Fedora 3 installation question

Fedora 3 installation question

[W. Nick Dotson]

OK, I've the rankest of newbies; and have been depending heavily upon the list of Janina Sajska and Debee Norling, way too much thus far.  I'm a document 
reader, as I do Tech Support for a living and have been doing so since 1985...  So, here goes the sharing of the pain!

I've succeeded at downloading all the disks I think I need from the "linux-speakup.org" site, to the speakup, fedora, discs, current, and downloaded all of the 
disks and put 'em on CD, and can see the files...

The computer I'm wanting to torture with my learning curve is a 500MHz p3 with 1GB RAM, a 20GB drive that's going to belong to Fedora completely, and lots 
of space for more discs for the fantasy things I think I can do with Linux and want to try to learn to do, both EIDE and SCSI support available.  This used to be 
my MIDI box...  (grin)

I can pay the cab company $40 for the roundtrip to the computer store, or try to con some UPS driver or mail person to help me change the BIOS for a CD-ROM 
boot: but I'd rather not!  I need precise steps if possible for booting from the CD-ROM from a "dOS prompt when I've exited 98 to MS-DOS, or, some other way 
of getting the installation started...  I have read the Red Hat 9 installation guide, and it refers to running "d:\dosutils\dosboot.bat" but find no "dosutils" folder on 
any of the discs...

Nick

Re: Fedora 3 installation question

[Janina Sajka]

I don't believe the Fedora install is bootable from DOS. Perhaps someone
will prove me wrong, but I don't expect that.

If your only options are boot from hd or boot from floppy, I believe
Debian can still be installed from floppy. You could then either stay
with Debian, or set up a Fedora installation from hard drive by putting
the installation vmlinuz and initrd.img in /boot and referencing them
appropriately with grub or lilo. It may just be easier to upgrade the
bios.

W. Nick Dotson writes:
> OK, I've the rankest of newbies; and have been depending heavily upon the list of Janina Sajska and Debee Norling, way too much thus far.  I'm a document 
> reader, as I do Tech Support for a living and have been doing so since 1985...  So, here goes the sharing of the pain!
> 
> I've succeeded at downloading all the disks I think I need from the "linux-speakup.org" site, to the speakup, fedora, discs, current, and downloaded all of the 
> disks and put 'em on CD, and can see the files...
> 
> The computer I'm wanting to torture with my learning curve is a 500MHz p3 with 1GB RAM, a 20GB drive that's going to belong to Fedora completely, and lots 
> of space for more discs for the fantasy things I think I can do with Linux and want to try to learn to do, both EIDE and SCSI support available.  This used to be 
> my MIDI box...  (grin)
> 
> I can pay the cab company $40 for the roundtrip to the computer store, or try to con some UPS driver or mail person to help me change the BIOS for a CD-ROM 
> boot: but I'd rather not!  I need precise steps if possible for booting from the CD-ROM from a "dOS prompt when I've exited 98 to MS-DOS, or, some other way 
> of getting the installation started...  I have read the Red Hat 9 installation guide, and it refers to running "d:\dosutils\dosboot.bat" but find no "dosutils" folder on 
> any of the discs...
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Fedora 3 installation question

[Lisa Hall]

Hi everyone,

I am responding to the same version that Nick Dotson was referring to.
Before I installed Fedora version 3, I read the installation that was
specifically for version 2.  I don't believe the installation how to guide
have been updated on the web site.  Anyone helping in updating the web site
with the latest documentation for installation?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@bellsouth.net>
To: "speakup list" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:54 AM
Subject: Fedora 3 installation question


OK, I've the rankest of newbies; and have been depending heavily upon the
list of Janina Sajska and Debee Norling, way too much thus far.  I'm a
document
reader, as I do Tech Support for a living and have been doing so since
1985...  So, here goes the sharing of the pain!

I've succeeded at downloading all the disks I think I need from the
"linux-speakup.org" site, to the speakup, fedora, discs, current, and
downloaded all of the
disks and put 'em on CD, and can see the files...

The computer I'm wanting to torture with my learning curve is a 500MHz p3
with 1GB RAM, a 20GB drive that's going to belong to Fedora completely, and
lots
of space for more discs for the fantasy things I think I can do with Linux
and want to try to learn to do, both EIDE and SCSI support available.  This
used to be
my MIDI box...  (grin)

I can pay the cab company $40 for the roundtrip to the computer store, or
try to con some UPS driver or mail person to help me change the BIOS for a
CD-ROM
boot: but I'd rather not!  I need precise steps if possible for booting from
the CD-ROM from a "dOS prompt when I've exited 98 to MS-DOS, or, some other
way
of getting the installation started...  I have read the Red Hat 9
installation guide, and it refers to running "d:\dosutils\dosboot.bat" but
find no "dosutils" folder on
any of the discs...

Nick




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Re: Fedora 3 installation question

[Gregory Nowak]

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Slackware is still bootable via floppy as well. If you go the
slackware route though, be sure to use the speakup.s floppy from
slackware 9.1, since something is screwed up with the speakup.s floppy
image from slackware 10, and it doesn't talk.

Greg


On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 11:51:39AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I don't believe the Fedora install is bootable from DOS. Perhaps someone
> will prove me wrong, but I don't expect that.
> 
> If your only options are boot from hd or boot from floppy, I believe
> Debian can still be installed from floppy. You could then either stay
> with Debian, or set up a Fedora installation from hard drive by putting
> the installation vmlinuz and initrd.img in /boot and referencing them
> appropriately with grub or lilo. It may just be easier to upgrade the
> bios.
> 

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Re: Fedora 3 installation question

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Lisa:

Yes, I'm working on the HOWTO. It shouldn't be much longer.

However, there are no substantive diffeences. In other words, if you
follow the HOWTO currently on line, you won't have any real issues.

Perhaps the only thing that might need comment is that Fedora Core 3
provides SE-Linux. We advise disabling, or checking the box for "warn
only." Of course, if you know about SE-Linux and know what you're doing
with it, by all means use it.

Lisa Hall writes:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am responding to the same version that Nick Dotson was referring to.
> Before I installed Fedora version 3, I read the installation that was
> specifically for version 2.  I don't believe the installation how to guide
> have been updated on the web site.  Anyone helping in updating the web site
> with the latest documentation for installation?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@bellsouth.net>
> To: "speakup list" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:54 AM
> Subject: Fedora 3 installation question
> 
> 
> OK, I've the rankest of newbies; and have been depending heavily upon the
> list of Janina Sajska and Debee Norling, way too much thus far.  I'm a
> document
> reader, as I do Tech Support for a living and have been doing so since
> 1985...  So, here goes the sharing of the pain!
> 
> I've succeeded at downloading all the disks I think I need from the
> "linux-speakup.org" site, to the speakup, fedora, discs, current, and
> downloaded all of the
> disks and put 'em on CD, and can see the files...
> 
> The computer I'm wanting to torture with my learning curve is a 500MHz p3
> with 1GB RAM, a 20GB drive that's going to belong to Fedora completely, and
> lots
> of space for more discs for the fantasy things I think I can do with Linux
> and want to try to learn to do, both EIDE and SCSI support available.  This
> used to be
> my MIDI box...  (grin)
> 
> I can pay the cab company $40 for the roundtrip to the computer store, or
> try to con some UPS driver or mail person to help me change the BIOS for a
> CD-ROM
> boot: but I'd rather not!  I need precise steps if possible for booting from
> the CD-ROM from a "dOS prompt when I've exited 98 to MS-DOS, or, some other
> way
> of getting the installation started...  I have read the Red Hat 9
> installation guide, and it refers to running "d:\dosutils\dosboot.bat" but
> find no "dosutils" folder on
> any of the discs...
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040