Re: Speakup with vim

["Bardia Zakeri" <bardiazakeri@gmail.com>]

how i can  repair the sound on ubuntu in my maskine i had windows and ubuntu 
wen i in ubuntu i cant hear sound but in windows and how i can write @ in 
linux wen i press altgr and 2 my ubuntu say sperskript 2
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Whapples" <mwhapples@aim.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: Speakup with vim


Al, I think your comments generally reflect what I am getting the
feeling of. I possibly have one other issue making emacs harder, not
only are there all those multiple key presses but any involving ctrl is
made harder by my computers' positioning of the ctrl key, shifted right
by one key because there is a FN key living in the bottom left of my
keyboards.

I'll probably experiment around more with vim and may be other vi
variants as I do feel the editor itself is more comfortable to use (yes
the mode thing is something which catches me out from time to time but I
guess over time I will just get used to the idea of the different
modes). I've heard that yasr possibly works better with vim in some cases.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> I liked the way Speakup worked with Emacs better than the way it works 
> with
> VIM.  I started out using Emacs.  I found the main drawback in Emacs for 
> me
> to be the multi-key combinations needed to do a lot of things:  it 
> actually
> was easier for me to adjust to Vim's different modes, although forgetting
> which one you're in can punch your face good.  Also, I could not seem to
> find in Emacs the means of saving word wrap and margin settings I wanted. 
> I
> may be wrong, but my impression is that, like Emacspeak, Emacs itself has
> quite the learning curve.
>
> Just my wooden penny's worth.
>
> Al
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:51 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Speakup with vim
>
> Thanks, that solves the specific issue. I still wonder if there is more
> which can be done to make vim work better, eg. using j and k (I can 
> imagine
> they actually are quicker to use than cursor keys when you are used to 
> them)
> speakup doesn't speak the new line you navigate to unless the screen is
> scrolling.
>
> Is this as good as speech output gets with vim? Might it be worth me 
> giving
> emacs (may be with emacspeak) more time?
>
> Michael Whapples
> On -10/01/37 20:59, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Michael Whapples, le Mon 14 Feb 2011 09:10:39 +0000, a écrit :
>>> The one problem I notice most is that when I go into insert mode as I
>>> type speakup seems to read from the status line rather than the
>>> characters typed. Also related, when using j and k to move lines
>>> speakup reads the status line as well rather than the line being moved
> to.
>> See http://brl.thefreecat.org/wiki/vi to fix these.
>>
>> Samuel
>>
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