* Re: More ppp stuff.
` Anna Schneider
@ ` Aaron Howell
` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
` Ron Marriage
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Howell @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi there,
Once you have your own prompt back, providing the modem stays connected there's a good chance your ppp is working.
If you still want to access things on your provider's machine instead of your own, you need to find out the name of the machine and use telnet or ssh to connect to it.
otherwise, you can set up fetchmail to bring your mail down to your own machine and use pine from there.
Regards
Aaron
On Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 02:52:57PM -0700, Anna Schneider wrote:
>
> Okay, so I've added ppp to my user name, and got a new password for my ppp
> connection with my provider. All good. I dial in and everything goes,
> there are no error messages as far as I can tell, and then it finishes and
> I have my own system's prompt sitting there, and not that for my internet
> provider. The modem hasn't disconnected or anything, there aren't any
> failed and trying again messages, just my system's prompt instead of my
> provider's. Does this make any sense? I don't know what to do now. Hoe
> canI access pine on my provider's system for example if I don't get its
> prompt?
>
> I don't know if the comments in the set up instruction from Drizzle about
> using Pap or Chap, or about server and YP name are relevant or not. I
> could resend that message if people liked.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Anna
>
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Anna:
> >
> > May I suggest you always write to the Speakup list with questions? It
> > turns out I really don't know everything! <big grin>
> >
> > Apropos the advice from your ISP,
> >
> > Not sure how, exactly, you add -ppp to your username in the wvdial script,
> > and not sure you need to. Have you tried dialing in? What happens? Have
> > you simply appended -ppp to your username and tried that? Something like
> > "anna -ppp" or maybe without the space?
> >
> > I do ppp dialups using wvdial, but don't append anything like that.
> > Perhaps some of the wiser heads here can help more quickly than I.
> >
> > PS: Congrats on having an ISP that doesn't sneer at Linux.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Anna Schneider wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Janina. Anna Schneider again. I take forever to do computer things,
> > > but I have a bit of info and some questions for you.
> > >
> > > It turned out that one reason I couldn't get the login to finish with ppp
> > > was because I didn't have the proper set up with my provider. I decided
> > > to wait until August to change this, and now it is. I still have the
> > > wvdial.conf file made from your instructions, but based on the following
> > > informational message, it looks like my file needs to include some other
> > > things. Could you read it and tell me what PAP and CHAP are, and were I
> > > would put the server information and do I need IP and gateway slots in the
> > > file even if that information will be fed in from the other end?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Anna
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` Anna Schneider
` Aaron Howell
@ ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
` Ron Marriage
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Anna,
You likely succeeded in making a PPP connection. Your system prompt
is exactly what you're supposed to get. If you want the prompt on
Drizzle, you can use ssh to get there. This might be a comfortable way to
use the net for a little while, but you can use your system as if it
were the shell account on Drizzle. All the tools that you used there are
available to you on your own system. You can, for example, use fetchmail
to bring down your mail and process it with pine on your local system.
Eventually, you might want to copy your entire home directory from your
provider to your home directory on your local system, and possibly never
log into your shell account again.
If you have any questions, call or write. Calling will probably get
a quicker response.
HTH.
--
Bill in Denver
On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Anna Schneider wrote:
>
> Okay, so I've added ppp to my user name, and got a new password for my ppp
> connection with my provider. All good. I dial in and everything goes,
> there are no error messages as far as I can tell, and then it finishes and
> I have my own system's prompt sitting there, and not that for my internet
> provider. The modem hasn't disconnected or anything, there aren't any
> failed and trying again messages, just my system's prompt instead of my
> provider's. Does this make any sense? I don't know what to do now. Hoe
> canI access pine on my provider's system for example if I don't get its
> prompt?
>
> I don't know if the comments in the set up instruction from Drizzle about
> using Pap or Chap, or about server and YP name are relevant or not. I
> could resend that message if people liked.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Anna
>
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Anna:
> >
> > May I suggest you always write to the Speakup list with questions? It
> > turns out I really don't know everything! <big grin>
> >
> > Apropos the advice from your ISP,
> >
> > Not sure how, exactly, you add -ppp to your username in the wvdial script,
> > and not sure you need to. Have you tried dialing in? What happens? Have
> > you simply appended -ppp to your username and tried that? Something like
> > "anna -ppp" or maybe without the space?
> >
> > I do ppp dialups using wvdial, but don't append anything like that.
> > Perhaps some of the wiser heads here can help more quickly than I.
> >
> > PS: Congrats on having an ISP that doesn't sneer at Linux.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Anna Schneider wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Janina. Anna Schneider again. I take forever to do computer things,
> > > but I have a bit of info and some questions for you.
> > >
> > > It turned out that one reason I couldn't get the login to finish with ppp
> > > was because I didn't have the proper set up with my provider. I decided
> > > to wait until August to change this, and now it is. I still have the
> > > wvdial.conf file made from your instructions, but based on the following
> > > informational message, it looks like my file needs to include some other
> > > things. Could you read it and tell me what PAP and CHAP are, and were I
> > > would put the server information and do I need IP and gateway slots in the
> > > file even if that information will be fed in from the other end?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Anna
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:02:14 -0700
> > > From: Drizzle Technical Support <info@drizzle.net>
> > > To: annas@drizzle.com
> > > Subject: Drizzle Support - Linux PPP setup
> > >
> > > Hi Anna,
> > >
> > > If you're configuring Linux to connect to Drizzle, then we assume you have a
> > > firm grasp of how to connect to an ISP.
> > >
> > > You can use PAP or CHAP to login.
> > >
> > > For your dial up connection, you need to append your username with "-ppp"
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > annas-ppp
> > >
> > > Your connect script should look for some version of "login" and "Password"
> > > and send your username (with the -ppp) and your password.
> > >
> > > Your IP address and Gateway address will be assigned dynamically via DHCP,
> > > so you should leave them unspecified. Using 0.0.0.0 is the usual way of
> > > doing this.
> > >
> > > POP3 server: pop.drizzle.com
> > >
> > > SMTP server: smtp.drizzle.com
> > >
> > > Dial-up Numbers
> > > (206) 812-0034 - Seattle
> > > (425) 974-0190 - Bellevue/Eastside
> > > (425) 791-0139 - Everett/Snohomish
> > > (253) 579-0111 - Tacoma/Pierce
> > >
> > > This information is found online at http://www.drizzle.com/vital.html
> > >
> > > If you have questions or need help, just contact us. Our tech support hours
> > > are M-F 8 AM -7 PM.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Bill DeLarber
> > > Drizzle Internet NW
> > > info@drizzle.net
> > > (206) 447-2702
> > > (800) 378-7405
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: More ppp stuff.
` Anna Schneider
` Aaron Howell
` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
@ ` Ron Marriage
2 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ron Marriage @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
To see if you are actually connected you could do a ping of
their system.
just type
ping domain.com
substitute domain.com with the actual name of your provider.
You will get a series of responses back if you are actually
connected.
Do a Control-c to stop the pings.
You can transfer to their site by typing
ssh domain.com
again substitute your ISP for domain.com
If your ISP runs a special shell then they will give you the
exact name but it might be something like
ssh shell.domain.com
You'll be asked for your ID and password so have those
handy.
Once in you will either get a menu or a prompt from their
system.
If you only get a prompt you can browse the internet by
typing
lynx
then enter
if you want to view your mail on their system type
pine
then enter
If you are running a full version of linux then you can try
to type
lynx
at your command line and if you have it installed, a good
chance you do, then you will be able to surf the web from
your own system.
If you can use pine on their system do so for a bit, while
you readup on fetchmail and then later set up your own
system to get your mail from the ISP and keep the mail on
your own computer.
Ron
Anna Schneider wrote:
>
> Okay, so I've added ppp to my user name, and got a new password for my ppp
> connection with my provider. All good. I dial in and everything goes,
> there are no error messages as far as I can tell, and then it finishes and
> I have my own system's prompt sitting there, and not that for my internet
> provider. The modem hasn't disconnected or anything, there aren't any
> failed and trying again messages, just my system's prompt instead of my
> provider's. Does this make any sense? I don't know what to do now. Hoe
> canI access pine on my provider's system for example if I don't get its
> prompt?
>
> I don't know if the comments in the set up instruction from Drizzle about
> using Pap or Chap, or about server and YP name are relevant or not. I
> could resend that message if people liked.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Anna
--
===
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