Speakup Install options?

Speakup Install options?

[Zachary Kline]

Hiya,
    Okay, I guess we've pretty much established that a PCI serial adapter won't work, contrary to what I heard from the hardware guy I talked to.  Hm.  What're the odds that my motherboard has a serial port inbuilt into it?  I've had this computer for a couple years.  Windows isn't saying anything about a COM port.  
    Aside from that, are there any known options for serial communication which have been tried out and work?  If so, what, and if not, what else can I try?
Thanks much,
Zack.

Re: Speakup Install options?

[Glenn Ervin]

Chances are that there is a serial port on your mother board, but sometimes 
the manufacturers don't put a connector from the serial port connector on 
the mother board to the back of the computer.
If this is indeed the case, it is also probably disabled in the BIOS.
So you will need a serial connector for the mother board, sometimes it is a 
round wire with a 9-pin serial jack  for the back of the computer, and a 
female plug for the mother board.  Sometimes it is not a round cable, but a 
narrow ribbon cable, like the one you use on the hard drive, but only about 
a half-inch wide.
You could contact the mother board manufacturer for the cable, or if it is a 
name-brand computer, maybe they can get the serial connector for you.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:26 AM
Subject: Speakup Install options?


Hiya,
    Okay, I guess we've pretty much established that a PCI serial adapter 
won't work, contrary to what I heard from the hardware guy I talked to.  Hm. 
What're the odds that my motherboard has a serial port inbuilt into it? 
I've had this computer for a couple years.  Windows isn't saying anything 
about a COM port.
    Aside from that, are there any known options for serial communication 
which have been tried out and work?  If so, what, and if not, what else can 
I try?
Thanks much,
Zack.
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Speakup Install options?

[John covici]

Maybe its disabled in the BIOS as well as being a header.

on Saturday 07/28/2007 Zachary Kline(Z_kline@hotmail.com) wrote
 > Hiya,
 >     Okay, I guess we've pretty much established that a PCI serial adapter won't work, contrary to what I heard from the hardware guy I talked to.  Hm.  What're the odds that my motherboard has a serial port inbuilt into it?  I've had this computer for a couple years.  Windows isn't saying anything about a COM port.  
 >     Aside from that, are there any known options for serial communication which have been tried out and work?  If so, what, and if not, what else can I try?
 > Thanks much,
 > Zack.
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 > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Speakup Install options?

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:26:23AM -0700, Zachary Kline wrote:
>     Aside from that, are there any known options for serial communication which have been tried out and work?  If so, what, and if not, what else can I try?

Well, if you still want to use a physical machine, you have a few options open to you, none of which require a
serial port. You can install gentoo via ssh, or fedora via telnet, and
setup software speech afterwords. You can install debian via
debootstrap, but this has room for error, even if you use grml's
grml-debootstrap. The install in this case should go ok, and you can
even install software speech after installing the base system, but if
software speech doesn't work after you boot into your new install, if
the log files don't shed light on the problem, and if you don't have a
sightling to read the screen to you, so you can figure out where
things are going wrong, you're pretty much screwed. I guess you're
also screwed if you want to install slackware, unless there's a way to
do it without a serial port/hardware synth that I don't know about.

If you have access to another machine with a serial port, then if you
want to install debian, slackware, or any other speakup-patched distro
for that matter, you could install on the second box, and then either
image the installed system, and move it over to the first system
without a serial port, or just take out the hd from the first system,
dump it into the second, install your distro, and then move it back
into the first box. This could also work with a vm, (I.E. install on
the vm with a serial port, setup software speech so it works in the
vm, image the installed system, restore the
image to the physical partition(s), and boot into your new system on
the physical box). Hth.

Greg


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Re: Speakup Install options?

[Doug Sutherland]

Most motherboards have serial ports built into a multiple IO chip
with serial, parallel, keyboard, and mouse ports. What you need
is the motherboard model number, with that it will be very easy
to find out exactly what you have.

  -- Doug

Re: Speakup Install options?

[Zachary Kline]

Hello,
    Hm.  I wish I knew better which model of computer my family bought for 
me, and all the component parts of it.  It's an HP Pavilion, but that 
doesn't tell me much of anything.
Thanks anyway.
All the best,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Sutherland" <doug@proficio.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Install options?


> Most motherboards have serial ports built into a multiple IO chip
> with serial, parallel, keyboard, and mouse ports. What you need
> is the motherboard model number, with that it will be very easy
> to find out exactly what you have.
>
>  -- Doug
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: Speakup Install options?

[Glenn Ervin]

Zack,
If you go to "My Computer" (Windows), on the desktop, and press alt + enter, 
and use the we cursor, or the Jaws cursor in JFW, you may find the model of 
Pavilion that you have.
Then call HP for the part.
Otherwise, if you google the Pavilion number, you will probably find the 
model of the mother board.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Install options?


Hello,
    Hm.  I wish I knew better which model of computer my family bought for
me, and all the component parts of it.  It's an HP Pavilion, but that
doesn't tell me much of anything.
Thanks anyway.
All the best,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Sutherland" <doug@proficio.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup Install options?


> Most motherboards have serial ports built into a multiple IO chip
> with serial, parallel, keyboard, and mouse ports. What you need
> is the motherboard model number, with that it will be very easy
> to find out exactly what you have.
>
>  -- Doug
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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