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* Re: talking bios?
@  Gregory Nowak
   ` Dave Hunt
   ` Ralph W. Reid
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux., igueths

Interesting. How did this synth interface with the system, did it act as a video card, did it plug into the vga port of an existing video card?

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ralph W. Reid" <rreid@sunset.net
>To: igueths@comcast.net,"Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:49:08 -0800
>Subject: Re: talking bios?

>This project reminds me of the old Speaqualizer (possibly spelled
>wrong) speech synthesizer.  The Speaqualizer was all hardware, so it
>was capable of reading everything that showed up on a text screen,
>including all prompts and info which showed up before the OS was
>loaded.  This new project sounds promising--I hope it goes well.  The
>project seems to have some serious support, so I think I will keep
>up with it as time allows.  Thanks, and have a _great_ day!




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* Re: talking bios?
@  Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

You could always run DOS or a tiny GNU/Linux distro off of a floppy or 2, and you have an OS from which to start the application.

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net
>To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:34:19 -0500
>Subject: Re: talking bios?

>yeah thoug what about the initla setup? or if you have no os?



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* Re: talking bios?
@  igueths
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: igueths @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi there. I'd say it would be worth it, since a limted number of boards
already come with a Linuxbios. I forget exactly which manufactuers are
supported right now, the list can be found on the project website.

Original Message:
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From: randy turner rturner2@texasisp.com
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:18:30 -0600 (CST)
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: talking bios?



man that would bewonderfull!
i doubt we can get them to do it but i am all for
writing to some of them
randy


On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, igueths@comcast.net wrote:

> Hi all. I saw an article on Slashdot about a week or 2 ago about the
> Linuxbios project, which can be found at linuxbios.org. This poses some
> interesting ideas for the future...Theoretically, wouldn't it be possible
> to integrate Speakup into the kernel that is used on the Rom chip? Also, I
> think its a good idea to write to all the major motherboard manufacturers
> about the Linuxbios project. And also explain how including a talking bios
> in future motherboards would benifit the blind/visually impaired
community.
> And also explain how current bioses are inaccessible to visually impaired
> people. What iare everyone's thoughts on this?
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* RE: talking bios?
@  Gregory Nowak
   ` Sean McMahon
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From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Not a bad idea. However, since different companies have different BIOS access methods, the program running in the OS would need some sort of an API probably so that it would provide the same standard interface, while being able to configure different bioses.

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca
>To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:09:00 -0700
>Subject: RE: talking bios?

>Wouldn't an easier solution be a program that could read from, and write
>to, the bios, that could be accessed from an already booted computer
>regardless of the OS?

>In my convoluted way of thinking, it wouldn't then matter which means of
>accessibility you are using, you could make changes to the bios and have
>them take effect on reboot.

>Take effect on reboot! HHHMMM!!! What a concept, isn't that when changes
>to the bios currently take effect?

>This approach then would not need manufacturers having to worry about
>making something to work for all.

>OH Yeah, maybe we are barking up the wrong tree completely on this one.
>Earlier this year, I read an article that was talking about the bios as
>we currently know love is going to be replaced by some new system that
>will be accessible from tools within the OS. This is because of the
>16-bit restriction that currently exists in the bios, or so the article
>was saying. If I have some time latter on today, I'll try to find the
>article and post it here as another follow-up to this thread.

>Steve Dawes
>Phone: (403) 268-5527
>Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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* Re: talking bios?
@  Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Ervin at Home, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.,
	Erik Heil

Yeah, you're not alone there (smile).

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Glenn Ervin at Home" <GlennErvin@cableone.net
>To: "Erik Heil" <eheil@patmedia.net>,"Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:18:34 -0600
>Subject: Re: talking bios?

>I think it would be great!
>It frustrates me to wait for someone to come along to read the BIOS for me.
>Glenn.




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* RE: talking bios?
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Alex Snow
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From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Wouldn't an easier solution be a program that could read from, and write
to, the bios, that could be accessed from an already booted computer
regardless of the OS? 

In my convoluted way of thinking, it wouldn't then matter which means of
accessibility you are using, you could make changes to the bios and have
them take effect on reboot. 

Take effect on reboot! HHHMMM!!! What a concept, isn't that when changes
to the bios currently take effect? 

This approach then would not need manufacturers having to worry about
making something to work for all. 

OH Yeah, maybe we are barking up the wrong tree completely on this one.
Earlier this year, I read an article that was talking about the bios as
we currently know love is going to be replaced by some new system that
will be accessible from tools within the OS. This is because of the
16-bit restriction that currently exists in the bios, or so the article
was saying. If I have some time latter on today, I'll try to find the
article and post it here as another follow-up to this thread.

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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* RE: talking bios?
@  igueths
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From: igueths @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Well in that case, looks like they would be able to be included.

Original Message:
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From: Jared jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:29:55 -0500
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: talking bios?


The bios are going to grow huge in the next little while. I know bios with
over 100 megs are being worked on that will have diognostic stuff built into
them which can connect to the internet, I doubt speakup and braille tty will
push the space limit.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:05 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; igueths@comcast.net
Subject: Re: talking bios?


One thing you'd need to keep in mind here is the limited space in the ROM.

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: David Csercsics <aarg@shaw.ca
>To: igueths@comcast.net, "Speakup is a screen review system for
Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:13:55 -0800
>Subject: Re: talking bios?

>Yep this should be definitely done that is for sure! Talking BIOS would
rock. Maybe we should take it a step further and get a static BRLTTY as part
of the BIOS for deaf users who cannot use speech.


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* Re: talking bios?
@  Gregory Nowak
   ` Jared
   ` Alex Snow
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux., igueths

One thing you'd need to keep in mind here is the limited space in the ROM.

Greg



> ----- Original Message -----
>From: David Csercsics <aarg@shaw.ca
>To: igueths@comcast.net, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."<speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:13:55 -0800
>Subject: Re: talking bios?

>Yep this should be definitely done that is for sure! Talking BIOS would rock. Maybe we should take it a step further and get a static BRLTTY as part of the BIOS for deaf users who cannot use speech.


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* talking bios?
@  igueths
   ` Erik Heil
                   ` (4 more replies)
  0 siblings, 5 replies; 31+ messages in thread
From: igueths @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi all. I saw an article on Slashdot about a week or 2 ago about the
Linuxbios project, which can be found at linuxbios.org. This poses some
interesting ideas for the future...Theoretically, wouldn't it be possible
to integrate Speakup into the kernel that is used on the Rom chip? Also, I
think its a good idea to write to all the major motherboard manufacturers
about the Linuxbios project. And also explain how including a talking bios
in future motherboards would benifit the blind/visually impaired community.
And also explain how current bioses are inaccessible to visually impaired
people. What iare everyone's thoughts on this? 

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