is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hi all.

I finally managed to get the slackware mplayer package working on my
system. Given the fact that mplayer can play windows media streams,
there is a local radio station which streams in windows
media. However, they stream in a window in IE, and don't actually open
windows media player. The URL that will take you to their stream is

http://www.windy100.com/listen.php/

I've been trying to find a way to play this in the console under
GNU/Linux, so that I would have one less thing that I need the other
OS for, but so far no luck. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

Greg


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Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 31 May 2004, Gregory Nowak wrote:

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> Hi all.
> 
> I finally managed to get the slackware mplayer package working on my
> system. Given the fact that mplayer can play windows media streams,
> there is a local radio station which streams in windows
> media. However, they stream in a window in IE, and don't actually open
> windows media player. The URL that will take you to their stream is
> 
> http://www.windy100.com/listen.php/
> 
> I've been trying to find a way to play this in the console under
> GNU/Linux, so that I would have one less thing that I need the other
> OS for, but so far no luck. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.

It'll take somework, but if you use Links the chain, you might be able to 
figure out what kind of stream it is and set up a file assosciation - why 
they don't use mime types and mailcap is beyond me, but ...

Anyway, I reckon that's your best bet, since it's a javascript link, the 
cat won't touch it.

HTH

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Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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Thanks. I've tried links the chain, and the javascript does
work. However, instead of getting a stream that I can pass to mplayer,
I ultimately end up with a message telling me that they detected that
I don't have the recommended version of windows media player, and that
I should download that.

Greg


On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 11:00:34PM +0100, Toby Fisher wrote:
> It'll take somework, but if you use Links the chain, you might be able to 
> figure out what kind of stream it is and set up a file assosciation - why 
> they don't use mime types and mailcap is beyond me, but ...
> 
> Anyway, I reckon that's your best bet, since it's a javascript link, the 
> cat won't touch it.
> 
> HTH
> 
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Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[David Csercsics]

>It'll take somework, but if you use Links the chain, you might be able to 
>figure out what kind of stream it is and set up a file assosciation - why 
>they don't use mime types and mailcap is beyond me, but ...

Nope that won't work. I tried it with the talking mozilla which is
perfectly capable at reading javascript pages. No attempt at all was
made to play the stream. So the only way you'll get this to work is
if you download the javascript source and try to figure out what URL
it's actually streaming the data from. Too many websites ar using
these stupid embedded players to stream audio! It's getting to be
more annoying all the time. I don't know  why they don't have enough
intelligence to just give you a link directly to the stream!

Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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I've just tried something else. I opened the stream in the other OS,
and ran tcpdump on my server to see what was happening in terms of the
ip address and ports. The interesting thing is that the stream
apparently comes from 66.250.188.214 on tcp port 80, with the
destination address being the windows machine playing the stream with
a destination port of 1079. There is also traffic going from my
windows machine on port 80, to 66.250.188.214 port 1079. 

Going to 66.250.188.214 port 1079, doesn't give me anything, it looks
like they have it firewalled off. However, pointing links/lynx to
http://66.250.188.214 gives me the following message: video/x-ms-asf
D)ownload, or C)ancel.

Naturally, I downloaded the file, however mplayer doesn't like the
file.

mplayer: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available
(required by mplayer)
MPlayer 1.0pre4-3.3.3 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team

CPU: Intel Pentium III Katmai/Pentium III Xeon Tanner 601.6 MHz
(Family: 6, Stepping: 3)
Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with
- --disable-runtime-cpudetection.
Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
Reading config file /home/greg/.mplayer/config
Reading /home/greg/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open
'/home/greg/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 66 audio & 176 video codecs
font: can't open file: /home/greg/.mplayer/font/font.desc
Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206
chars)
Using usleep() timing
Can't open input config file /home/greg/.mplayer/input.conf: No such
file or directory
Can't open input config file /etc/mplayer/input.conf: No such file or
directory
Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config

Playing test.media.
Cache fill:  0.01% (46 bytes)

Exiting... (End of file)

I named the file test.media, since in the save box in lynx, the file
name is the ip address, so it looks like the file extention wouldn't
matter. The file is actually a text file, and reads:

[Reference]
Ref1=http://192.168.100.122:80/

As you can see, the URL in that file is an internal class C IP
address. So the idea is that IE downloads the file, which in turn
somehow directs it to play the stream from the internal address. I
can't think of a way to duplicate this, since there would be no
difference as far as I can see between having the browser pass the
file to mplayer, and me passing the already saved file to mplayer from
the shell.

I couldn't agree with you more, these ever increasing embedded players
are very annoying.

Greg


On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 03:12:47PM -0700, David Csercsics wrote:
> Nope that won't work. I tried it with the talking mozilla which is
> perfectly capable at reading javascript pages. No attempt at all was
> made to play the stream. So the only way you'll get this to work is
> if you download the javascript source and try to figure out what URL
> it's actually streaming the data from. Too many websites ar using
> these stupid embedded players to stream audio! It's getting to be
> more annoying all the time. I don't know  why they don't have enough
> intelligence to just give you a link directly to the stream!
> 
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Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[David Csercsics]

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>I've just tried something else. I opened the stream in the other OS,
>and ran tcpdump on my server to see what was happening in terms of the
>ip address and ports. The interesting thing is that the stream
>apparently comes from 66.250.188.214 on tcp port 80, with the
>destination address being the windows machine playing the stream with
>a destination port of 1079. There is also traffic going from my
>windows machine on port 80, to 66.250.188.214 port 1079. 
>
>Going to 66.250.188.214 port 1079, doesn't give me anything, it looks
>like they have it firewalled off. However, pointing links/lynx to
>http://66.250.188.214 gives me the following message: video/x-ms-asf
>D)ownload, or C)ancel.
>
>Naturally, I downloaded the file, however mplayer doesn't like the
>file.
>
>mplayer: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: no version information available
>(required by mplayer)
>MPlayer 1.0pre4-3.3.3 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
>
>CPU: Intel Pentium III Katmai/Pentium III Xeon Tanner 601.6 MHz
>(Family: 6, Stepping: 3)
>Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
>CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
>Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
>To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with
>- --disable-runtime-cpudetection.
>Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
>Reading config file /home/greg/.mplayer/config
>Reading /home/greg/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open
>'/home/greg/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
>Reading /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf: 66 audio & 176 video codecs
>font: can't open file: /home/greg/.mplayer/font/font.desc
>Font /usr/share/mplayer/font/font.desc loaded successfully! (206
>chars)
>Using usleep() timing
>Can't open input config file /home/greg/.mplayer/input.conf: No such
>file or directory
>Can't open input config file /etc/mplayer/input.conf: No such file or
>directory
>Falling back on default (hardcoded) input config
>
>Playing test.media.
>Cache fill:  0.01% (46 bytes)
>
>Exiting... (End of file)
>
>I named the file test.media, since in the save box in lynx, the file
>name is the ip address, so it looks like the file extention wouldn't
>matter. The file is actually a text file, and reads:
>
>[Reference]
>Ref1=http://192.168.100.122:80/
>
>As you can see, the URL in that file is an internal class C IP
>address. So the idea is that IE downloads the file, which in turn
>somehow directs it to play the stream from the internal address. I
>can't think of a way to duplicate this, since there would be no
>difference as far as I can see between having the browser pass the
>file to mplayer, and me passing the already saved file to mplayer from
>the shell.
>
>I couldn't agree with you more, these ever increasing embedded players
>are very annoying.

So they're  calling some windows-specific code to do the streaming
form that internal IP I suspect that serverside scripts are  handling
some of that stuff. If I knew javascript I would take a peek at the
javascript source to see  if it sheds any light on this weird method
for streaming audio but I don't understand a word of that language.

Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Janina Sajka]

Run alsamixer and turn on the volume for your headphones.

Gregory Nowak writes:
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> Hi all.
> 
> I finally managed to get the slackware mplayer package working on my
> system. Given the fact that mplayer can play windows media streams,
> there is a local radio station which streams in windows
> media. However, they stream in a window in IE, and don't actually open
> windows media player. The URL that will take you to their stream is
> 
> http://www.windy100.com/listen.php/
> 
> I've been trying to find a way to play this in the console under
> GNU/Linux, so that I would have one less thing that I need the other
> OS for, but so far no luck. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
> 
> Greg
> 
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Re: is there a way to play this stream in GNU/Linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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I think your reply was meant for another thread.

Greg


On Mon, May 31, 2004 at 10:06:31PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Run alsamixer and turn on the volume for your headphones.
> 

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