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* RE: Oh how i wish
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Krister Ekstrom
   ` Glenn Ervin at home
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Ok, Krister, it seems like you are still getting the run-around here.
All Chuck, Toby and Luke could say is go ahead and ask. But to give them
the benefit of the doubt, maybe they did not see your questions in your
note. If they did however, it is answers like they gave that only lead
to unnecessary stress and confusion.

So for my take on your note!
Question 1: How do I know how many serial ports I actually have on my
computer?
Answer: The simplest answer is to do a physical look at the box and
count how many serial ports you have. The problem with this simple
answer is that, although the ports may physically be there, they are not
necessarily activated. This is something that is usually handled in the
bios settings. Once the port is turned on in the bios, you can then see
it from within your operating system. Remember that ports start counting
from 0 in Linux, and not 1 as is the norm in other operating systems.
So, ttyS0 is the same as com1 ttyS1 is the same as com2, ..., in the
other operating systems world.

Question 2: How do I set up additional email accounts? 
Answer: Note, that in my restating of your question, I did not include
the distribution. This is because I believe that my answer will be
distribution independent. The simplest way to create additional email
accounts is to add a new user to the system for each email account you
wish to have. So for example, you may already have an email account
named Krister, and want to add one called junkmail. To do this, just add
the user junkmail to your system and you are off to the races. In
RedHat, you would do something like:
usradd junkmail 
Make sure to set a password for the junkmail account and the rest is
history as they say.

So, I hope that this helps, and is note to confusing. At least I think
that I answered your initial questions instead of doing nothing more
then make you send another message in increasing frustration.

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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* Re: Oh how i wish
   Oh how i wish Dawes, Stephen
@  ` Krister Ekstrom
     ` Thomas Stivers
   ` Glenn Ervin at home
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Krister Ekstrom @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dawes, Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

On 23 Oct 2003 07:41:11  (my local time 15:41:11), you typed::
DS> The simplest way to create additional email
DS> accounts is to add a new user to the system for each email account you
DS> wish to have. So for example, you may already have an email account
DS> named Krister, and want to add one called junkmail. To do this, just add
DS> the user junkmail to your system and you are off to the races.

Umm, this is good enough, but here's the little problem i face at this
stage: My address now is crisekstrom@bredband.net. I want to use this
address since i don't yet have my own domain. So how do i do to
choose my isp instead of "localdomain"? and can i set up more accounts
with other domains like thecount@myrealbox.com or such? I'm planning
to use Mutt as my email client, it looks neat.

- --
/Krister
crisekstrom@bredband.net
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* Re: Oh how i wish
   ` Krister Ekstrom
@    ` Thomas Stivers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup List

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On 10/23/03  4:30 PM +0200, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
> Umm, this is good enough, but here's the little problem i face at this
> stage: My address now is crisekstrom@bredband.net. I want to use this
> address since i don't yet have my own domain. So how do i do to
> choose my isp instead of "localdomain"? and can i set up more accounts
> with other domains like thecount@myrealbox.com or such? I'm planning
> to use Mutt as my email client, it looks neat.

It sounds like you want to fetch your mail from a pop3 or imap mail
server, which you can do with fetchmail. If i recall correctly you are
using Redhat, so I can't tell you where to find fetchmail packages, but
here is an example of the .fetchmailrc configuration file you will need

poll put.your.server.here with proto pop3
user your.remote.user.name there is your.local.user.name here
passwd "yourpassword"

You will of course want to change it to the correct values. You can have several sets of lines like the previous ones for different accounts and if you use the same local user name they will all come to your normal mailbox.

Then you can run fetchmail when you want to get your mail from the
server or you could add a line like "set daemon 300" at the top of
.fetchmailrc to have it keep checking your mail in the background every
5 minutes.

Good choice with mutt. While it is (or can be) a bear to configure it is IMHO (as the authors say) far less sucky than other mail programs. Good luck and try not to get too frustrated with the steep learning curve, before you know it all this stuf just becomes second nature.

- -- 
Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
carefully than others.
Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD
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* Re: Oh how i wish
   Oh how i wish Dawes, Stephen
   ` Krister Ekstrom
@  ` Glenn Ervin at home
     ` Toby Fisher
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin at home @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Don't virtually all computers have 4 com ports, usually 2 external and 2
internal.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: Oh how i wish


Ok, Krister, it seems like you are still getting the run-around here.
All Chuck, Toby and Luke could say is go ahead and ask. But to give them
the benefit of the doubt, maybe they did not see your questions in your
note. If they did however, it is answers like they gave that only lead
to unnecessary stress and confusion.

So for my take on your note!
Question 1: How do I know how many serial ports I actually have on my
computer?
Answer: The simplest answer is to do a physical look at the box and
count how many serial ports you have. The problem with this simple
answer is that, although the ports may physically be there, they are not
necessarily activated. This is something that is usually handled in the
bios settings. Once the port is turned on in the bios, you can then see
it from within your operating system. Remember that ports start counting
from 0 in Linux, and not 1 as is the norm in other operating systems.
So, ttyS0 is the same as com1 ttyS1 is the same as com2, ..., in the
other operating systems world.

Question 2: How do I set up additional email accounts?
Answer: Note, that in my restating of your question, I did not include
the distribution. This is because I believe that my answer will be
distribution independent. The simplest way to create additional email
accounts is to add a new user to the system for each email account you
wish to have. So for example, you may already have an email account
named Krister, and want to add one called junkmail. To do this, just add
the user junkmail to your system and you are off to the races. In
RedHat, you would do something like:
usradd junkmail
Make sure to set a password for the junkmail account and the rest is
history as they say.

So, I hope that this helps, and is note to confusing. At least I think
that I answered your initial questions instead of doing nothing more
then make you send another message in increasing frustration.

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



NOTICE::
This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity
named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally
privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person
responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended
recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of
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prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify
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or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks
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* Re: Oh how i wish
   ` Glenn Ervin at home
@    ` Toby Fisher
       ` Glenn Ervin at home
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Toby Fisher @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Glenn Ervin at home wrote:

> Don't virtually all computers have 4 com ports, usually 2 external and 2
> internal.

Um, are you thinjking of usb ports?

Com ports are going out of fashion now, machines are being pushed out with 
none at all, arg!!!

Even in the old days usually computers had 2 com ports, you had to install 
another controller to get the extra ones.

HTH

-- 
Toby Fisher	Email: toby@tjfisher.co.uk
Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272	Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
ICQ: #61744808
   Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
   See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
 


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* Re: Oh how i wish
     ` Toby Fisher
@      ` Glenn Ervin at home
         ` Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin at home @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi Toby,
No, I mean Com Ports, or otherwise called, serial ports.
Although there may only be 1 or two on the outside, computers also have
internal com ports.
My P4 1.7 system with no ISA slots (unfortunately), has com1 & com2
external, and com3 and com4 internal, or TTY 0 through 3.
I haven't noticed if Linux identifies the 2 internal serial ports or not,
yet.
Glenn.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby@tjfisher.co.uk>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Oh how i wish


On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Glenn Ervin at home wrote:

> Don't virtually all computers have 4 com ports, usually 2 external and 2
> internal.

Um, are you thinjking of usb ports?

Com ports are going out of fashion now, machines are being pushed out with
none at all, arg!!!

Even in the old days usually computers had 2 com ports, you had to install
another controller to get the extra ones.

HTH

-- 
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Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
ICQ: #61744808
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   See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html


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* Re: Oh how i wish
       ` Glenn Ervin at home
@        ` Gregory Nowak
           ` Glenn Ervin at home
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hmmm, how do you interface with an internal port?

Greg


	On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 08:19:45PM -0500, Glenn Ervin at home wrote:
> Hi Toby,
> No, I mean Com Ports, or otherwise called, serial ports.
> Although there may only be 1 or two on the outside, computers also have
> internal com ports.
> My P4 1.7 system with no ISA slots (unfortunately), has com1 & com2
> external, and com3 and com4 internal, or TTY 0 through 3.
> I haven't noticed if Linux identifies the 2 internal serial ports or not,
> yet.
> Glenn.
> 
> ----- 
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* Re: Oh how i wish
         ` Gregory Nowak
@          ` Glenn Ervin at home
             ` Adam Myrow
             ` Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Ervin at home @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Modems do.
In windows,
My modem is on com 3
Internal devices use the internal ports.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Oh how i wish


Hmmm, how do you interface with an internal port?

Greg


On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 08:19:45PM -0500, Glenn Ervin at home wrote:
> Hi Toby,
> No, I mean Com Ports, or otherwise called, serial ports.
> Although there may only be 1 or two on the outside, computers also have
> internal com ports.
> My P4 1.7 system with no ISA slots (unfortunately), has com1 & com2
> external, and com3 and com4 internal, or TTY 0 through 3.
> I haven't noticed if Linux identifies the 2 internal serial ports or not,
> yet.
> Glenn.
> 
> ----- 
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* Re: Oh how i wish
           ` Glenn Ervin at home
@            ` Adam Myrow
             ` Gregory Nowak
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Adam Myrow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

No, modems are combined com ports and modems.  There are no internal com
ports.  You add a hardware modem, it emulates a com port.  Software modems
also emulate a com port for compatibility with other software.



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* Re: Oh how i wish
           ` Glenn Ervin at home
             ` Adam Myrow
@            ` Gregory Nowak
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Oh, ok, I see what you're talking about. I wouldn't necessarily go
calling those internal ports though, since if you for example put in a
pci serial board, it would be called ttyS2/com3, but would in actuality
be a physical external port. I think virtual ports, or reserved port
names would be more appropriate.

Greg


On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 09:22:09PM -0500, Glenn Ervin at home wrote:
> Modems do.
> In windows,
> My modem is on com 3
> Internal devices use the internal ports.
> 

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* RE: Oh how i wish
   Dawes, Stephen
@  ` Sina Bahram
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Sina Bahram @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Wow that's wonderfu. Ok I will go do that as soon as possible. Thanks
again for the information, I really appreciate it.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Dawes, Stephen
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:12 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Oh how i wish


Sina,
Contact bookshare for more information. 'and apparently you do not need
a paid subscription to bookshare for access to this collection, as part
of an agreement with O'Riley.


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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* RE: Oh how i wish
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Sina Bahram
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Sina,
Contact bookshare for more information. 'and apparently you do not need
a paid subscription to bookshare for access to this collection, as part
of an agreement with O'Riley.


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



NOTICE::
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* Re: Oh how i wish
     ` Toby Fisher
@      ` Luke Davis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Luke Davis @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Toby Fisher wrote:

> Rather than moaning about the response to potentially off-topic questions
> to this list, why not direct him to one of the newby lists that *do* exist
> somewhere, I mean, they have to, there are just too many Linux newbies for
> them not to.  I'd sugbgest that there might be a Redhat-newbies list
> somewhere, and I'm sure that a search on linux.org should yield something.

Geeze: you can't even give an attempt at an encouraging answer here,
without being told you are moaning.  I really don't get that.

As far as I know, this list does welcome newbies, of all shapes and sizes,
and instead of telling the guy to go fly a kite, I suggested that he go
ahead and ask his questions.  If his questions get him answers that lead
him to other lists, than so be it.

In effect, I was trying to stop his preemptive "moaning", as you put it,
and instead I get told that this is what I am doing.

Strange indeed.

I doubt even Janina can fault my original attempt in this one.

Luke


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* RE: Oh how i wish
   Dawes, Stephen
@  ` Sina Bahram
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Sina Bahram @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Where could I find out more about the free books?

Thanks,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Dawes, Stephen
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:51 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Oh how i wish


If I am understanding your question correctly, fetchmail will get your
mail for you from wherever you tell it to get the mail from.
Additionally, when the mail comes into the system through fetchmail, you
can tell it who mail@myisp.com is delivered to locally,
mymail@mydomain.net. Outgoing mail is a little different, and all I do,
is point my outgoing mail to my isp and let them handle it for me.

HTH.

BTW: If you would like Linux books in ASCII format, oriley books makes
there entire collection available to the blind community free of charge.
 

Stephen Dawes  <B.A., B.Sc.>
Management Systems Analyst
The City of Calgary                   |  Phone: (403) 268-5527
Information & Technology #8300        |  Fax:   (403) 268-6423
   PO Box 2100 Postal Station M.      |  Email: Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca
   Calgary, Alberta, Canada. T2P 2M5  |  Web:  http://www.calgary.ca





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intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution,
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us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca 
	[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of 
	Krister Ekstrom
	Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 08:30 AM
	To: Dawes, Stephen
	Subject: Re: Oh how i wish
	
	
	-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
	Hash: RIPEMD160
	
	Hi Stephen,
	
	On 23 Oct 2003 07:41:11  (my local time 15:41:11), you typed::
	DS> The simplest way to create additional email
	DS> accounts is to add a new user to the system for 
	each email account 
	DS> you wish to have. So for example, you may already 
	have an email 
	DS> account named Krister, and want to add one called 
	junkmail. To do 
	DS> this, just add the user junkmail to your system and 
	you are off to 
	DS> the races.
	
	Umm, this is good enough, but here's the little problem 
	i face at this
	stage: My address now is crisekstrom@bredband.net. I 
	want to use this address since i don't yet have my own 
	domain. So how do i do to choose my isp instead of 
	"localdomain"? and can i set up more accounts with 
	other domains like thecount@myrealbox.com or such? I'm 
	planning to use Mutt as my email client, it looks neat.
	
	- --
	/Krister
	crisekstrom@bredband.net
	 Get pgp keys here: 
	mailto:crisekstrom@bredband.net?	subject=get_pgp_keys
	
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* RE: Oh how i wish
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Sina Bahram
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

If I am understanding your question correctly, fetchmail will get your
mail for you from wherever you tell it to get the mail from.
Additionally, when the mail comes into the system through fetchmail, you
can tell it who mail@myisp.com is delivered to locally,
mymail@mydomain.net. Outgoing mail is a little different, and all I do,
is point my outgoing mail to my isp and let them handle it for me.

HTH.

BTW: If you would like Linux books in ASCII format, oriley books makes
there entire collection available to the blind community free of charge.
 

Stephen Dawes  <B.A., B.Sc.>
Management Systems Analyst
The City of Calgary                   |  Phone: (403) 268-5527
Information & Technology #8300        |  Fax:   (403) 268-6423
   PO Box 2100 Postal Station M.      |  Email: Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca
   Calgary, Alberta, Canada. T2P 2M5  |  Web:  http://www.calgary.ca





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	-----Original Message-----
	From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca 
	[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of 
	Krister Ekstrom
	Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 08:30 AM
	To: Dawes, Stephen
	Subject: Re: Oh how i wish
	
	
	-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
	Hash: RIPEMD160
	
	Hi Stephen,
	
	On 23 Oct 2003 07:41:11  (my local time 15:41:11), you typed::
	DS> The simplest way to create additional email
	DS> accounts is to add a new user to the system for 
	each email account 
	DS> you wish to have. So for example, you may already 
	have an email 
	DS> account named Krister, and want to add one called 
	junkmail. To do 
	DS> this, just add the user junkmail to your system and 
	you are off to 
	DS> the races.
	
	Umm, this is good enough, but here's the little problem 
	i face at this
	stage: My address now is crisekstrom@bredband.net. I 
	want to use this address since i don't yet have my own 
	domain. So how do i do to choose my isp instead of 
	"localdomain"? and can i set up more accounts with 
	other domains like thecount@myrealbox.com or such? I'm 
	planning to use Mutt as my email client, it looks neat.
	
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* Re: Oh how i wish
   Krister Ekstrom
   ` Luke Davis
   ` Chuck Hallenbeck
@  ` Allan Shaw
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Allan Shaw @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Krister,

... ask your questions!

As someone who is in the same boat as yourself and new to this linux 
environment I have to concur with the other advice you've received.  Just 
remember, there will always be those with more experience than yourself, 
but there still learning and have as much to learn as your.

Good luck, and hope to see some of your questions here on the list.

At 03:21 10/23/03, you wrote:
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>Hi  speakup,
>
>   How i wish there was a mailing list or forum or what have you, where
>   total newbies like me could ask questions like "how do i figure out
>   how many serial ports i actually have" and "how do i set up one or
>   more mail accounts in RedHat or other distros" without feeling like
>   an idiot for wasting more experienced users band width with simple
>   questions like i do at the moment. Yes sure enough i could rTFM and
>   i try to do that as much as i can, but sometimes i'm not even sure
>   what FM to R, there are so many of them.
>   Sorry for my ranting, it's just that right now i feel somewhat
>   frustrated.
>
>
>- --
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* Re: Oh how i wish
   Krister Ekstrom
   ` Luke Davis
@  ` Chuck Hallenbeck
   ` Allan Shaw
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Chuck Hallenbeck @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Krister,

By all means ask here! Lots of the so-called experts can also
benefit from airing some simple questions once in a while. I have
been amazed more than once when a simple question yielded some
obvious answers I would never have thought of in a hundred years.
Go for it!!!

Chuck

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* Re: Oh how i wish
   ` Luke Davis
@    ` Toby Fisher
       ` Luke Davis
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Toby Fisher @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Luke Davis wrote:

> Do ask.
> 
> Some of us will not answer. Some of us will answer, trying to help. And
> some will tell you to RTFM.  Of those: some will be pains in the ass about
> it, just telling you to RTFM, with no real clarification.  Others,
> however, after actually reading your question, will tell you what FM to R.
> 
> Over all, though, even if no users anywhere answer, it can not hurt to
> ask, and the potential that you will get some kind of answer, actually
> outways the potential that you will be ignored.

Luke,

Rather than moaning about the response to potentially off-topic questions 
to this list, why not direct him to one of the newby lists that *do* exist 
somewhere, I mean, they have to, there are just too many Linux newbies for 
them not to.  I'd sugbgest that there might be a Redhat-newbies list 
somewhere, and I'm sure that a search on linux.org should yield something.

Cheers.

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* Re: Oh how i wish
   Krister Ekstrom
@  ` Luke Davis
     ` Toby Fisher
   ` Chuck Hallenbeck
   ` Allan Shaw
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Luke Davis @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Do ask.

Some of us will not answer. Some of us will answer, trying to help. And
some will tell you to RTFM.  Of those: some will be pains in the ass about
it, just telling you to RTFM, with no real clarification.  Others,
however, after actually reading your question, will tell you what FM to R.

Over all, though, even if no users anywhere answer, it can not hurt to
ask, and the potential that you will get some kind of answer, actually
outways the potential that you will be ignored.

Regards,

Luke
 On Thu, 23 Oct 2003,
Krister Ekstrom wrote:

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> Hi  speakup,
>
>   How i wish there was a mailing list or forum or what have you, where
>   total newbies like me could ask questions like "how do i figure out
>   how many serial ports i actually have" and "how do i set up one or
>   more mail accounts in RedHat or other distros" without feeling like
>   an idiot for wasting more experienced users band width with simple
>   questions like i do at the moment. Yes sure enough i could rTFM and
>   i try to do that as much as i can, but sometimes i'm not even sure
>   what FM to R, there are so many of them.
>   Sorry for my ranting, it's just that right now i feel somewhat
>   frustrated.
>
>
> - --
> /Krister
>                            mailto:crisekstrom@bredband.net
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* Oh how i wish
@  Krister Ekstrom
   ` Luke Davis
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Krister Ekstrom @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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Hi  speakup,

  How i wish there was a mailing list or forum or what have you, where
  total newbies like me could ask questions like "how do i figure out
  how many serial ports i actually have" and "how do i set up one or
  more mail accounts in RedHat or other distros" without feeling like
  an idiot for wasting more experienced users band width with simple
  questions like i do at the moment. Yes sure enough i could rTFM and
  i try to do that as much as i can, but sometimes i'm not even sure
  what FM to R, there are so many of them.
  Sorry for my ranting, it's just that right now i feel somewhat
  frustrated.


- --
/Krister
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