Installing debian

Installing debian

[Rob]

Hi all, 

I'm looking at installing debian for the first time.  I was thinking of using GRML and its debootstrap script, but as I understand it, you are left without a speakup modified kernel.  I suppose installing GRML directly to the HD would work, but I don't think debian unstable is something I want to be dealing with at this time. 

Is there a better way to install debian that has/ensures a speakup modified kernel? 

Thanks in advance, 

-- Rob

Re: Installing debian

[Frank Carmickle]

Hi Rob

On Thu, Sep 27, Rob wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I'm looking at installing debian for the first time.  I was thinking of using GRML and its debootstrap script, but as I understand it, you are left without a speakup modified kernel.  I suppose installing GRML directly to the HD would work, but I don't think debian unstable is something I want to be dealing with at this time. 
> 
> Is there a better way to install debian that has/ensures a speakup modified kernel? 

Get shanes speakupized debian network install iso from http://people.debian.org/~shane

If you have any problems just give a holler.  

--Frank

Telnet failed!

[Scott Ford]

Hi Yall,
	I attempted to do a telnet install with Speakup modified fedora last
night.  I however could not make it work, every time that I would telnet to
the ip address the the computer that I was attempting the install on would
reboot!  I atempteed to use the windows XP client, and teraterm pro.  I also
attempted a wife synth install and that failed also.  
Scott

Re: Telnet failed!

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hmmm, a wife synth? How much does one of those cost (grin)?

A machine rebooting when you attempt telneting to it is one I've never
heard of before. I assume your wife was looking at the screen at the
time the machine rebooted, if that's so, then it would help to know
what she saw. In fact, it would probably be even more helpful to know
what she saw from the time the machine was started, to the time it
rebooted.

Greg


On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:19:46AM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
> Hi Yall,
> 	I attempted to do a telnet install with Speakup modified fedora last
> night.  I however could not make it work, every time that I would telnet to
> the ip address the the computer that I was attempting the install on would
> reboot!  I atempteed to use the windows XP client, and teraterm pro.  I also
> attempted a wife synth install and that failed also.  
> Scott
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Telnet failed!

[Littlefield, Tyler]

scott,
I had this problem with a computer I got.
The mother board was scrued up, and any time you'd ssh in, it'd just die. or 
reboot if I was lucky.
Hope that's not your case, but hth anyway,
Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield.
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To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Telnet failed!


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> Hmmm, a wife synth? How much does one of those cost (grin)?
>
> A machine rebooting when you attempt telneting to it is one I've never
> heard of before. I assume your wife was looking at the screen at the
> time the machine rebooted, if that's so, then it would help to know
> what she saw. In fact, it would probably be even more helpful to know
> what she saw from the time the machine was started, to the time it
> rebooted.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:19:46AM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
>>
>> Hi Yall,
>> I attempted to do a telnet install with Speakup modified fedora last
>> night.  I however could not make it work, every time that I would telnet 
>> to
>> the ip address the the computer that I was attempting the install on 
>> would
>> reboot!  I atempteed to use the windows XP client, and teraterm pro.  I 
>> also
>> attempted a wife synth install and that failed also.
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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hardware synths?

[Scott Ford]

Hi yall,
	Would anyone know where I could pick up a hardware synth cheap?  I
actually do have a serial port on my new system.
Scott

RE: Telnet failed!

[Scott Ford]

Greg,
	Wife synths are a very costly way to go. Serfisive to say I am still
paying, not to mention they can be really finicky at times.  I would not
trader her for the world though.  
Scott

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Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 5:05 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Telnet failed!

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Hmmm, a wife synth? How much does one of those cost (grin)?

A machine rebooting when you attempt telneting to it is one I've never
heard of before. I assume your wife was looking at the screen at the
time the machine rebooted, if that's so, then it would help to know
what she saw. In fact, it would probably be even more helpful to know
what she saw from the time the machine was started, to the time it
rebooted.

Greg


On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:19:46AM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
> Hi Yall,
> 	I attempted to do a telnet install with Speakup modified fedora last
> night.  I however could not make it work, every time that I would telnet
to
> the ip address the the computer that I was attempting the install on would
> reboot!  I atempteed to use the windows XP client, and teraterm pro.  I
also
> attempted a wife synth install and that failed also.  
> Scott
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

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Re: hardware synths?

[Janina Sajka]

I think your choices are between Ebay and Access Solutions at:

http://axsol.com

Janina

Scott Ford writes:
> Hi yall,
> 	Would anyone know where I could pick up a hardware synth cheap?  I
> actually do have a serial port on my new system.
> Scott
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Telnet failed!

[John Heim]

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Subject: Re: Telnet failed!


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> Hmmm, a wife synth? How much does one of those cost (grin)?


Well, they have other advantages over a hardware synth but if you're 
concerned primarily about cost, forget it. You can't afford one.

RE: hardware synths?

[Scott Ford]

Janina,
	I just called and asked about the dectalk usb!!! The cost 695.00!
wow.  I think that it sounds really cool though.  Would you guys know if
they will ever develop drivers for the braillenote?  Thanks 
Scott

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Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:39 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: hardware synths?

I think your choices are between Ebay and Access Solutions at:

http://axsol.com

Janina

Scott Ford writes:
> Hi yall,
> 	Would anyone know where I could pick up a hardware synth cheap?  I
> actually do have a serial port on my new system.
> Scott
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: hardware synths?

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> Would you guys know if
> they will ever develop drivers for the braillenote?


Who do you mean by "they"? If you mean humanware, the most likely
answer as of now is no. If you mean Kirk, he might, provided he has a
unit to play with, and the time to play with it of course. If you mean
someone else out there, with the knowledge to do it, and a unit to
play with, then your guess is as good as mine.

Greg


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Re: hardware synths?

[Rynhardt P Kruger]

Hi,

Please correct me on this, but I heard from a friend with a braillenote 
that the braillenote can be used with an apollo driver. If so, you can 
use it with speakup's apollo driver.

Take care,
Rynhardt

On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> > Would you guys know if
> > they will ever develop drivers for the braillenote?
> 
> 
> Who do you mean by "they"? If you mean humanware, the most likely
> answer as of now is no. If you mean Kirk, he might, provided he has a
> unit to play with, and the time to play with it of course. If you mean
> someone else out there, with the knowledge to do it, and a unit to
> play with, then your guess is as good as mine.
> 
> Greg
> 
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Re: hardware synths?

[Janina Sajka]

Would be cool. Someone should try it, I suppose.

Janina

Rynhardt P Kruger writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Please correct me on this, but I heard from a friend with a braillenote 
> that the braillenote can be used with an apollo driver. If so, you can 
> use it with speakup's apollo driver.
> 
> Take care,
> Rynhardt
> 
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> > > Would you guys know if
> > > they will ever develop drivers for the braillenote?
> > 
> > 
> > Who do you mean by "they"? If you mean humanware, the most likely
> > answer as of now is no. If you mean Kirk, he might, provided he has a
> > unit to play with, and the time to play with it of course. If you mean
> > someone else out there, with the knowledge to do it, and a unit to
> > play with, then your guess is as good as mine.
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
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RE: hardware synths?

[Scott Ford]

Hi yall,
	I tryed to do it and failed.  I can only get the braillenote to say
at, if I arrow right and hit enter at the first window that pops up.  later
Scott


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On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:09 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: hardware synths?

Would be cool. Someone should try it, I suppose.

Janina

Rynhardt P Kruger writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Please correct me on this, but I heard from a friend with a braillenote 
> that the braillenote can be used with an apollo driver. If so, you can 
> use it with speakup's apollo driver.
> 
> Take care,
> Rynhardt
> 
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 01:08:09PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
> > > Would you guys know if
> > > they will ever develop drivers for the braillenote?
> > 
> > 
> > Who do you mean by "they"? If you mean humanware, the most likely
> > answer as of now is no. If you mean Kirk, he might, provided he has a
> > unit to play with, and the time to play with it of course. If you mean
> > someone else out there, with the knowledge to do it, and a unit to
> > play with, then your guess is as good as mine.
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > 
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