* Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
@ Dan Massingale
` Erik Heil
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Massingale @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
With the raid thing you might check the lilo.conf for a line that talks
about the helpful raid thing it does, it may have somehow been
uncommented. Also with the debian etch install disc the menu offers a
shell, I don't remember how far you need to be in the install process to
get the choice for a shell but that is there also.
Dan
Steve Holmes wrote:
> Well for now, I have lilo installed but for some reason, it doesn't
> work right either. In the mean time, I booted with my slackware cd,
> got into a shell and am trying to run lilo with a chroot to update the
> lilo.conf file. But now I get a faital error about raid_setup. god
> knows what's going on here. What does raid_setup got to do with lilo?
>
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* Re: Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP! Dan Massingale
@ ` Erik Heil
` Alex Snow
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi their,
If you want to get into a shell, normally its available on the second
VC--at least in in Etch, and I'd assume lenny as well, its a Busybox
implementation. That is of particular concern to you because its an
extremely restricted environment. e.g. you are restricted to what
functions are built into the binary. Just something that you may want to
be aware of. When in the Busybox shell, typically you're installed system
is mounted under /target or something similar. So what you end up having
is an extremely limited environment in which to perform system tasks. Its
intended to be used in situations where Bash or another shell is not
available either for space considerations, or where you have a very broken
system and you can't access the filesystem where bash is mounted.
--Erik
On Sat, 11 Oct 2008, Dan Massingale wrote:
> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:03:44 -0600
> From: Dan Massingale <danmass@valornet.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> With the raid thing you might check the lilo.conf for a line that talks
> about the helpful raid thing it does, it may have somehow been
> uncommented. Also with the debian etch install disc the menu offers a
> shell, I don't remember how far you need to be in the install process to
> get the choice for a shell but that is there also.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > Well for now, I have lilo installed but for some reason, it doesn't
>
> > work right either. In the mean time, I booted with my slackware cd,
>
> > got into a shell and am trying to run lilo with a chroot to update the
>
>
> > lilo.conf file. But now I get a faital error about raid_setup. god
>
> > knows what's going on here. What does raid_setup got to do with lilo?
>
> >
>
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* Re: Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP! Dan Massingale
` Erik Heil
@ ` Alex Snow
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Also pushing f2 should get you to a shell pretty early in the install.
On
Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:03:44AM -0600, Dan Massingale wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> With the raid thing you might check the lilo.conf for a line that talks
> about the helpful raid thing it does, it may have somehow been
> uncommented. Also with the debian etch install disc the menu offers a
> shell, I don't remember how far you need to be in the install process to
> get the choice for a shell but that is there also.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
> Steve Holmes wrote:
>
> > Well for now, I have lilo installed but for some reason, it doesn't
>
> > work right either. In the mean time, I booted with my slackware cd,
>
> > got into a shell and am trying to run lilo with a chroot to update the
>
>
> > lilo.conf file. But now I get a faital error about raid_setup. god
>
> > knows what's going on here. What does raid_setup got to do with lilo?
>
> >
>
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* Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
@ Dan Massingale
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dan Massingale @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
I am no expert but I've been working on the same thing for a bit. Seems
that no distros play well together in the boot env. first with Slackware
you know you can get a system booted with speach because that is where
the install starts. So you can always work from there.
next if you have a debian netinst disk of etch burned use speakup --
rescue as i remember, check the readme for syntax on that one.
or you could also edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change stuff in there, I
always move windows to the last entry on the box with it installed.
I've been successful at getting debian and fedora to boot with grub so
it does actually work. If you use Slackware with the grub there is a bug
where 12.1 doesn't install properly. it will install grub and run
"grub-install hd0" but there is no menu.lst file installed on a fresh
install leaving the install unbootable.At that point I either mount a
different partition with a good menu.lst file and copy it to
/boot/grub/menu.lstthen edit it to suit my needs. and rerun
grub-install hd0 as I boot from my primary array. So I have been doing
the same thing you are talking about with reinstalling with a debian
install disc when worse comes to oworse. Hope this helps
Dan
From: Steve Holmes <steve@holmesgrown.com>
Subject: Re: New Debian Install - HELP!
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Yeah, I got past that now. I did it by pressing down arrow once followed
by tab and then typed speakup.synth=spkout. That part worked. I am
having a hang-up right now as grub is the default loader and after the
install finished, I was forced to reboot. First of all, I don't know how
to interract with grub and over-ride kernel parameters; but worse yet,
my machine at the moment won't boot into anything!!!. I have an existing
windows partition on the first disk and am I'm installing linux on the
second disk. Apparently, grub did not configure this properly. It's like
windows is trying to boot strait away and grub never comes up at all.
I'm now sitting here waiting to errase the entire linux partition so I
can start over with Debian and maybe I can get the thing to skip grub
and install lilo instead. I know lilo from my Slackware days and I know
it is capable of booting on one drive and dual booting for both windows
and linux. Plus I can make lilo talk at the beginning. Grub looks to o
convoluted to me as a first impression.
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