* [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
@ KatolaZ
` Øyvind Lode
` Paul Loba
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: KatolaZ @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 956 bytes --]
Hi there,
sorry for the sliglt OT. Just wanted to let you know that Devuan
Jessie stable, the fork of Debian without systemd, has just been
released:
https://devuan.org/
The reason why this fact might be interesting to this ML is that it
comes with a minimal-live iso:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/
which is a console-only live system with support for accessibility,
made possible also thanks to several people in this list who provided
feedback, comments, and suggestions. Feel free to give it a try, if
you like, and to report any problems.
HND
KatolaZ
--
[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
[OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out KatolaZ
@ ` Øyvind Lode
` KatolaZ
` Paul Loba
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Øyvind Lode @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi:
Is the installer accessible as well?
On the official Debian netinst iso one simply press 's' on the boot
promt to start speech.
Speakup is also configured to start automatically on the newly installed system.
I don't like systemd, so Devuan is interesting if installer is working
as on official Debian and that Devuan also contains all packages
included in Debian main, contrib and non-free.
Thanks,
On 27 May 2017 at 21:22, KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> sorry for the sliglt OT. Just wanted to let you know that Devuan
> Jessie stable, the fork of Debian without systemd, has just been
> released:
>
> https://devuan.org/
>
> The reason why this fact might be interesting to this ML is that it
> comes with a minimal-live iso:
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/
>
> which is a console-only live system with support for accessibility,
> made possible also thanks to several people in this list who provided
> feedback, comments, and suggestions. Feel free to give it a try, if
> you like, and to report any problems.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
> --
> [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
` Øyvind Lode
@ ` KatolaZ
` Paul Loba
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: KatolaZ @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1448 bytes --]
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 12:09:47PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Is the installer accessible as well?
>
> On the official Debian netinst iso one simply press 's' on the boot
> promt to start speech.
> Speakup is also configured to start automatically on the newly installed system.
>
> I don't like systemd, so Devuan is interesting if installer is working
> as on official Debian and that Devuan also contains all packages
> included in Debian main, contrib and non-free.
>
Hi,
the default Devuan installers are the same as Debian's. The Devuan
live images (both minimal-live, which is the "accessible" console
desktop, and desktop-live, that is the full-featured live desktop) can
be installed usinf a simple script, called refractainstaller.
I know that there are a few glitches concerning accessibility on the
Devuan graphical desktop, but I also know that several blind and
visually impaired users have successfully used and installed the
minimal-live image, which has accessible boot and ships with brltty,
yasr, espeak, and espeakup.
My2Cents
KatolaZ
--
[ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
[ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
[ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
[ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
[ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
` KatolaZ
@ ` Paul Loba
` Glenn At Home
` Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paul Loba @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
I got my installation iso from 'installer-iso] area downloading
devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_CD.iso and ran my installation from scratch
including mate-desktop in it. All went through with no trouble. Only
small opstical is while entering the graphical environment, one has to
type in username and password with no speech; when done ORCA kicks in.
Great job,
Pawel
On 5/28/17, KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> wrote:
> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 12:09:47PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is the installer accessible as well?
>>
>> On the official Debian netinst iso one simply press 's' on the boot
>> promt to start speech.
>> Speakup is also configured to start automatically on the newly installed
>> system.
>>
>> I don't like systemd, so Devuan is interesting if installer is working
>> as on official Debian and that Devuan also contains all packages
>> included in Debian main, contrib and non-free.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> the default Devuan installers are the same as Debian's. The Devuan
> live images (both minimal-live, which is the "accessible" console
> desktop, and desktop-live, that is the full-featured live desktop) can
> be installed usinf a simple script, called refractainstaller.
>
> I know that there are a few glitches concerning accessibility on the
> Devuan graphical desktop, but I also know that several blind and
> visually impaired users have successfully used and installed the
> minimal-live image, which has accessible boot and ships with brltty,
> yasr, espeak, and espeakup.
>
> My2Cents
>
> KatolaZ
>
> --
> [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
` Paul Loba
@ ` Glenn At Home
` Gregory Nowak
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn At Home @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Maybe you can start it before password with control + S.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Loba" <pltechmail@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
Hi,
I got my installation iso from 'installer-iso] area downloading
devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_CD.iso and ran my installation from scratch
including mate-desktop in it. All went through with no trouble. Only
small opstical is while entering the graphical environment, one has to
type in username and password with no speech; when done ORCA kicks in.
Great job,
Pawel
On 5/28/17, KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> wrote:
> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 12:09:47PM +0200, Øyvind Lode wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>> Is the installer accessible as well?
>>
>> On the official Debian netinst iso one simply press 's' on the boot
>> promt to start speech.
>> Speakup is also configured to start automatically on the newly installed
>> system.
>>
>> I don't like systemd, so Devuan is interesting if installer is working
>> as on official Debian and that Devuan also contains all packages
>> included in Debian main, contrib and non-free.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> the default Devuan installers are the same as Debian's. The Devuan
> live images (both minimal-live, which is the "accessible" console
> desktop, and desktop-live, that is the full-featured live desktop) can
> be installed usinf a simple script, called refractainstaller.
>
> I know that there are a few glitches concerning accessibility on the
> Devuan graphical desktop, but I also know that several blind and
> visually impaired users have successfully used and installed the
> minimal-live image, which has accessible boot and ships with brltty,
> yasr, espeak, and espeakup.
>
> My2Cents
>
> KatolaZ
>
> --
> [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@linux-speakup.org
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
` Paul Loba
` Glenn At Home
@ ` Gregory Nowak
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Yes, everything is pretty much as Pawel described. You can type s
<enter> just like you would with debian, and the devuan installer is
accessible.
As far as no speech in the GUI at the login screen, this is because
devuan uses the slim login manager, which isn't accessible. This issue
has been documented at:
<https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/Installer_Feedback/issues/3>
I haven't gotten around to migrating this issue to the devuan BTS
yet. The work arounds I mentioned however do still work in the
official devuan jessie release, and provide speech at the lightdm
login screen.
Greg
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 03:45:31PM -0400, Paul Loba wrote:
> Hi,
> I got my installation iso from 'installer-iso] area downloading
> devuan_jessie_1.0.0_amd64_CD.iso and ran my installation from scratch
> including mate-desktop in it. All went through with no trouble. Only
> small opstical is while entering the graphical environment, one has to
> type in username and password with no speech; when done ORCA kicks in.
> Great job,
> Pawel
--
web site: http://www.gregn.net
gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc
skype: gregn1
(authorization required, add me to your contacts list first)
If we haven't been in touch before, e-mail me before adding me to your contacts.
--
Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
[OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out KatolaZ
` Øyvind Lode
@ ` Paul Loba
` Glenn At Home
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paul Loba @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
No problems with installation but no speech in graphical mate-desktop
environment.
Any suggestions please.
Pawel
On 5/27/17, KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> sorry for the sliglt OT. Just wanted to let you know that Devuan
> Jessie stable, the fork of Debian without systemd, has just been
> released:
>
> https://devuan.org/
>
> The reason why this fact might be interesting to this ML is that it
> comes with a minimal-live iso:
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/
>
> which is a console-only live system with support for accessibility,
> made possible also thanks to several people in this list who provided
> feedback, comments, and suggestions. Feel free to give it a try, if
> you like, and to report any problems.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
> --
> [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
` Paul Loba
@ ` Glenn At Home
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Glenn At Home @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I am sure that you could install the mate desktop.
That comes with Orca I'm guessing.
At the CLI, try:
sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
That is just a guess however.
If you do a WWW search for
CLI installing mate desktop
you might get better answers.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Loba" <pltechmail@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out
Hi,
No problems with installation but no speech in graphical mate-desktop
environment.
Any suggestions please.
Pawel
On 5/27/17, KatolaZ <katolaz@freaknet.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> sorry for the sliglt OT. Just wanted to let you know that Devuan
> Jessie stable, the fork of Debian without systemd, has just been
> released:
>
> https://devuan.org/
>
> The reason why this fact might be interesting to this ML is that it
> comes with a minimal-live iso:
>
> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_jessie/minimal-live/
>
> which is a console-only live system with support for accessibility,
> made possible also thanks to several people in this list who provided
> feedback, comments, and suggestions. Feel free to give it a try, if
> you like, and to report any problems.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
> --
> [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - GLUGCT -- Freaknet Medialab ]
> [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ]
> [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ]
> [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ]
> [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ]
>
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@linux-speakup.org
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~ UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
[OT] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 is out KatolaZ
` Øyvind Lode
` KatolaZ
` Paul Loba
` Glenn At Home
` Gregory Nowak
` Paul Loba
` Glenn At Home
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).