information on making speakup work with soft synths

information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Tyler Littlefield]

Hello,
I found a page a while back, that explained how to get speakup working with software speech.
I seem to have lost that resource--can anyone point me toward something that might help?
I've got speech-dispatcher set up, and have espeak installed, so I'm working on how to test it, and how to link speech-dispatcher with speechd-up, and then to speakup.

Thanks,
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Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Hynek Hanke]

Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> I found a page a while back, that explained how to get speakup working with software speech.
> I seem to have lost that resource--can anyone point me toward something that might help?
>   
Hello,

one of the resources that might help you is this one:

http://www.freebsoft.org/doc/speechd-up/speechd-up_1.html#SEC2

I fear however that it is a little outdated in details, especially
on the speakup side. I'd appreciate if anyone could point comments
on whether this howto needs to be changed.
> I've got speech-dispatcher set up, and have espeak installed, so I'm working on how to test it
> and how to link speech-dispatcher with speechd-up, and then to speakup.
>   
The above howto should give you quite a good idea
and you can always ask questions here.

With regards,
Hynek Hanke

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Tyler Littlefield]

hello,
Thanks--I'll take a look; it may require some tweaking, but I'll get it 
working eventually

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hynek Hanke" <hanke@brailcom.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths


> Tyler Littlefield wrote:
>> I found a page a while back, that explained how to get speakup working 
>> with software speech.
>> I seem to have lost that resource--can anyone point me toward something 
>> that might help?
>>
> Hello,
>
> one of the resources that might help you is this one:
>
> http://www.freebsoft.org/doc/speechd-up/speechd-up_1.html#SEC2
>
> I fear however that it is a little outdated in details, especially
> on the speakup side. I'd appreciate if anyone could point comments
> on whether this howto needs to be changed.
>> I've got speech-dispatcher set up, and have espeak installed, so I'm 
>> working on how to test it
>> and how to link speech-dispatcher with speechd-up, and then to speakup.
>>
> The above howto should give you quite a good idea
> and you can always ask questions here.
>
> With regards,
> Hynek Hanke
>
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Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hynek Hanke" <hanke@brailcom.org>
> I fear however that it is a little outdated in details, especially
> on the speakup side. I'd appreciate if anyone could point comments
> on whether this howto needs to be changed.


Probably the top thing for me would be the download iinfo for speechd-up. I 
saw in another message that you released an upgrade to 0.6 but if you click 
on the link to download the source tar ball, you get a page that has tar 
balls stopping at 0.4.

I've been building a debian speechd-up package for people to download but 
it's still at 0.5 because that's what I get if I click on the link titled 
"Download the latest cvs snapshot".

So unless you want to use cvs, the latest version you can download is 0.5.


I can also give you a list of additional debian packages  that you need in 
order to compile speechd-up. 

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Samuel Thibault]

John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 09:43:04 -0500, a écrit :
> I've been building a debian speechd-up package for people to download

BTW, could you provide the source of your packaging please?

Samuel

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths


John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 09:43:04 -0500, a écrit :
> I've been building a debian speechd-up package for people to download

BTW, could you provide the source of your packaging please?


You mean like the internal files for preinst & postinst? I think the best 
thing to do is to extract them from the deb package via the standard tools.

The process is explained in the following document:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/#AEN48
That's the document I've been working from when building the deb package.

I don't pretend to be a great script guru so there might be a lot of ways 
the install and un-install scripts could be improved. And also, the init.d 
script could probably be improved. Any suggestions are welcome

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Samuel Thibault]

John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 10:28:00 -0500, a écrit :
> John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 09:43:04 -0500, a écrit :
> >I've been building a debian speechd-up package for people to download
> 
> BTW, could you provide the source of your packaging please?
> 
> 
> You mean like the internal files for preinst & postinst?

Not only that, but also debian/rules etc.

Samuel

my email from Satorday?

[John covici]

I am wondering if you ever got my Email from Saturday with further
speakup test results and if so -- any comments?

Thanks.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

my email from Satorday?

[John covici]

Sorry, this was to go to Samuel only.

on Monday 07/14/2008 John covici(covici@ccs.covici.com) wrote
 > I am wondering if you ever got my Email from Saturday with further
 > speakup test results and if so -- any comments?
 > 
 > Thanks.
 > 
 > -- 
 > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
 > How do
 > you spend it?
 > 
 >          John Covici
 >          covici@ccs.covici.com
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 > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
 > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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How do
you spend it?

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Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
> You mean like the internal files for preinst & postinst?

Not only that, but also debian/rules etc.

Is there something you can't get via the ar tool?

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Samuel Thibault]

John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 11:47:48 -0500, a écrit :
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Samuel Thibault" <samuel.thibault@ens-lyon.org>
> >You mean like the internal files for preinst & postinst?
> 
> Not only that, but also debian/rules etc.
> 
> Is there something you can't get via the ar tool?

debian/rules, for one :)

Samuel

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- > Is there something you can't get via the ar 
tool?

debian/rules, for one :)


I don't have a file like that.

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Samuel Thibault]

John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 12:18:35 -0500, a écrit :
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- > Is there something you can't get via the ar 
> tool?
> 
> debian/rules, for one :)
> 
> 
> I don't have a file like that.

How are you building the .debs?  Completely by hand?

Samuel

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- 
How are you building the .debs?  Completely by hand?


Well, it's just a dpkg command. I followed the instructions at that howto I 
mentioned earlier.

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[Samuel Thibault]

John Heim, le Mon 14 Jul 2008 12:44:26 -0500, a écrit :
> Well, it's just a dpkg command. I followed the instructions at that howto I 
> mentioned earlier.

That's what I call "by hand" actually, because that means you had to
compile the program before etc. Nowadays this is all handled by a
./debian/rules file, that howto is quite deprecated (it talks about
Debian 2.2, that's ages ago).  But well ok.

Samuel

Re: information on making speakup work with soft synths

[John Heim]

----- Original Message ----- > I fear however that it is a little outdated 
in details, especially
> on the speakup side. I'd appreciate if anyone could point comments
> on whether this howto needs to be changed.


I just compiled speechd-up on a new-ish debian machine. I grepped my bash 
history for things I installed while trying to compile it. Here is the list:

autoconf
automake
g++
libdotconf
libdotconf-dev
libglibmm-2.4-dev
libspeechd-dev
libspeechd2
libtool
makeinfo
speech-dispatcher
texi2html
texinfo

I kind of remember installing each of these in response to error messages I 
got during the compile. So I think most, if not all of the packages in the 
above list are necessary. I think the docs say that texinfo and texi2html 
aren't required but I think they are. Speech-dispatcher might not be 
required. I haven't tried it without installing that first.

I know this is a difficult issue for you as a documentation writer & source 
code maintainer. The problem is that if any of these packages is missing, 
you get very cryptic error messages. In some cases, I had to do some serious 
detective work to figure out what I had to install to get the compile to 
keep going.

Of course, even the above list probably isn't exhaustive. My system probably 
had a bunch of packages installed that would have caused problems had they 
been missing.


So good luck with the docs.