disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[David Sexton]

/sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
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Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Chris Brannon]

David Sexton wrote:
> /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!

Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see under
/sys/module/speakup/parameters?
What do you see under /sys/module/speakup/parameters?

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[David Sexton]

attrib_bleep  caps_stop    delimiters  jiffy_delta   pitch       punct         say_control   synth_direct  vol
bell_pos      characters   direct      key_echo      punc_all    quiet         say_word_ctl  tone
bleeps        chartab      ex_num      keymap        punc_level  rate          silent        trigger_time
bleep_time    cursor_time  freq        lang          punc_most   reading_punc  spell_delay   version
caps_start    delay_time   full_time   no_interrupt  punc_some   repeats       synth         voice
* Chris Brannon <cmbrannon@cox.net> [090707 11:42]:
> David Sexton wrote:
> > /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
> 
> Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see under
> /sys/module/speakup/parameters?
> What do you see under /sys/module/speakup/parameters?
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Hermann]

Am 07.07.2009 20:39, schrieb Chris Brannon:
> David Sexton wrote:
>> /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
>
> Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see under
> /sys/module/speakup/parameters?

I guess nothing, because it seems he has installed the latest version, 
which is located in the folder he mentioned above.
To dave: Does it happen while you are working, or does it start up any 
longer?
Did you specify the "swspeak" option, needed for GRML?
Did you change anything during the last time? Since when does this ocur?
In general: You must be more specific; simply telling "xyz does not 
work, help!" is not enough.
Hermann

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Chris Brannon]

David Sexton wrote:
> attrib_bleep  caps_stop    delimiters  jiffy_delta   pitch       punct       
>   say_control   synth_direct  vol
...

It appears that you have the wrong version of Speakup installed.
If you view /sys/module/speakup/parameters/version,
you will see a version number less than 3.1.0.

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[David Sexton]

it's Speakup version 3.0.3, but it used to work fine with speakupconf /load
I did just uninstall gnome so maybe I removed something important, but speakup still starts up just fine.
Do I need to recompile the kernel to get the latest speakup working?
David
* Chris Brannon <cmbrannon@cox.net> [090707 12:00]:
> David Sexton wrote:
> > attrib_bleep  caps_stop    delimiters  jiffy_delta   pitch       punct       
> >   say_control   synth_direct  vol
> ...
> 
> It appears that you have the wrong version of Speakup installed.
> If you view /sys/module/speakup/parameters/version,
> you will see a version number less than 3.1.0.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Hermann]

Am 07.07.2009 21:02, schrieb David Sexton:
> it's Speakup version 3.0.3, but it used to work fine with speakupconf /load

This version doesn't live under /sys/accessibility.
This is the case for version 3.1.

> I did just uninstall gnome so maybe I removed something important, but speakup still starts up just fine.

What's your problem then?

> Do I need to recompile the kernel to get the latest speakup working?

No. You can get the latest version via GIT or from the Speakup homepage.
After download enter the Speakup directory, when you loaded by Git, or 
unzip the package and then enter directory.
You will find a file called INSTALLATION which tells you what to do when 
installing Speakup without recompiling the kernel.
Hermann

RE: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[al Sten-Clanton]

I'm using GRML 2009.05 on my hard drive at the moment.  I can't even find on
it the directory /sys/accessibility/speakup, nor even /sys/accessibility.
Indeed, I thought that change in speakup directories came after the arrival
of the latest GRML.  Am I missing something?  Thanks!

Al  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Hermann
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:50 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

Am 07.07.2009 20:39, schrieb Chris Brannon:
> David Sexton wrote:
>> /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
>
> Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see 
> under /sys/module/speakup/parameters?

I guess nothing, because it seems he has installed the latest version, which
is located in the folder he mentioned above.
To dave: Does it happen while you are working, or does it start up any
longer?
Did you specify the "swspeak" option, needed for GRML?
Did you change anything during the last time? Since when does this ocur?
In general: You must be more specific; simply telling "xyz does not work,
help!" is not enough.
Hermann
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[David Sexton]

What happened is the newer speakup tools were installed somehow maybe with aptitude, but not the newer speakup modules.
So, I installed the modules from git and all works happily now.
David
* al Sten-Clanton <Albert.E.Sten_Clanton@verizon.net> [090707 16:36]:
> I'm using GRML 2009.05 on my hard drive at the moment.  I can't even find on
> it the directory /sys/accessibility/speakup, nor even /sys/accessibility.
> Indeed, I thought that change in speakup directories came after the arrival
> of the latest GRML.  Am I missing something?  Thanks!
> 
> Al  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Hermann
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup
> 
> Am 07.07.2009 20:39, schrieb Chris Brannon:
> > David Sexton wrote:
> >> /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
> >
> > Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see 
> > under /sys/module/speakup/parameters?
> 
> I guess nothing, because it seems he has installed the latest version, which
> is located in the folder he mentioned above.
> To dave: Does it happen while you are working, or does it start up any
> longer?
> Did you specify the "swspeak" option, needed for GRML?
> Did you change anything during the last time? Since when does this ocur?
> In general: You must be more specific; simply telling "xyz does not work,
> help!" is not enough.
> Hermann
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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RE: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Doug Smith]

That's interesting.  I have the latest speakup from a git clone of a few
days ago and it has the /sys/accessibility/speakup directory.  This is
on an install on ubuntu jaunty, and there should be nothing unusual
about the speakup I used.  

I wanted to try the installation of speakup on here so that I would have
both speakup and orca.  I am not at a command line terminal right now,
but I can say that my speakup works perfectly.  I am not sure how grml
configures it, although there should be some somewhere like that.  

Do a locate speakup | grep accessibility and see what you get back. 



Hope this helps. 



Doug Smith.



On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 19:07 -0400, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> I'm using GRML 2009.05 on my hard drive at the moment.  I can't even find on
> it the directory /sys/accessibility/speakup, nor even /sys/accessibility.
> Indeed, I thought that change in speakup directories came after the arrival
> of the latest GRML.  Am I missing something?  Thanks!
> 
> Al  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Hermann
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:50 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup
> 
> Am 07.07.2009 20:39, schrieb Chris Brannon:
> > David Sexton wrote:
> >> /sys/accessibility/speakup randomly does not exist anymore... help!
> >
> > Perhaps you have the wrong set of modules loaded?  What do you see 
> > under /sys/module/speakup/parameters?
> 
> I guess nothing, because it seems he has installed the latest version, which
> is located in the folder he mentioned above.
> To dave: Does it happen while you are working, or does it start up any
> longer?
> Did you specify the "swspeak" option, needed for GRML?
> Did you change anything during the last time? Since when does this ocur?
> In general: You must be more specific; simply telling "xyz does not work,
> help!" is not enough.
> Hermann
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Samuel Thibault]

David Sexton, le Tue 07 Jul 2009 16:38:35 -0700, a écrit :
> What happened is the newer speakup tools were installed somehow maybe
> with aptitude, but not the newer speakup modules.

Yes, that's not automatic, you need to run

m-a a-i speakup

to install the newer modules.

Samuel

Re: disappearing /sys/accessibility/speakup

[Hermann]

On 08.07.2009 at 01:07:11 "al Sten-Clanton" <Albert.E.Sten_Clanton@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm using GRML 2009.05 on my hard drive at the moment.  I can't even find on
> it the directory /sys/accessibility/speakup, nor even /sys/accessibility.
> Indeed, I thought that change in speakup directories came after the arrival
> of the latest GRML.  Am I missing something?  Thanks!
>
Yes. With the latest GRML, there came Speakup 3.03, and it is originally
compiled with the kernel. This is the reason why it situates different
then the later installed 3.1.
When using the latest version with GIT, it is possible to install
Speakup even if it has not been compiled with the kernel (for example in
Ubuntu).
But you will see a different structure.
Hermann