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* trying to get started.
@  Glenn Ervin
   ` Janina Sajka
   ` erik burggraaf
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux - speakup

I need some help getting started.

I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
installation.
I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens of
files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
package I go with as one file.

Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of the
three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from a
CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies, which
is what debian seems to offer.

Thanks for any assistance.



"Live long and prosper",
O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
N0YJV
Northeast Nebraska
e-mail:
glennervin@cableone.net
The above address can also be found on MSM.
or my work e-mail:
gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us




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* Re: trying to get started.
   trying to get started Glenn Ervin
@  ` Janina Sajka
     ` Glenn Ervin
   ` erik burggraaf
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

If you will read the archive of this list, or really any Linux list, you'll soon discover that the question of what
distribution to choose is really a personal choice. It cannot really be said that this or that distribution is more
accessible, or friendlier to users of Speakup. It comes down to personal choice and style, as I said.

So, in the expectation that others will speak up for other distributions, let me advise you that installing Red Hat 8.0
is one very good option. If you get a Red Hat 8.0 boxed set at your local computer store, or from any number of sources
on the net, you'll have all you need to install with speech, and end up with a speaking installation. Just be sure it's
Red Hat 8.0, and not some lower number. You can, of course, also just download the ISO images and create your own CD
ROMs--or install from hard disk, etc. To learn about this read our installation HOWTO at:

	http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

Even though this HOWTO is not yet updated for version 8.0 of Red Hat, it's quite accurate about the process. The one
difference, and it's a big difference, is that you can now skip all that stuff about downloading and preparing media, if
you don't want to bother with that process, by simply buying an official Red Hat 8.0 set of disks.


Glenn Ervin writes:
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
> 
> I need some help getting started.
> 
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
> I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
> I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
> installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
> package I go with as one file.
> 
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies, which
> is what debian seems to offer.
> 
> Thanks for any assistance.
> 
> 
> 
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175


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* Re: trying to get started.
   ` Janina Sajka
@    ` Glenn Ervin
       ` John Lee
                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi Janina,
I am glad you mentioned that ISA means an image of a CD, as I had looked
around for an image, and I saw the ISA downloads, but I did not know what it
meant.  To me ISA is an old type of expansion slot, but I knew that this
could not be what it was meaning.
I noticed in the debian area there was a couple of packages of isa
downloads.  How does one decide which one to download?  I suppose you need
to just check out what utilities are on that particular package,, or is
virtually every program created for that version of linux on every CD image?

I guess another part of my original question referred to the fact that I am
not worried about disk space, and linux, on my system,  will have 2
different DOS partitions to work with, I can afford to use a version of
linux which relies little on floppy disks; for the install.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


If you will read the archive of this list, or really any Linux list, you'll
soon discover that the question of what
distribution to choose is really a personal choice. It cannot really be said
that this or that distribution is more
accessible, or friendlier to users of Speakup. It comes down to personal
choice and style, as I said.

So, in the expectation that others will speak up for other distributions,
let me advise you that installing Red Hat 8.0
is one very good option. If you get a Red Hat 8.0 boxed set at your local
computer store, or from any number of sources
on the net, you'll have all you need to install with speech, and end up with
a speaking installation. Just be sure it's
Red Hat 8.0, and not some lower number. You can, of course, also just
download the ISO images and create your own CD
ROMs--or install from hard disk, etc. To learn about this read our
installation HOWTO at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

Even though this HOWTO is not yet updated for version 8.0 of Red Hat, it's
quite accurate about the process. The one
difference, and it's a big difference, is that you can now skip all that
stuff about downloading and preparing media, if
you don't want to bother with that process, by simply buying an official Red
Hat 8.0 set of disks.


Glenn Ervin writes:
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
>
> I need some help getting started.
>
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
> I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
> I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
> installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens
of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
> package I go with as one file.
>
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of
the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from
a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
which
> is what debian seems to offer.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

--

Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* RE: trying to get started.
     ` Glenn Ervin
@      ` John Lee
         ` Glenn Ervin
       ` Janina Sajka
       ` Bear in SFO
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: John Lee @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

IT IS SAYING ISO, NOT ISA.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:57 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


Hi Janina,
I am glad you mentioned that ISA means an image of a CD, as I had looked
around for an image, and I saw the ISA downloads, but I did not know
what it meant.  To me ISA is an old type of expansion slot, but I knew
that this could not be what it was meaning. I noticed in the debian area
there was a couple of packages of isa downloads.  How does one decide
which one to download?  I suppose you need to just check out what
utilities are on that particular package,, or is virtually every program
created for that version of linux on every CD image?

I guess another part of my original question referred to the fact that I
am not worried about disk space, and linux, on my system,  will have 2
different DOS partitions to work with, I can afford to use a version of
linux which relies little on floppy disks; for the install.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


If you will read the archive of this list, or really any Linux list,
you'll soon discover that the question of what distribution to choose is
really a personal choice. It cannot really be said that this or that
distribution is more accessible, or friendlier to users of Speakup. It
comes down to personal choice and style, as I said.

So, in the expectation that others will speak up for other
distributions, let me advise you that installing Red Hat 8.0 is one very
good option. If you get a Red Hat 8.0 boxed set at your local computer
store, or from any number of sources on the net, you'll have all you
need to install with speech, and end up with a speaking installation.
Just be sure it's Red Hat 8.0, and not some lower number. You can, of
course, also just download the ISO images and create your own CD
ROMs--or install from hard disk, etc. To learn about this read our
installation HOWTO at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

Even though this HOWTO is not yet updated for version 8.0 of Red Hat,
it's quite accurate about the process. The one difference, and it's a
big difference, is that you can now skip all that stuff about
downloading and preparing media, if you don't want to bother with that
process, by simply buying an official Red Hat 8.0 set of disks.


Glenn Ervin writes:
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
>
> I need some help getting started.
>
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup. I have 
> a DOS partition dedicated just for linux. I have a R/W CD-ROM and a 
> zip disk which I was hoping to use for installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering
if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such
as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens &
dozens
of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for 
> whichever package I go with as one file.
>
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one 
> of
the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or 
> from
a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
which
> is what debian seems to offer.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

--

Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* Re: trying to get started.
       ` John Lee
@        ` Glenn Ervin
           ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Thanks John.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Lee" <computersandme@NC.RR.COM>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: trying to get started.


IT IS SAYING ISO, NOT ISA.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn Ervin
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 11:57 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


Hi Janina,
I am glad you mentioned that ISA means an image of a CD, as I had looked
around for an image, and I saw the ISA downloads, but I did not know
what it meant.  To me ISA is an old type of expansion slot, but I knew
that this could not be what it was meaning. I noticed in the debian area
there was a couple of packages of isa downloads.  How does one decide
which one to download?  I suppose you need to just check out what
utilities are on that particular package,, or is virtually every program
created for that version of linux on every CD image?

I guess another part of my original question referred to the fact that I
am not worried about disk space, and linux, on my system,  will have 2
different DOS partitions to work with, I can afford to use a version of
linux which relies little on floppy disks; for the install.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


If you will read the archive of this list, or really any Linux list,
you'll soon discover that the question of what distribution to choose is
really a personal choice. It cannot really be said that this or that
distribution is more accessible, or friendlier to users of Speakup. It
comes down to personal choice and style, as I said.

So, in the expectation that others will speak up for other
distributions, let me advise you that installing Red Hat 8.0 is one very
good option. If you get a Red Hat 8.0 boxed set at your local computer
store, or from any number of sources on the net, you'll have all you
need to install with speech, and end up with a speaking installation.
Just be sure it's Red Hat 8.0, and not some lower number. You can, of
course, also just download the ISO images and create your own CD
ROMs--or install from hard disk, etc. To learn about this read our
installation HOWTO at:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html

Even though this HOWTO is not yet updated for version 8.0 of Red Hat,
it's quite accurate about the process. The one difference, and it's a
big difference, is that you can now skip all that stuff about
downloading and preparing media, if you don't want to bother with that
process, by simply buying an official Red Hat 8.0 set of disks.


Glenn Ervin writes:
> From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
>
> I need some help getting started.
>
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup. I have 
> a DOS partition dedicated just for linux. I have a R/W CD-ROM and a 
> zip disk which I was hoping to use for installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering
if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such
as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens &
dozens
of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for 
> whichever package I go with as one file.
>
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one 
> of
the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or 
> from
a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
which
> is what debian seems to offer.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

--

Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* Re: trying to get started.
     ` Glenn Ervin
       ` John Lee
@      ` Janina Sajka
       ` Bear in SFO
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Glenn Ervin writes:
> 
> To me ISA is an old type of expansion slot,

Check the spelling. ISA and ISO are not the same. Please be careful of such details, or you'll have more trouble than
you need getting used to the differences between Linux and the DOS/Windows environment you seem to know.

> I guess another part of my original question referred to the fact that I am
> not worried about disk space, and linux, on my system,  will have 2
> different DOS partitions to work with,

You'll need approximately 4.7 gB to install everything included with Red Hat 8.0, which is recommended if you have the
space.

>  I can afford to use a version of
> linux which relies little on floppy disks; for the install.
> 

No distribution requires you to use floppies.

				Janina



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* Re: trying to get started.
         ` Glenn Ervin
@          ` William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi all,

     I'd like to ask a favor especially of John and Glenn, but really to 
whom 
ever it applies.  Would you folks mind setting your email client to 
put a greater-than sign (>) at the left margin of the text that you quote?  
That way, those of us wishing to skip quoted text can do so and get on 
with the job of reading the new material.  This applies only to quoted 
text.  If a message is forwarded, then it shouldn't have the quoting 
symbol, unless of course, it has quoted material within it.

          Thanks.
-- 
          Bill in Denver


On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Glenn Ervin wrote:

> Thanks John.



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* Re: trying to get started.
     ` Glenn Ervin
       ` John Lee
       ` Janina Sajka
@      ` Bear in SFO
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bear in SFO @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

First, it is ISO not ISA - it refers to the standard of the CD image (ISO 
stands for the International Standard Organization and they are in 
Switzerland somewhere)

Secondly, why are you using a 'DOS" partition for installing linux?  You 
will need, say for RH8.0, about 4.5G of disk space, and depending on how 
much real RAM you have, space for swap file (or page file in Windows term)

The last I looked Debian had a 1 CD image for network install or a 7 CD 
complete install set - now which one to download is of course up to you...

At 10:56 AM 10/27/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Janina,
>I am glad you mentioned that ISA means an image of a CD, as I had looked
>around for an image, and I saw the ISA downloads, but I did not know what it
>meant.  To me ISA is an old type of expansion slot, but I knew that this
>could not be what it was meaning.
>I noticed in the debian area there was a couple of packages of isa
>downloads.  How does one decide which one to download?  I suppose you need
>to just check out what utilities are on that particular package,, or is
>virtually every program created for that version of linux on every CD image?
>
>I guess another part of my original question referred to the fact that I am
>not worried about disk space, and linux, on my system,  will have 2
>different DOS partitions to work with, I can afford to use a version of
>linux which relies little on floppy disks; for the install.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:46 AM
>Subject: Re: trying to get started.
>
>
>If you will read the archive of this list, or really any Linux list, you'll
>soon discover that the question of what
>distribution to choose is really a personal choice. It cannot really be said
>that this or that distribution is more
>accessible, or friendlier to users of Speakup. It comes down to personal
>choice and style, as I said.
>
>So, in the expectation that others will speak up for other distributions,
>let me advise you that installing Red Hat 8.0
>is one very good option. If you get a Red Hat 8.0 boxed set at your local
>computer store, or from any number of sources
>on the net, you'll have all you need to install with speech, and end up with
>a speaking installation. Just be sure it's
>Red Hat 8.0, and not some lower number. You can, of course, also just
>download the ISO images and create your own CD
>ROMs--or install from hard disk, etc. To learn about this read our
>installation HOWTO at:
>
>http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
>Even though this HOWTO is not yet updated for version 8.0 of Red Hat, it's
>quite accurate about the process. The one
>difference, and it's a big difference, is that you can now skip all that
>stuff about downloading and preparing media, if
>you don't want to bother with that process, by simply buying an official Red
>Hat 8.0 set of disks.
>
>
>Glenn Ervin writes:
> > From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
> >
> > I need some help getting started.
> >
> > I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
> > I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
> > I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
> > installation.
> > I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
> > there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
> > debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens
>of
> > files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
> > package I go with as one file.
> >
> > Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of
>the
> > three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from
>a
> > CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
>which
> > is what debian seems to offer.
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Live long and prosper",
> > O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> > N0YJV
> > Northeast Nebraska
> > e-mail:
> > glennervin@cableone.net
> > The above address can also be found on MSM.
> > or my work e-mail:
> > gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>--
>
>Janina Sajka, Director
>Technology Research and Development
>Governmental Relations Group
>American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
>Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup



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* Re: trying to get started.
   trying to get started Glenn Ervin
   ` Janina Sajka
@  ` erik burggraaf
     ` Glenn Ervin
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: erik burggraaf @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi friend, I'd just like to put my speak in for slackware if you are still
at this stage.
I chose it for a few reasons.  First off, the documentation for slackware
was far and away the best.  This is not to say that docs for other software
weren't helpfull at all.  For me, it was more a matter of detail.  Devian
was so small, I didn't feel confident that I could install it on the basis
of the info I had.  Redhat was so huge, it was overwelming.  Slackware was
straight forward and to the point.  The writer and I seem to think alike in
terms of what info is important and how to deliver something like a linux
install.
I also reviewed documentation on the slackware site, and it seemed to carry
on in the vein I was finding most comfortable, so I ran with it.
Another thing was size.  Slackware was only one iso image.  That included
x-windows, 3 shells, and another gui interface, and more goodies than I felt
I could handle right away.  A full install of slack is about 2 gb, though of
course, we don't need either of the gui environments, so we save about a gig
there.
Because I could not configure my bios by myself to boot the cd-rom, I relied
on 6 floppy disks to get me started.  Creating the disks was a bit of a
pain, because I went about it half-assed, but if you use brand new,
preformatted disks, and label them properly as they come out of the imager,
you'll be all set in no time.
Well, I did the install 4 or 5 times in one weekend trying a number of
different combinations and so on, so it's one area where I'm properly
qualified to contribute.  If there's anything I can do to help get you up
and running, feel free to yell and I'll do what I can.
Cheers,
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: trying to get started.


> I need some help getting started.
>
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
> I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
> I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
> installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens
of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
> package I go with as one file.
>
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of
the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from
a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
which
> is what debian seems to offer.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>


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* Re: trying to get started.
   ` erik burggraaf
@    ` Glenn Ervin
       ` dashielljt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi Erik,
Thank You, this is the kind of input and help I have been looking for.
I'll be in touch.

----- Original Message -----
From: "erik burggraaf" <erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: trying to get started.


Hi friend, I'd just like to put my speak in for slackware if you are still
at this stage.
I chose it for a few reasons.  First off, the documentation for slackware
was far and away the best.  This is not to say that docs for other software
weren't helpfull at all.  For me, it was more a matter of detail.  Devian
was so small, I didn't feel confident that I could install it on the basis
of the info I had.  Redhat was so huge, it was overwelming.  Slackware was
straight forward and to the point.  The writer and I seem to think alike in
terms of what info is important and how to deliver something like a linux
install.
I also reviewed documentation on the slackware site, and it seemed to carry
on in the vein I was finding most comfortable, so I ran with it.
Another thing was size.  Slackware was only one iso image.  That included
x-windows, 3 shells, and another gui interface, and more goodies than I felt
I could handle right away.  A full install of slack is about 2 gb, though of
course, we don't need either of the gui environments, so we save about a gig
there.
Because I could not configure my bios by myself to boot the cd-rom, I relied
on 6 floppy disks to get me started.  Creating the disks was a bit of a
pain, because I went about it half-assed, but if you use brand new,
preformatted disks, and label them properly as they come out of the imager,
you'll be all set in no time.
Well, I did the install 4 or 5 times in one weekend trying a number of
different combinations and so on, so it's one area where I'm properly
qualified to contribute.  If there's anything I can do to help get you up
and running, feel free to yell and I'll do what I can.
Cheers,
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Ervin" <glennervin@cableone.net>
To: "linux - speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: trying to get started.


> I need some help getting started.
>
> I am trying to get started with installing linux with speakup.
> I have a DOS partition dedicated just for linux.
> I have a R/W CD-ROM and a zip disk which I was hoping to use for
> installation.
> I have looked over the various packages of linux, and I am wondering if
> there is a way to just download any & all of one brand of linux, such as
> debian, or one of the other two mentioned.  I have found dozens & dozens
of
> files to download, and I would just like to get all of them, for whichever
> package I go with as one file.
>
> Another thing I am hoping someone can help with, is the choice of one of
the
> three brands of linux.  I would prefer to install from a zip disk or from
a
> CD.  I am not too enthused about installing from a bunch of floppies,
which
> is what debian seems to offer.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
>
>
> "Live long and prosper",
> O. Glenn Ervin (Lenny)
> N0YJV
> Northeast Nebraska
> e-mail:
> glennervin@cableone.net
> The above address can also be found on MSM.
> or my work e-mail:
> gErvin@ncbvi.state.ne.us
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>


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* Re: trying to get started.
     ` Glenn Ervin
@      ` dashielljt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: dashielljt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

What have you got for a backup device?  A backup if you can do it can keep
your system alive.  For myself I've got an ide zip drive and a tape drive
trakker 450 that hangs on the parallel port.  I'll be using the zip drive
until I can get the tape drive going since the zip drive does work.

Jude <dashielljt@gmpexpress.net>




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