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* GRML and apollo synth
@  Michael Whapples
   ` al Sten-Clanton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hello,
I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the cheat
codes file it says that for speakup synths use speakup_synth=synthname,
so I tried booting with:
grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup 3.0.x
uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo driver
is there because when I do:
modprobe speakup_apollo
speakup starts working.

Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have
done to make the kernel options for speakup work when they built speakup
as modules (eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?

Michael Whapples


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* RE: GRML and apollo synth
   GRML and apollo synth Michael Whapples
@  ` al Sten-Clanton
     ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: al Sten-Clanton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Hello!

I've had similar trouble with the TripleTalk LT.  In a message earlier this
week, Janina Sajka wrote of having similar trouble with it, but that the
DoubleTalk works.  I wrote to mika@grml.org a while ago about this, but he
may not have seen the message.  (He doubtless gets a great lot of e-mail.)

Al 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:34 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: GRML and apollo synth

Hello,
I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the cheat
codes file it says that for speakup synths use speakup_synth=synthname, so I
tried booting with:
grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup 3.0.x
uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo driver is
there because when I do:
modprobe speakup_apollo
speakup starts working.

Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have done to
make the kernel options for speakup work when they built speakup as modules
(eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?

Michael Whapples

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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* RE: GRML and apollo synth
   ` al Sten-Clanton
@    ` Michael Whapples
       ` al Sten-Clanton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello Al,
I looked back at your message, do you mean that the TripleTalk LT
doesn't start regardless of the boot parameters or do you mean it
doesn't work even when you do a modprobe to load the module? For me the
modprobe works but the boot options don't.

I also have reported my problems through the bug contact form on the
GRML website but haven't heard anything. Like you I expect plenty of
messages are sent so Mika is probably very busy. That's why I asked here
if there might be something which should be done to ensure the boot
options work which I could check so that I could report the problem to
Mika and suggest a fix.

Michael Whapples
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 17:34 -0500, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I've had similar trouble with the TripleTalk LT.  In a message earlier this
> week, Janina Sajka wrote of having similar trouble with it, but that the
> DoubleTalk works.  I wrote to mika@grml.org a while ago about this, but he
> may not have seen the message.  (He doubtless gets a great lot of e-mail.)
> 
> Al 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:34 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: GRML and apollo synth
> 
> Hello,
> I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the cheat
> codes file it says that for speakup synths use speakup_synth=synthname, so I
> tried booting with:
> grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
> Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup 3.0.x
> uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
> grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
> Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo driver is
> there because when I do:
> modprobe speakup_apollo
> speakup starts working.
> 
> Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have done to
> make the kernel options for speakup work when they built speakup as modules
> (eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?
> 
> Michael Whapples
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 


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* RE: GRML and apollo synth
     ` Michael Whapples
@      ` al Sten-Clanton
         ` Michael Whapples
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: al Sten-Clanton @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Hi, Michael!

Sorry I wasn't clear.  Modprobe works fine for me.  Indeed, it was nice to
switch between the TripleTalk LT and the DECTalk Express:  I don't recall
that 
GRML ever before allowed me to unload one synth for another.

I gave my GRML CD to a guy I was helping get his toes wet with Linux the
other day.  When I buy some new CD's and make another one, then I should
look for my DoubleTalk LT to see if that works on boot-up.

Al  

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:15 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: GRML and apollo synth

Hello Al,
I looked back at your message, do you mean that the TripleTalk LT doesn't
start regardless of the boot parameters or do you mean it doesn't work even
when you do a modprobe to load the module? For me the modprobe works but the
boot options don't.

I also have reported my problems through the bug contact form on the GRML
website but haven't heard anything. Like you I expect plenty of messages are
sent so Mika is probably very busy. That's why I asked here if there might
be something which should be done to ensure the boot options work which I
could check so that I could report the problem to Mika and suggest a fix.

Michael Whapples
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 17:34 -0500, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I've had similar trouble with the TripleTalk LT.  In a message earlier 
> this week, Janina Sajka wrote of having similar trouble with it, but 
> that the DoubleTalk works.  I wrote to mika@grml.org a while ago about 
> this, but he may not have seen the message.  (He doubtless gets a 
> great lot of e-mail.)
> 
> Al
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:34 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: GRML and apollo synth
> 
> Hello,
> I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the 
> cheat codes file it says that for speakup synths use 
> speakup_synth=synthname, so I tried booting with:
> grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
> Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup 
> 3.0.x uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
> grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
> Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo 
> driver is there because when I do:
> modprobe speakup_apollo
> speakup starts working.
> 
> Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have 
> done to make the kernel options for speakup work when they built 
> speakup as modules (eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?
> 
> Michael Whapples
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: GRML and apollo synth
       ` al Sten-Clanton
@        ` Michael Whapples
           ` Steve Holmes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Michael Whapples @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hello,
Good it seems that it is the same problem as it is for me. I got a response 
from Mika saying it has now been entered into the GRML bug tracking system 
http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue610

Is this problem specific to GRML or is it generally a problem for speakup as 
modules? IE. Is GRML really the correct place for this to be corrected?

Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "al Sten-Clanton" <Albert.E.Sten_Clanton@verizon.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:11 AM
Subject: RE: GRML and apollo synth


> Hi, Michael!
>
> Sorry I wasn't clear.  Modprobe works fine for me.  Indeed, it was nice to
> switch between the TripleTalk LT and the DECTalk Express:  I don't recall
> that
> GRML ever before allowed me to unload one synth for another.
>
> I gave my GRML CD to a guy I was helping get his toes wet with Linux the
> other day.  When I buy some new CD's and make another one, then I should
> look for my DoubleTalk LT to see if that works on boot-up.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:15 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: RE: GRML and apollo synth
>
> Hello Al,
> I looked back at your message, do you mean that the TripleTalk LT doesn't
> start regardless of the boot parameters or do you mean it doesn't work 
> even
> when you do a modprobe to load the module? For me the modprobe works but 
> the
> boot options don't.
>
> I also have reported my problems through the bug contact form on the GRML
> website but haven't heard anything. Like you I expect plenty of messages 
> are
> sent so Mika is probably very busy. That's why I asked here if there might
> be something which should be done to ensure the boot options work which I
> could check so that I could report the problem to Mika and suggest a fix.
>
> Michael Whapples
> On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 17:34 -0500, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I've had similar trouble with the TripleTalk LT.  In a message earlier
>> this week, Janina Sajka wrote of having similar trouble with it, but
>> that the DoubleTalk works.  I wrote to mika@grml.org a while ago about
>> this, but he may not have seen the message.  (He doubtless gets a
>> great lot of e-mail.)
>>
>> Al
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:34 AM
>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> Subject: GRML and apollo synth
>>
>> Hello,
>> I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the
>> cheat codes file it says that for speakup synths use
>> speakup_synth=synthname, so I tried booting with:
>> grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
>> Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup
>> 3.0.x uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
>> grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
>> Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo
>> driver is there because when I do:
>> modprobe speakup_apollo
>> speakup starts working.
>>
>> Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have
>> done to make the kernel options for speakup work when they built
>> speakup as modules (eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> 


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* Re: GRML and apollo synth
         ` Michael Whapples
@          ` Steve Holmes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Steve Holmes @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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Well, I took a look at grml for the first time over this weekend and I
had the same experience with my Speakout (module name spkout).  It
never came up talking after boot but I tried 'modprove speakup_spkout'
and it began talking.  Maybe this but applies to all serial synths?

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 12:13:50PM -0000, Michael Whapples wrote:
> Hello,
> Good it seems that it is the same problem as it is for me. I got a 
> response from Mika saying it has now been entered into the GRML bug 
> tracking system http://bts.grml.org/grml/issue610
>
> Is this problem specific to GRML or is it generally a problem for speakup 
> as modules? IE. Is GRML really the correct place for this to be 
> corrected?
>
> Michael Whapples
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "al Sten-Clanton" 
> <Albert.E.Sten_Clanton@verizon.net>
> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'"  
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:11 AM
> Subject: RE: GRML and apollo synth
>
>
>> Hi, Michael!
>>
>> Sorry I wasn't clear.  Modprobe works fine for me.  Indeed, it was nice to
>> switch between the TripleTalk LT and the DECTalk Express:  I don't recall
>> that
>> GRML ever before allowed me to unload one synth for another.
>>
>> I gave my GRML CD to a guy I was helping get his toes wet with Linux the
>> other day.  When I buy some new CD's and make another one, then I should
>> look for my DoubleTalk LT to see if that works on boot-up.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca  
>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 6:15 PM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: RE: GRML and apollo synth
>>
>> Hello Al,
>> I looked back at your message, do you mean that the TripleTalk LT doesn't
>> start regardless of the boot parameters or do you mean it doesn't work  
>> even
>> when you do a modprobe to load the module? For me the modprobe works 
>> but the
>> boot options don't.
>>
>> I also have reported my problems through the bug contact form on the GRML
>> website but haven't heard anything. Like you I expect plenty of 
>> messages are
>> sent so Mika is probably very busy. That's why I asked here if there might
>> be something which should be done to ensure the boot options work which I
>> could check so that I could report the problem to Mika and suggest a fix.
>>
>> Michael Whapples
>> On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 17:34 -0500, al Sten-Clanton wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I've had similar trouble with the TripleTalk LT.  In a message earlier
>>> this week, Janina Sajka wrote of having similar trouble with it, but
>>> that the DoubleTalk works.  I wrote to mika@grml.org a while ago about
>>> this, but he may not have seen the message.  (He doubtless gets a
>>> great lot of e-mail.)
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>>> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:34 AM
>>> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> Subject: GRML and apollo synth
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I can't get GRML to use my apollo synth automatically. Reading the
>>> cheat codes file it says that for speakup synths use
>>> speakup_synth=synthname, so I tried booting with:
>>> grml brltty=al speakup_synth=apollo
>>> Brltty started fine but speakup didn't start. Knowing that speakup
>>> 3.0.x uses the form speakup.synth=synthname I then tried using that form:
>>> grml brltty=al speakup.synth=apollo
>>> Again brltty started fine but no speakup. I know that the apollo
>>> driver is there because when I do:
>>> modprobe speakup_apollo
>>> speakup starts working.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had this trouble? Is there anything GRML should have
>>> done to make the kernel options for speakup work when they built
>>> speakup as modules (eg.add the speakup modules to the initrd)?
>>>
>>> Michael Whapples
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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