Totally lost and confused

Totally lost and confused

[Chris Schulte]

Hi all,
I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.

I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now hearing
that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based on the
discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site, and
I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am totally lost
and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm even
in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
Tnx in advance,
Chris

Re: Totally lost and confused

[Christy Schulte]

Ok, I haven't researched this in great detail, but my understanding is this.

Debian, unlike a lot of other Linux distributions, can be added to and
worked on by many different people, it's not just a certain closed group.
Therefore, changes are constantly being made and it's constantly in testing
mode. Therefore, there are two versions of debian. The "stable" version,
currently 2.2 I believe, is the one that is only updated when there are
major changes to put in. It has been tested and run by a lot of people and
should run with minimal problems. The unstable version, which could be the
"potato" one but not sure, is the under development one, like a beta. Any
new submissions are put into that one first, so it's constantly being
changed and updated.

How exactly these updates are done and by whom I'm not sure, but we went
with the stable version our our machines. You can get more info on this at
www.debian.org. Also once it's installed, check out the apt-get and
apt-cache commands, really cool.

On another topic. Has anyone been successful using ddclient with debian? If
so, would you mind writing me privately? I got the thing installed, but it's
not updating the ip address an the docs aren't all that helpful. Then again
it's been years since I've seriously worked with this stuff.

Thanks.
Christy





----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schulte" <cjschulte@home.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:00 PM
Subject: Totally lost and confused


> Hi all,
> I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
> trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.
>
> I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now
hearing
> that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based on
the
> discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
> debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site, and
> I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am totally
lost
> and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm
even
> in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
> Tnx in advance,
> Chris
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Totally lost and confused

[Janina Sajka]

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Christy Schulte wrote:

> Ok, I haven't researched this in great detail, but my understanding is this.
>
> Debian, unlike a lot of other Linux distributions, can be added to and
> worked on by many different people, it's not just a certain closed group.
> Therefore, changes are constantly being made and it's constantly in testing
> mode. Therefore, there are two versions of debian. The "stable" version,
> currently 2.2 I believe, is the one that is only updated when there are
> major changes to put in. It has been tested and run by a lot of people and
> should run with minimal problems. The unstable version, which could be the
> "potato" one but not sure, is the under development one, like a beta. Any
> new submissions are put into that one first, so it's constantly being
> changed and updated.
>
> How exactly these updates are done and by whom I'm not sure, but we went
> with the stable version our our machines. You can get more info on this at
> www.debian.org. Also once it's installed, check out the apt-get and
> apt-cache commands, really cool.
>
> On another topic. Has anyone been successful using ddclient with debian? If
> so, would you mind writing me privately? I got the thing installed, but it's
> not updating the ip address an the docs aren't all that helpful. Then again
> it's been years since I've seriously worked with this stuff.
>
> Thanks.
> Christy
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Schulte" <cjschulte@home.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:00 PM
> Subject: Totally lost and confused
>
>
> > Hi all,
> > I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
> > trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.
> >
> > I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now
> hearing
> > that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based on
> the
> > discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
> > debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site, and
> > I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am totally
> lost
> > and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm
> even
> > in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
> > Tnx in advance,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Totally lost and confused

[Janina Sajka]

Oops, didn't mean to resend this back to the list. Sorry, folks.

Re: Totally lost and confused

[Kenny Hitt]

Potato is the stable version.

I had better luck using dhcpcd with home.com.  I never could get
dhcp-client to work.  Your host name is the one they give you when
you sign up for there service.  I left all other values at there
default.

          Kenny

On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:40:32AM -0400, Christy Schulte wrote:
> Ok, I haven't researched this in great detail, but my understanding is this.
> 
> Debian, unlike a lot of other Linux distributions, can be added to and
> worked on by many different people, it's not just a certain closed group.
> Therefore, changes are constantly being made and it's constantly in testing
> mode. Therefore, there are two versions of debian. The "stable" version,
> currently 2.2 I believe, is the one that is only updated when there are
> major changes to put in. It has been tested and run by a lot of people and
> should run with minimal problems. The unstable version, which could be the
> "potato" one but not sure, is the under development one, like a beta. Any
> new submissions are put into that one first, so it's constantly being
> changed and updated.
> 
> How exactly these updates are done and by whom I'm not sure, but we went
> with the stable version our our machines. You can get more info on this at
> www.debian.org. Also once it's installed, check out the apt-get and
> apt-cache commands, really cool.
> 
> On another topic. Has anyone been successful using ddclient with debian? If
> so, would you mind writing me privately? I got the thing installed, but it's
> not updating the ip address an the docs aren't all that helpful. Then again
> it's been years since I've seriously worked with this stuff.
> 
> Thanks.
> Christy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Schulte" <cjschulte@home.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:00 PM
> Subject: Totally lost and confused
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
> > trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.
> >
> > I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now
> hearing
> > that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based on
> the
> > discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
> > debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site, and
> > I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am totally
> lost
> > and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm
> even
> > in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
> > Tnx in advance,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: Totally lost and confused

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi, stable is the last stable version.  Currently, it is potato.
You probably don't need to actually go to there ftp sight.  Apt will do those
things for you.
How are you planning to install?  I'm still learning, but you can write
me off list, at kennyhitt@yahoo.com or call
(256) 533-0870.  I installed with boot floppies and then let
Debian finish from the internet.  If you plan to install from CD,
you should download the CD immages from the speakup sight and not from
the Debian sight.  As long as you make sure you install the kernel you
booted from, the rest is explained best in the manual.  The manual is on
line at 
www.debian.org/doc

Oopse, almost forgot, don't let the install program configure your keyboard.

          Kenny

On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:00:58PM -0400, Chris Schulte wrote:
> Hi all,
> I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
> trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.
> 
> I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now hearing
> that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based on the
> discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
> debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site, and
> I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am totally lost
> and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm even
> in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
> Tnx in advance,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

ddclient (was: Re: Totally lost and confused)

[Christy Schulte]

The linux machine has an IP address, no problem there.

What I'm trying to do is use dyndns.org to  assign a static name to my
dynamic IP address. You can update the ip via their website and it works
when i do that, but I can't get ddclient, which is suppoed to update the ip
automatically, to do it.

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenny Hitt" <kennyhitt@yahoo.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Totally lost and confused


> Potato is the stable version.
>
> I had better luck using dhcpcd with home.com.  I never could get
> dhcp-client to work.  Your host name is the one they give you when
> you sign up for there service.  I left all other values at there
> default.
>
>           Kenny
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 06:40:32AM -0400, Christy Schulte wrote:
> > Ok, I haven't researched this in great detail, but my understanding is
this.
> >
> > Debian, unlike a lot of other Linux distributions, can be added to and
> > worked on by many different people, it's not just a certain closed
group.
> > Therefore, changes are constantly being made and it's constantly in
testing
> > mode. Therefore, there are two versions of debian. The "stable" version,
> > currently 2.2 I believe, is the one that is only updated when there are
> > major changes to put in. It has been tested and run by a lot of people
and
> > should run with minimal problems. The unstable version, which could be
the
> > "potato" one but not sure, is the under development one, like a beta.
Any
> > new submissions are put into that one first, so it's constantly being
> > changed and updated.
> >
> > How exactly these updates are done and by whom I'm not sure, but we went
> > with the stable version our our machines. You can get more info on this
at
> > www.debian.org. Also once it's installed, check out the apt-get and
> > apt-cache commands, really cool.
> >
> > On another topic. Has anyone been successful using ddclient with debian?
If
> > so, would you mind writing me privately? I got the thing installed, but
it's
> > not updating the ip address an the docs aren't all that helpful. Then
again
> > it's been years since I've seriously worked with this stuff.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Christy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Schulte" <cjschulte@home.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:00 PM
> > Subject: Totally lost and confused
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > I sent this message to the newbie list, but seeing as how there's more
> > > trafic on this list I'll post it here as well.
> > >
> > > I've been waiting for a while to put linux on my system, and am now
> > hearing
> > > that as a new user, redhat is probably not the way to go.  Just based
on
> > the
> > > discussions I've seen, and some tips from a friend, I am thinking that
> > > debian is probably better for a new user.  So I am on the debian site,
and
> > > I'm seeing all of these things about potatoes and stable and am
totally
> > lost
> > > and cunfused as to which I should download, and for that matter if I'm
> > even
> > > in the right directory on the ftp site.  Please help?
> > > Tnx in advance,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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