Re: An idea,

["Laura Eaves" <leaves1@carolina.rr.com>]

Hi Sina --
Are you then referring to the implementation of the image and context 
elements similar to what is done in the kurzweil scanner?
Just curious. You did say on another list that you had helped or at least 
beta tested the scanner while it was being designed.
Anyway, back to image recognition: You are then looking to use this approach 
in a screen reader that runs on the computer you are trying to use, not as 
an external scanner -- I mean that is obvious, but this is getting off topic 
for the speakup list.
SVG I assume is scalable vector graphics?
Take care.
--le


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@nc.rr.com>
To: "'Laura Eaves'" <leaves1@carolina.rr.com>; "'Speakup is a screen review 
system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: An idea,


Hi Laura,

I never mentioned a camera at all. I'm talking SVG, not OCR for text, but
recognition of SVG elements for contextual information about certain
situations and environments.

Take care,
Sina


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Laura Eaves
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:34 PM
To: speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: An idea,

Hi Sina --
Well, I have been following the discussion on ossrp-control (in case you
forgot I'm subscribed) and hope for a good solution, but after having worn
out my right eye with diminishing vision for year after year and having
people tell me an external camera was the way to go rather than hacking into
X-Windows when I was on unix ((I did try modifying xwindows but dropped it
as my vision was such that it was impossible for me to test and I could get
no one where I worked interested in helping out), and then trying to learn
to use screen mag and screen readers on windows before they were developed
enough to be useful for the apps I needed to use,..., anyway, after all that
I am still a bit leary of a solution using only an external camera --
whether to magnify or to do tts or ttbraille.
I have been so relieved at the speed possible using a screen reader that the
thought of wielding a camera around in front of a screen again as my only
means of reading the screen makes me a bit nauseous...
But I am not dismissing it as a bad idea, only saying not to pin all hopes
on that as the only idea for all applications.
So is it better to dive headfirst into the guts of the operating system, or
sit on the outside and so OCR or image recognition? Interesting thought.
But back to speakup -- obviously we all know which is the bias on this list!
Take care
--le

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sina Bahram" <
sbahram@nc.rr.com>

To: "'Laura Eaves'" <
leaves1@carolina.rr.com>
; "'Speakup is a screen review
system for Linux.'" <
speakup@braille.uwo.ca>

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: An idea,

Well ... I hope to prove you wrong Laura my dear, since that's exactly what
Will and the rest of us are doing with the OSSRP that you've heard us
talking about on the other list.

SVG makes a great deal of the contextual part of this possible.

Take care,
Sina

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