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From: "Glenn Ervin" <GlennErvin@cableone.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Software speech opinions
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:31:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <024e01c7b7aa$e5dda520$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <006901c7b7ac$77a023b0$ab00a8c0@tenstac>

The argument about competition bringing down the price does not wash with 
screen-readers for Windows.
JFW &  W E have both gone up in the past years, and continue to do so.
I am waiting for a screen-reader like NVDA or Thunder to get nearly as 
functional as the above mentioned major screen-readers, and maybe then they 
will come down in price.
But until they have to, they will keep milking us for all it's worth.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Sutherland" <doug@proficio.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: Software speech opinions


I used to have resources for some R&D and did many things. One was
to get a "special" keyboard designed for people with limited motor skills,
to find out what was so special about it, and why it was so damn
expesive. Granted it was more expensive than a normal keyboard, had
proximity sensors and audible feedback, and somebody had to write
some custom firmware, but at $450 for a keyboard that was an
astounding sum. If you look beyond stuff like just software, to the whole
assistive tech market in general, you see inflated prices that as I said, I
consider to be obscene.

Software can be free, yes, but that doesn't solve many other needs. Much
work needs to be done and it can't all be free, or the advancement is
limited. As long as assistive tech is considered to be something that is so
radically different that the only answer is "there are grants for that" then
choices are limited and some of the much needed R&D doesn't get done.
I personally believe most people are missing something important, that
some of these assistive tech ideas are ones that many people need. Take
speech tech for example, people can't look at a computer screen while
they are driving, and not really efficiently while walking. They do not
need to be disabled in any way to benefit from speech and many other
assistive technologies.

Work on all of these things are more globally desireable than one would
think if you break them down into parts. Take a keyboard for example,
there should be multiple modalities available as the input to anything and
the output from everything in the long term. I'm all for open source but
then to expect everything to be free means, at least to some degree, you
get what you pay for. People will pay for good tech, if it's fair priced.
At least part of what is happening, the part I don't like, is that for some
things, they are intentionally so expensive that nobody can afford them
without some subsidy, grant, insurance, or some other bueroctratic
process. More comptetition would actually drive prices down. More
people making products would be a good thing. If all assistive tech
was done for free then it would only ever be hobby activity, it will
never put food on the table of people who produce it.

  -- Doug


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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Keith Hinton
 ` Jan Buchal
 ` Doug Sutherland
   ` Gaijin
     ` Doug Sutherland
       ` C.M. Brannon
         ` Travis Siegel
           ` Glenn Ervin
           ` Doug Sutherland
       ` Gaijin
         ` Gregory Nowak
           ` Gaijin
             ` Doug Smith
           ` Doug Sutherland
             ` Gaijin
           ` Glenn Ervin
             ` Doug Sutherland
               ` Glenn Ervin [this message]
                 ` Steve Holmes
     [not found]             ` <20070626042409.GA25331@cm.nu>
               ` Glenn Ervin
                 ` John Heim
                   ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
                     ` John Heim
                       ` Glenn Ervin
                       ` Scott Berry
                         ` John Heim
                           ` Scott Berry
                       ` Albert E. Sten-Clanton
               ` Doug Sutherland
                 ` Doug Sutherland
                   ` Glenn Ervin
                 ` John Heim
                   ` Butch Bussen
               ` John Heim

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