* Speakup and centOS @ Tim Culhane ` Trevor Astrope 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Tim Culhane @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Does Speakup work with the centOS linux distribution. I believe that centOS is very similar to RedHat Enterprise Linux, so I'm interested in exploring the possibility of using this distribution. I read in the archive to this list that somebody patched the centOS kernel with Speakup a while back, but it wasn't an easy job. Has anything changed since then? Any help appreciated, Tim ------------------------- Tim Culhane, Critical Path Ireland, 42-47 Lower Mount Street, Dublin 2. Direct line: 353-1-2415107 phone: 353-1-2415000 Tim.culhane@criticalpath.net http://www.criticalpath.net Critical Path a global leader in digital communications ------------------------ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and centOS Speakup and centOS Tim Culhane @ ` Trevor Astrope ` Georgina Joyce 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Trevor Astrope @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I've patched the rhel 3 and rhel 5 kernels before and it definitely isn't an easy job, because the rhel kernel is a hybrid kernel with backported features and bug fixes. It basically requires patching parts of the patch by hand. On rhel 5 the problem is compounded by the fact that speakup no longer supports kernels prior to 2.6.24, as the kobject implementation changed in 2.6.24. I did manage to get speakup to compile by trying to backport the new kobject implementation, similar to how it was done for the infiniband driver, but the speakup_dectlk driver is not able to detect the synth. I suspect the result would be the same with other drivers. I haven't tried software speech as I'm having trouble getting sound to work and I haven't had any time lately to work on it. Since my time is limited, I think I will install fc12 and then try my luck when rhel 6 is out, hopefully this spring. I would recommend that the speakup developers remove the patches for the kernels before 2.6.24, as speakup will not compile against these kernels with the older kobject implementation. Or perhaps there is an older version of speakup in git that uses the older kobject implementation? Hth, Trevor On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Tim Culhane wrote: > Hi, > > Does Speakup work with the centOS linux distribution. I believe that centOS > is very similar to RedHat Enterprise Linux, so I'm interested in exploring > the possibility of using this distribution. > > I read in the archive to this list that somebody patched the centOS kernel > with Speakup a while back, but it wasn't an easy job. > > Has anything changed since then? > > Any help appreciated, > > Tim > > > ------------------------- > Tim Culhane, > Critical Path Ireland, > 42-47 Lower Mount Street, > Dublin 2. > Direct line: 353-1-2415107 > phone: 353-1-2415000 > > Tim.culhane@criticalpath.net > http://www.criticalpath.net > > Critical Path > a global leader in digital communications > ------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and centOS ` Trevor Astrope @ ` Georgina Joyce ` Trevor Astrope 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi I can't remember the version boundaries (2.6.19 - 2.6.25?) but the speakup version is 2 from the cvs repos. I'm not sure where they were located. You will not get git version 3 working on those older kernel versions. On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 12:15 -0500, Trevor Astrope wrote: > I've patched the rhel 3 and rhel 5 kernels before and it definitely isn't > an easy job, because the rhel kernel is a hybrid kernel with backported > features and bug fixes. It basically requires patching parts of the patch > by hand. > > On rhel 5 the problem is compounded by the fact that speakup no longer > supports kernels prior to 2.6.24, as the kobject implementation changed in > 2.6.24. I did manage to get speakup to compile by trying to backport the > new kobject implementation, similar to how it was done for the infiniband > driver, but the speakup_dectlk driver is not able to detect the synth. I > suspect the result would be the same with other drivers. I haven't tried > software speech as I'm having trouble getting sound to work and I haven't > had any time lately to work on it. Since my time is limited, I think I > will install fc12 and then try my luck when rhel 6 is out, hopefully this > spring. > > I would recommend that the speakup developers remove the patches for the > kernels before 2.6.24, as speakup will not compile against these kernels > with the older kobject implementation. Or perhaps there is an older > version of speakup in git that uses the older kobject implementation? > > Hth, > > Trevor > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Tim Culhane wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Does Speakup work with the centOS linux distribution. I believe that centOS > > is very similar to RedHat Enterprise Linux, so I'm interested in exploring > > the possibility of using this distribution. > > > > I read in the archive to this list that somebody patched the centOS kernel > > with Speakup a while back, but it wasn't an easy job. > > > > Has anything changed since then? > > > > Any help appreciated, > > > > Tim > > > > > > ------------------------- > > Tim Culhane, > > Critical Path Ireland, > > 42-47 Lower Mount Street, > > Dublin 2. > > Direct line: 353-1-2415107 > > phone: 353-1-2415000 > > > > Tim.culhane@criticalpath.net > > http://www.criticalpath.net > > > > Critical Path > > a global leader in digital communications > > ------------------------ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Gena four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software: * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. Richard Matthew Stallman ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Speakup and centOS ` Georgina Joyce @ ` Trevor Astrope 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Trevor Astrope @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I could be wrong, but my understanding is speakup 2 only supports kernels before 2.6.18. The patches do exist in the speakup 3.0 release for 2.6.18 and up, but the current speakup release only supports kernels from 2.6.24 and up, although I haven't actually tested this. My experience is that your best results will be with the latest kernel supported by speakup or a kernel from one of the distros the developers test against. I think that would be debian. On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Georgina Joyce wrote: > Hi > > I can't remember the version boundaries (2.6.19 - 2.6.25?) but the > speakup version is 2 from the cvs repos. I'm not sure where they were > located. > > You will not get git version 3 working on those older kernel versions. > > > On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 12:15 -0500, Trevor Astrope wrote: >> I've patched the rhel 3 and rhel 5 kernels before and it definitely isn't >> an easy job, because the rhel kernel is a hybrid kernel with backported >> features and bug fixes. It basically requires patching parts of the patch >> by hand. >> >> On rhel 5 the problem is compounded by the fact that speakup no longer >> supports kernels prior to 2.6.24, as the kobject implementation changed in >> 2.6.24. I did manage to get speakup to compile by trying to backport the >> new kobject implementation, similar to how it was done for the infiniband >> driver, but the speakup_dectlk driver is not able to detect the synth. I >> suspect the result would be the same with other drivers. I haven't tried >> software speech as I'm having trouble getting sound to work and I haven't >> had any time lately to work on it. Since my time is limited, I think I >> will install fc12 and then try my luck when rhel 6 is out, hopefully this >> spring. >> >> I would recommend that the speakup developers remove the patches for the >> kernels before 2.6.24, as speakup will not compile against these kernels >> with the older kobject implementation. Or perhaps there is an older >> version of speakup in git that uses the older kobject implementation? >> >> Hth, >> >> Trevor >> >> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Tim Culhane wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does Speakup work with the centOS linux distribution. I believe that centOS >>> is very similar to RedHat Enterprise Linux, so I'm interested in exploring >>> the possibility of using this distribution. >>> >>> I read in the archive to this list that somebody patched the centOS kernel >>> with Speakup a while back, but it wasn't an easy job. >>> >>> Has anything changed since then? >>> >>> Any help appreciated, >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> Tim Culhane, >>> Critical Path Ireland, >>> 42-47 Lower Mount Street, >>> Dublin 2. >>> Direct line: 353-1-2415107 >>> phone: 353-1-2415000 >>> >>> Tim.culhane@criticalpath.net >>> http://www.criticalpath.net >>> >>> Critical Path >>> a global leader in digital communications >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- > Gena > > > four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software: > > * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). > * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. > * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor > (freedom 2). > * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements > to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access > to the source code is a precondition for this. > > Richard Matthew Stallman > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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