads 
is now actually being assigned to the first serial device by default. But, 
perhaps this unit is setup along the lines of all older IBM Thinkpads, 
which default to the first serial device on the infra-red port. Because of 
their bios limitations, I believe you can only have one or the other, 
infra-red, or rs232c on the db9 port.

Of course this can be changed in cmos.

It can also be changed from DOS. Create a boot disk that boots DOSm, 
preferably with speech. You should have a directory called c:\thinkpad. If 
so, the following should fix you right up. Turn the following into a batch 
file and execute it. You will need to reboot for the changes to take 
effect, but this should get that db9 port working.


@echo off
c:
cd c:\thinkpad\
ps2 serial on
ps2 sera enable

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Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hey, I was wondering if I could do something with this in dos. will try it.
Thanks.

Cheryl

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

This is getting stranger and stranger. I couldn't get anything Janina sent me to
work, but i knew I had booted dos because I copied a file on a: to another file
on a:.
so I tried doing a dir of c: and a dir of c:\thinkpad. In both cases, all i got
was
volume in drive C has no label

But I'm sure there are files on the hard drive because when I turn the laptop on
without a floppy I hear all sorts of sound from the hard drive that eventually
quiets down.
By the way, would the backslash on the laptop keypad be above return?
Thanks.

Cheryl

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  This is just a guess but the drive might use
NTSF instead of FAT.  I think Windows XP can use either one.
DOS can only read FAT file systems.

          Kenny

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Janina Sajka]

Cheryl:

It is possible that the Windows on this Thinkpad is 2000, and that the 
file system is NTFS, in which case you would get nothing on the C:> drive 
by booting DOS. Very possible.

Would you try putting the ps2 files on a floppy? You may still be able to 
configure your bios this way.

And, to answer your question, yes, the back slash is above return/enter. 
Actually, I find the Thinkpad keyboard brillaintly designed. Other than 
the FN key in the lower left corner, every key can be guessed correctly. 
The Function keys are grouped by fours, the six-pack is intact in the 
upper right hand corner, the cursor cross is identifiable as such, etc. 
And, once you know that the lower left key is fn, the two next to it are 
easily guessed to be ctrl and alt followed by the space bar.

I'm sure you've gotten that by now! <grin>
 On Tue, 20 
Aug 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> This is getting stranger and stranger. I couldn't get anything Janina sent me to
> work, but i knew I had booted dos because I copied a file on a: to another file
> on a:.
> so I tried doing a dir of c: and a dir of c:\thinkpad. In both cases, all i got
> was
> volume in drive C has no label
> 
> But I'm sure there are files on the hard drive because when I turn the laptop on
> without a floppy I hear all sorts of sound from the hard drive that eventually
> quiets down.
> By the way, would the backslash on the laptop keypad be above return?
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Janina and all.
I already copied the ps2 files to a dos boot floppy. then I ran ser.bat only I
took out all the directions to change to c: etc.
Unless i missed something, it didn't appear to work.
And yes, I'm sure this is either windows 2000 or xp I think 2000.

Cheryl

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Janina Sajka]

Well, it's certainly possible that the bios no longer responds to this 
earlier executable. It would be unfortunate, but it is possible.

Worst case scenario is that you have to make edits in the bios' interface, 
itself.

You did reboot after running your batch file and you did a reasonable test 
of some kind, right?

If we need to use sighted assistance, so be it. C:> is certainly not 
important. The serial port is.

Accessing the bios is likely:

Hold down F1 while powering up.

You will probably need to delete the infrared assignment before you can 
assign the serial port to the db9.

It's a graphical bios, probably. So, it's likely to be confusing even to 
the sighted assistant.

That may be cause to get IBM on the phone, right then and there.
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Hi Janina and all.
> I already copied the ps2 files to a dos boot floppy. then I ran ser.bat only I
> took out all the directions to change to c: etc.
> Unless i missed something, it didn't appear to work.
> And yes, I'm sure this is either windows 2000 or xp I think 2000.
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi Janina.
Yeah, I followed all the steps carefully several times over but it never hurts
to check.
How disappointing!
I may have somebody who will know how to do this coming this week to help me
with a hub for the desktop; if not, we may use a combination of my reader and
ibm on the phone.
thanks anyway for trying.

Cheryl

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Janina Sajka]

Sorry it didn't work out. I think it was worth a try, though, and it will 
be interesting to see what the actual solution is.


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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Cheryl Homiak]

Ok, I know this is dense, but I look at FN and all i can think of is function.
What is the FN key?
Sorry.

Cheryl

Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Kenny Hitt]

On my laptop it is used to make part of the keyboard into the num pad.
Also, the FN on along with the function keys let me do things like
suspend.

          Kenny

On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:43:44AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Ok, I know this is dense, but I look at FN and all i can think of is function.
> What is the FN key?
> Sorry.
> 
> Cheryl
> 
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Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Janina Sajka]

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> Ok, I know this is dense, but I look at FN and all i can think of is function.
> What is the FN key?
> Sorry.


No problem. It is just that--"function." Think of it as another function 
shifting key, just like ctrl and alt are keys that make other keys do 
different functions.

For example: FN+F7 cycles through three video settings. You'll care when 
you hook up to a monitor, or to a projector when doing a presentation. 
You'll care when running on batteries.

Mostly, it doesn't matter.

 > > Cheryl
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

RE: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt

[Dawes, Stephen]

The function key.
It provides you added functionality on the laptop keyboard.

1 commun use of it is to turn on and off the number pad, which is an
overlay of the keys
7 8 9
u i o
j k l
m , .

ETC.

HTH


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cheryl Homiak [mailto:chomiak@chartermi.net]
> Sent: 2002 August 20 9:44 AM
> To: speakup
> Subject: Re: serial port not showing on thinkpad: dmesg.txt
> 
> 
> Ok, I know this is dense, but I look at FN and all i can 
> think of is function.
> What is the FN key?
> Sorry.
> 
> Cheryl
> 
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