Re: xwindows

["Erik Heil" <eheil@rcn.com>]

Hi, Steve.  I would be interested in helping to create such a tutorial.
However, we would have to have some standard course, because their are so
mahy istros out there.  It may be safe to assume that I would concentrate on
Debian, because this is mainly what I am ufamiliar with.  As far as setting
up Lynx and pine goes, that's a pretty streight forward process.  You nneed
not be concerned with building the applications from source code, because
there are always precompiled binaries available.  In my case, editing a
makefile and building a particular application from its source tree really
isn't a problem.  Then again this might be considered an advanced topic.
I'd be interested to hear any comments from you and the list at large as a
whole.  For those of you who may be at the NFB convention this year in
Louieville, I was even thinking of doing some Linux promoting, perhaps
creating a few CD sets of the binary and source Debian distros.
--Regards,
Erik
>eheil@rcn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: xwindows


> I think there's a few reasons why.  First of all, it takes time; the
> time spent will be the free available time someone has to sit down and
> do such a thing.  Another is that basic needs vary enough that it may
> be quite difficult to come up with a generic tutorial that would fit
> everyone.  Some while back, there were two brief introductions to
> Linux done for the Main Menu program.  Brief, yes; a bit specific?
> yes.  Joe Norton's deal mainly spent time on getting and installing
> Slackware and Matt Campbell's project talked about Debian and doing
> some basic functions on getting around on Linux.  I'm not sure if
> either of these programs will really get someone going with Linux, but
> it is a good start.
>
> This all-in-one tutorial would have to address the differences among
> the popular distributions of Linux, how to use and configure several
> clients like mail for use, how to configure lynx since that seems to
> be the browser of choice, some basic sys admin needs such as getting
> PPP to work or configuring the network interface.  Gee did I miss
> anything?:) You can see quickly how this tutorial becomes a *HUGE*
> project.  I wonder how much time Jonathan has available for this; it
> might take six months:)  I don't know, might not take that long but it
> is a mammoth project indeed.
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 01:26:52PM -0400, Will Smith wrote:
> > Hello Charles,
> >
> > Thanks for saying so well what I've been thinking for years!  I'd be
glad
> > to purchase a linux "how-to" tutorial that would  provide a solid and
> > detailed step by step guide on how to set up and run slackware and
debian
> > for my daily online needs.
> >
> > I'm surprised that no one has been willing or able to create such a
> > tutorial product, as I believe it would fill a great and growing need by
> > many blind computer users.
> >
> > Will
> > wilsmith@iglou.com
> >  On Tue, 14 May 2002, Charles Crawford wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >Hi toby and all,
> > >
> > >
> > >          You said: "Another way to put it, if I were
> > > >being particularly blunt, which I'm not, is r t fm.
> > > >
> > > >Ok, so people don't use uniform interfaces, but that's great, cos it
means
> > > >that those that don't like a certain interface have a choice."
> > >
> > >
> > >    While I understand what you are saying, the statement only
reinforces
> > > the view of the vast majority of people who reject Linux and Unix for
that
> > > matter based upon the real difficulties of using them.
> > >
> > >          I do not consider myself a novice at computing and I love the
text
> > > mode of Linux and it's speed, but spending inordinate amounts of time
> > > trying to learn and use this obviously great system is a time consumer
> > > neither I nor most other folks can aford.
> > >
> > >          Even when I have consulted the how to docs, I have to say
that
> > > they often only sort of help.  So why is there not a tape tutorial for
> > > Linux tht can be used by the average blind person?  Maybe that is more
> > > needed than any other project.
> > >
> > > -- Charlie.
> > >
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